Travel and Vaping Cruise ship passengers & ecigs!

[stashbldr]

Jackie, we're on Monarch two weeks from today. First trip with our new 510's w/cartomizers. Looking forward to trying out our new toys

woohoo Orville, happy cruising! We leave next Friday for a cruise on the Jewel out of Boston. In addition to my KR808 I also have a 510, and also have 2 wetboxes (bottom juice feeders), a black one and a PINK one. Love them all. And just got an order in for a Journeyman (also a bottom juice feeder), now have to wait for him to build my JM but shouldnt take too long. I think there is nothing better than vaping all over the cruise ship LOL, it makes me feel like I'm getting away with doing something "naughty"

 

[orville99]

woohoo Orville, happy cruising! We leave next Friday for a cruise on the Jewel out of Boston. In addition to my KR808 I also have a 510, and also have 2 wetboxes (bottom juice feeders), a black one and a PINK one. Love them all. And just got an order in for a Journeyman (also a bottom juice feeder), now have to wait for him to build my JM but shouldnt take too long. I think there is nothing better than vaping all over the cruise ship LOL, it makes me feel like I'm getting away with doing something "naughty"

I'd love to do that one, but my wife doesn't like to fly. I'm beginning to think we moved down here just so she could be within driving distance to four ports.

 

[orville99]

In the post Orville99 made no reference to a nicotine inhaler.
A user was asking what a e-cig was and that was his answer. Then he says that 2 were FDA approved.
He also posted a YouTube video in which the inhaler the person is reviewing looks more like a Tampon applicator than a cigarette.

Orville99 may have been trying to help, but I took it as misinformation to cause confusion.

From the U.S. Patent on file in the US Patent and Trademark office for the Nicotrol Inhaler:

"A device for delivering a condensation aerosol comprising a substance to a subject comprising: a housing; an airway contained within the housing comprising an inlet, and an outlet; a mouthpiece coupled to the outlet; at least one support disposed within the airway; the substance disposed on the at least one support; a mechanism configured to vaporize the substance; a power source for powering the mechanism configured to vaporize the substance; an actuation mechanism configured to transfer energy from the power source to the mechanism configured to vaporize the substance; and airflow routing means for routing an airflow within the airway to form a condensation aerosol from the vaporized substance and to substantially prevent the condensation aerosol from being deposited within the airway. "

Sounds awfully familiar doesn't it

 

[okwriter]

Nice to see some fellow CC members here. It was the e-cig post (by goldwinger on that forum) that prompted me to come here and begin reading. Awaiting my 510 kit anxiously and looking forward to my two booked cruises!

I'm easy to identify---same user name here and there!

 

[E150club]

Hello fellow CC' ers: Okwriter I'm waiting for my "510" also. I wish I had two cruises booked. Hello Stashbldr,I'm going to have some ?'s for you soon.

 

[Katatawnic]

In the post Orville99 made no reference to a nicotine inhaler.
A user was asking what a e-cig was and that was his answer. Then he says that 2 were FDA approved.
He also posted a YouTube video in which the inhaler the person is reviewing looks more like a Tampon applicator than a cigarette.

Orville99 may have been trying to help, but I took it as misinformation to cause confusion.

You took it as "misinformation to cause confusion." I didn't, and I'm sure many others didn't, as well. It was to cause understanding.

Orville99 perhaps could have better worded it, but did say that there are many "variations" of e-cigs, and then gave the Nicotrol/Nicorette examples.

A white Riva or Ego doesn't look all that different from the "tampon applicator" looking device in the video that Orville99 posted... how much like a cigarette do Riva or Ego, etc., really appear? My Joye 510 doesn't look anything like a cigarette and everything like a pen. And so on. Our PVs may be prettier than that nicotine inhaler, and they have atomizers that heat the liquid whereas the nicotine inhalers don't... but they are otherwise extremely similar and the concept is identical.

The "misinformation" posts had nothing to do with aesthetics and everything to do with the concept of PVs. I took Orville99's posts as having much to do with the fuss being made over the safety of PVs, and the lack of FDA testing, etc. Not to mention the fact that the FDA approved and doctor prescribed nicotine inhalers inform users that they will in all likelihood have to explain to numerous people that they are not smoking but instead inhaling a harmless vapor, and therefore there is no second-hand smoke for others to smell, breathe in, or otherwise be offended... or fearful.

