Could I blow my face off?

[TFL!]

check out you tube hybrid mod saftey - YouTube

 

[tj99959]

Well when I saw a man scratching his ear with the muzzle of one of these, I decided that there are a lot of folks out there that should just leave firearms alone.

Same goes for 510 hybrid top cap mods.

 

[93gc40]

Just to let you know. I refuse to be diverted to gun regulation rhetoric.

Sorry was first example that came to mind.
I'm talking about the safety of devices and Machines. I just used the gun, as an example of a machine where SAFETY devices do not prevent bad outcomes. Because it is not the device or machine that is unsafe in the first place, it is the PERSON using them. I guess I could have used the car, bicycle or even a hammer as a more politically less involved example.

 

[haleysdadda]

Who mounted this atty with the bad pin design?

Who was holding the gun? The 60 yearold loaded revolver hanging from my bedpost, or my holster, has not shot me in the 30 years it has hung there. It has no safety and a lightened trigger pull. The 105 yearold loaded Winchester on my wall, hasn't shot anybody either. There has always been an Operator envolved in every case of a gun firing that I know of.

Sounds like you've been winning at a game of Russian roulette for 30 years! I'm assuming that your revolver is a single action (sort of a safety). Your absolutely right an inanimate object cannot activate itself without outside interaction. Problem starts when you as a responsible gun owner (vape shop) hands a gun with no safety (mech mod & atty) to somebody who's never held one. Shows them how to load it (add e-juice) and pull the trigger (vape it). But you don't show them how to use it safely, clean it, & maintain it! That's why we need safetys & training on all devices so the uninformed don't hurt themselves or others!

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Sounds like you've been winning at a game of Russian roulette for 30 years! I'm assuming that your revolver is a single action (sort of a safety). Your absolutely right an inanimate object cannot activate itself without outside interaction. Problem starts when you as a responsible gun owner (vape shop) hands a gun with no safety (mech mod & atty) to somebody who's never held one. Shows them how to load it (add e-juice) and pull the trigger (vape it). But you don't show them how to use it safely, clean it, & maintain it! That's why we need safetys & training on all devices so the uninformed don't hurt themselves or others!

That safety training is what many of us on here try to see that new users have.

And a few always give us flak for it.

 

[93gc40]

Sounds like you've been winning at a game of Russian roulette for 30 years! I'm assuming that your revolver is a single action (sort of a safety). Your absolutely right an inanimate object cannot activate itself without outside interaction. Problem starts when you as a responsible gun owner (vape shop) hands a gun with no safety (mech mod & atty) to somebody who's never held one. Shows them how to load it (add e-juice) and pull the trigger (vape it). But you don't show them how to use it safely, clean it, & maintain it! That's why we need safetys & training on all devices so the uninformed don't hurt themselves or others!

Training YES, Safety devices are next to worthless, without said training.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I just don't understand the thought process.

Here's an example:
Is this safe...
Watched YouTube video? Check.
Build crazy quad coil Clapton build on a mech just like in video? Check.
Try it out? Check.

THEN....Come to ECF and asking if it's safe because it's an insanely hot build?


And we pretend to wonder why this stuff makes the news.

 

[haleysdadda]

Before anybody thinks they know my feelings about gun control. I believe it's a good solid stance, a good sight picture, and a smooth trigger pull!

 

[93gc40]

Sounds like you've been winning at a game of Russian roulette for 30 years! I'm assuming that your revolver is a single action (sort of a safety). Your absolutely right an inanimate object cannot activate itself without outside interaction. Problem starts when you as a responsible gun owner (vape shop) hands a gun with no safety (mech mod & atty) to somebody who's never held one. Shows them how to load it (add e-juice) and pull the trigger (vape it). But you don't show them how to use it safely, clean it, & maintain it! That's why we need safetys & training on all devices so the uninformed don't hurt themselves or others!

There is no RESPONSIBLE person in your example.. There may be a person at fault for the outcome, ONLY.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Outta here, all that needs to be said on the OP topic has been said in my opinion.

 

[haleysdadda]

I just don't understand the thought process.

Here's an example:
Is this safe...
Watched YouTube video? Check.
Build crazy quad coil Clapton build on a mech just like in video? Check.
Try it out? Check.

