Cracked door repair advice

[Filthy-Beast]

Well my door took a tumble on a tile floor and has crack. Below the squonk hole is cracked the complete length of the section. The section above the squonk hole is cracked all but the last 1/2 inch from the top.

I've never worked with black palm before so I have a few questions for Rob and other wood workers.

What glue? regular wood glue, Gorilla glue or super glue?

Just glue up where I can get glue in the crack. This would be the entire section below the squonk hole and just the bottom 1/2 inch of the section above the squonk hole. Other option would be to help it crack all the way up so I can glue the whole length.

I'm leaning toward helping it crack so I can glue the entire length using gorilla glue.


What are your thoughts?

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Oh, snap, FB - what a bummer. Feel for you.

I've used Gorilla Wood Glue (not on a reo, tho) and it rocks just like the original. To really get it set up, you'd prolly have to separate the door into two pieces (applying glue to each side... yadda yadda yadda... you know the drill). I'm assuming that it's a clean fracture, with no wood splinters missing and a clean fit when pressed together.

Since it's a rare piece, I'd actually suggest sending it the spa (not to impune your skills, man - you are one of the most capable reonauts in here).

 

[JC Okie]

 

[Susan~S]

Your woody purposely pushed her door so that it would take that tumble. She wants a day at the spa!

 

[Rickajho]

Wow. And when it came to breaking stuff I thought my sister had the most evil tile floor ever.

What are you getting when you gently place some "wiggle" leverage on the top part of the door? Does it feel like it's ready to give loose in that area as well? I cringe at the thought of breaking it further on purpose but you may need to to get a solid repair done once.

 

[Ian444]

Since it's a rare piece, I'd actually suggest sending it the spa (not to impune your skills, man - you are one of the most capable reonauts in here).

Yep what Papa said, or if you get some advice from Rob, who's going to be busy with the website down. Sorry to see that, but I'm hoping it can be fixed with no visible traces. Not disturbing the exterior finish might be the hard part.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

I'm lucky in that it's a natural finish. But unlucky also, on closer inspection there are two cracks one that starts at the top and one at the bottom. they don't meet but pass by each other, about 2mm apart. Black Palm is very grainy, one of those types of woods that even after sanding will still catch splinters if your not very carful.

IIRC, it such a pain to work with Rob said he's not going to make any more woods with it.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Oh, snap, FB - what a bummer. Feel for you.

I've used Gorilla Wood Glue (not on a reo, tho) and it rocks just like the original. To really get it set up, you'd prolly have to separate the door into two pieces (applying glue to each side... yadda yadda yadda... you know the drill). I'm assuming that it's a clean fracture, with no wood splinters missing and a clean fit when pressed together.

Since it's a rare piece, I'd actually suggest sending it the spa (not to impune your skills, man - you are one of the most capable reonauts in here).

Thanks, no offense taken. I probably won't send it in unless I hoople it all up. Rob needs a challenge

 

[AzPlumber]

Not sure about the Gorilla wood glue but the regular stuff really expands when it sets up. I've used the Gorilla super glue for a lot of different repairs with great results.

If the repair goes south and the door is trashed go ahead and flush it down the commode, the rats are needing another.

 

[supertrunker]

I don't see how you could get enough glue in there to effect a good repair as it is. So on that basis, i'd snap it the whole way and glue the entire thing.

The natural finish means you'd only have to rough it up a little when finished for an invisible repair.

T

 

[redeyedancer]

If I have a mod that is cracked like your door I will break it in half completely. Gorilla glue is perfect black palm is a nightmare to work with depending on the wood some of it is easier and your are correct FB sanding it smooth is no fun . I wont buy black palm again unless I can hold it in my had and inspect it .

If it doesn't work out well for you when I am making the new wood mods I can make another door for your mod if I have more of the black palm in stock . Chances are I can find a piece

 

[quincas]

I hope my eyes are playing tricks on me, Rob. You are suggesting that if the door is cracked, you will break the mod in half completely???

That IS a scary thought.

 

[nerak]

I hope my eyes are playing tricks on me, Rob. You are suggesting that if the door is cracked, you will break the mod in half completely???

That IS a scary thought.

I am pretty sure he said meant he would break the door in half if it was cracked like that one.

But I have heard of wood REO's that have split in half or almost in half from a hard drop. He might break them all the way in half also to fix. And when Robert gets done with them you can't tell it happened.

 

[quincas]

I am pretty sure he said meant he would break the door in half if it was cracked like that one.

But I have heard of wood REO's that have split in half or almost in half from a hard drop. He might break them all the way in half also to fix. And when Robert gets done with them you can't tell it happened.

I thought so too [emoji12]

 

[unsure]

Sounds like Rob has the perfect solution for you FB. My woods are stabilized and only the last Woodvil gave me any problems with the doors. The fit was so tight that using my thumb on the front surface wouldn't budget one bit. I had to use the over hang portion and push hard to get it to slide. I started to get lazy and began using the plunger for easy leverage TILL I read this thread and saw your pic of the crack. I could see if I continued a similar crack could happen to mine. Tho with most of my physical abilities failing me these past 2 years sanding the sides of the doors I can do and I did.

Black Palm is a gorgeous looking REO and Im sure you get it back to being perfect again.

 

[2buildawall]

Ughhhh....... Sorry FB. Very much something I would do.

Maybe with a syringe you could get the right amount of glue in there. I personally would not crack it more but Papa is a smart guy so I would look at all options before giving it a go. Small cracks I also use a toothpick to apply the glue with varying degrees of success. I like gorilla wood glue also. If you have any seepage upon application it comes right off. You know the drill. I am not a great wood worker but do have a lot of experience. I would give it a go. Good luck and again I am sorry that happened.

 

[Rickajho]

Ughhhh....... Sorry FB. Very much something I would do.

Maybe with a syringe you could get the right amount of glue in there. I personally would not crack it more but Papa is a smart guy so I would look at all options before giving it a go. Small cracks I also use a toothpick to apply the glue with varying degrees of success. I like gorilla wood glue also. If you have any seepage upon application it comes right off. You know the drill. I am not a great wood worker but do have a lot of experience. I would give it a go. Good luck and again I am sorry that happened.

Pictures here are very deceiving. From the pictures it looks like FB is working on a door - a real seven foot tall door about 1.5" thick. The reality is the door - and the secondary crack - are so small I don't see any practical amount of glue getting in the not fully open crack that it will do any good. Didn't see a pick of the crack through the larger part of the door from the other end of things - whether it was a clean crack through the grain was the thing I was concerned about that I couldn't see. But Rob pretty much confirmed it - try to break it fully open as cleanly as possible in order to fix it good.

 

[MattyRetro]

I believe you can buy superglue that is in a syringe. I know for guitar repairs, this is a pretty common practice. Take a look at Stewart-Macdonald and see if they sell it. I'm betting they do.

Here ya go:
http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_an...esives/Applicators_and_Pipettes/Pipettes.html

 

[Chowderhead1972]

I say break it, soak it, gorilla glue it, clamp it and leave it alone for a few days.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

I'm going to contemplate for a while. really I'm going to wait until I'm well rest and not rushed. I 'm onboard with completing the crack and using Gorilla Glue as Rob and others have suggest. Part of my early dilemma was having never glued up black palm I was not sure of the best glue.

Now for the real issue, I've discovered that the crack in the top section is not "clean". When looked at from top edge, or end, of the door there is one crack. On the front of the door that cracks runs all the way down to the squonk hole. But on the back it does not and looks like a separate crack.

Red lines represent the cracks. On the left is the front on the right is the back.