THEN....Come to ECF and asking if it's safe because it's an insanely hot build?


And we pretend to wonder why this stuff makes the news.

at least he was on a regulated mod with that craziness! What I don't understand is why anyone would even think about or especially try a build like that!!!!!
Too bad felony stupid isn't punishable!

 

[tj99959]

at least he was on a regulated mod with that craziness! What I don't understand is why anyone would even think about or especially try a build like that!!!!!
Too bad felony stupid isn't punishable!

OH but it is. Murphy's nature has a way of sorting that one out. We just get to read about it in the news.

 

[edyle]

Hi,

I've been vaping for 5ish years now and have been using a Reo Grand and many BF RDA's for the past 3 years. I know about battery safety, I think I know just about everything there is to know.

I recently purchased a SMPL Clone which is a hybrid and makes direct positive contact with my Sony VTC5 batteries and I stay well within my batteries amp limit. Every time I vape it, I think it could blow on me for some reason, I know my build is solid, I don't do anything fancy, just dual 3mm 6 wrap coils ranging from twisted 28 to 24G, sometimes RxW and sometimes cotton and I use deoxit gold on my batteries/intellicharger.

All of that being said, what is my risk.....Reo vs SMPL? The Reo has a gold plated beryllium copper spring that will collapse the second a short occurs and its a good as gold to me. (easy fix, love my Reo) The SMPL has bottom vent holes and the C type clip for the button, I am sure it is a spring and I would assume it collapses the same. Perhaps the direct battery contact adds additional risk?

" Perhaps the direct battery contact adds additional risk?"

After 3 years of vaping somewhere in the back of your mind your instincts are telling you something .

See my avatar for a real hybrid: nemsis plus 3d rda.
The smpl is just a mod with no centerpin.

 

[sofarsogood]

I didn't read all the posts so sorry if this has been said already. Mechanical mods dropped off my roadmap from a 1-2 punch, temp control and watching youtube videos of batteries being vented on purpose. It's not worth it to me. Here is the scenario I believe we're reading about in the news. Somebody correct me if they know better.

Bone heads with more ego than caution buy a tube shaped mech mod from a walkin retailer who isn't qualified to carry them. He makes one of the list of mistakes that anyone can make and over stresses the battery until it starts to vent. THEN what happens is the battery bulgess in the middle which blocks the vent holes on the bottom but the battery decides to vent from the top where the ventilation is inadquate and bursts open the battery case. A box shaped mode is unlikely t do that but then here is room for electronics so they should be there and then it's not a mech any more.

 

[Bunnykiller]

here is a good example of a true hybrid and a tank set up

the real hybrid is on the left, the atty that can cause an issue on the right...
notice the clearance of the pin on the atty to the negative threads of the 510
which of these 2 setups do you think can become an issue??

 

[Bunnykiller]

Before anybody thinks they know my feelings about gun control. I believe it's a good solid stance, a good sight picture, and a smooth trigger pull!

this is gun control

 

[beckdg]

this is gun control

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How so?

You completely missed the center target with Every shot.

In other news... I've never wanted a SMPL before now.



Tapatyped

 

[suprtrkr]

Yes, you can blow your face off, so don't do that. The real risk with those faux-hybrid mods like the SMPL is clearance between the center 510 pin and outer 510 threads. If the outer threads contact the top of your battery, you are in downtown dead short city and it will blow, probably very quickly. You won't even have to push the button, just screw up the mod or the atty tight.If you have to use those, make sure your atty has a protruding center pin. And switch to button top batteries. Usage over time can dimple or dent a flat top battery, letting the outer screw casing contact.

 

[Butch]

Pretty much that, if done right it's perfectly safe, if done wrong, it may work but one little thing can like a hair trigger on that gun would make it extremely unsafe....

Ok with that said........hypothetical.........you are refilling out on the street.......baby walks by with her bluejeans on.......can you pay attention to your vaping or did baby just walk off with your eyeballs & attention span.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Ok with that said........hypothetical.........you are refilling out on the street.......baby walks by with her bluejeans on.......can you pay attention to your vaping or did baby just walk off with your eyeballs & attention span.

I think that falls into the don't drip and drive category lol..