I am inhaling nicotine, water, and VG and/or PG vapor from my PVs, just like nicotine inhalers approved by the FDA to be packaged and advertised as stop smoking devices. My PV immediately got me down to 2-4 cigarettes a day, after 27 years of smoking 30-40 cigarettes a day. In the last two days, I have had zero cigarettes. Why? Because my PV happens to be a nicotine inhaler... simply more flavorful and customizable to my own tastes and preferences than those name brand NRTs that the FDA happened to approve.

The ongoing heated debate at the CC forum has been about safety and studies and FDA approval, etc., because the naysayers couldn't argue about smoke or smell or anything that can be argued about cigarettes. Orville99 didn't post misinformation... it was an excellent example of a smoking alternative that may or may not get an addict off of nicotine, but will indeed get most smokers off of a disgusting and deadly habit.

I haven't seen further arguments from that high & mighty, self-righteous "don't you dare invade my airspace" woman on the CC forum thread since then... yet, anyhow. lol


As an aside... I'd all but forgotten about those nicotine inhalers, even though that's exactly what I thought of when I first read about e-cigs. Just more evidence that the FDA's B.S. about the "safety" of PVs being unknown, encouraging bans, etc., has nothing to do with health and everything to do with money. If Nicotrol and Nicorette can distribute devices with which users inhale nicotine and PG vapor, with the FDA's stamp of approval, then what is the difference? Corporate control of monetary distribution.

 

[James Wall]

Hi Kat, I was researching the Nicotrol Inhaler (there is some decent/good info in the other quit smoking options section of this very forum!) and was going to comment on it and give a description of it. It was some interesting information. You and Orville beat me to the clarifications about this. So it is a type of personal vaporizer, but I would like to add a few other bits of information I picked up from others' posts about this though.

1. The Nicotrol Inhaler does not use the same "e-liquid" we do. It is not pg/vg based and no flavors are added. Apparently the chemical they use does not have a noticeable taste and may not provide much vapor or throat hit (I saw some differing opinions about this).
2. The cost is apparently prohibitive. I haven't found any exact prices, but it seems to be fairly high. As well, the 5-6 cartridges that come with the pack don't last longer than our cartridges at a much higher price and are not re-fillable with Nicotrol's version of the liquid.
3. The people who have described using it describe stopping use for various reasons (such as price, lack of flavor, not close enough to the actual smoking experience), and often switching to the e-cig from what sounds like another low-success NRT.

 

[orville99]

I believe they now have a menthol version. The costs are in the vicinity of $200 for a Nicotrol kit, which comes with 168 carts. That's about a months worth if you go by their instructions. A month's worth of analogs used to cost me around $200. A month's worth of e-cig use costs me about $15. Wonder why the cartels are trying to ban our versions?

 

[James Wall]

Well, I'm not usually a conspiracy-theory type o' person; I believe a man landed on the moon and that Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK, but I have to agree with the reasons so many others here think the FDA and the AMA and so many other "letter" groups are against the e-cig. Tobacco, pharmacy, and the government stand to lose A LOT of money over this. I wouldn't be surprised if within 5-10 years we have another tobacco conspiracy unveiled that will rival what came out in the tobacco lawsuits. This time it will be the FDA, BP, BT, AMA, ASH, the anti's, and the states trying to suppress information for the sake of their bottom line.

 

[firhill]

I wish I had gone with the pcc since I work from home and sit in front of the computer all day.

While we're on the subject of mis-information, you might wanna stop telling people on the CC thread that a PCC would help greatly if you vape by your computer all day.

 

[rons29445]

While we're on the subject of mis-information, you might wanna stop telling people on the CC thread that a PCC would help greatly if you vape by your computer all day.

The op asked me a direct question and I answered what worked for me.
Here is the entire post

No worries.

I went with the basic kit with 2 batteries. I wish I had gone with the pcc since I work from home and sit in front of the computer all day. I find that I have to change batteries at least once a day. But I just keep one in the charger all the time so they are fresh. When the battery is low, it blinks and you cant draw on it. But the charge time is about an hour and a half and i just attach it to my usb hub on the PC

I smoked Salem Ultra Lights 100 (Salem Silver 100's) and I found the e-cig menthol a bit minty, but I have gotten used to it after a full week of use and actually prefer it to other flavors that are out there.

As for effectiveness. I have not had a tobacco cigarette in 1 week. I have sat around others smoking and did not want one, I simply vaped on my e-cig. I will probably see more converts next weekend when I go to breakfast.

Hope this helps.

 

[Katatawnic]

Hi Kat, I was researching the Nicotrol Inhaler (there is some decent/good info in the other quit smoking options section of this very forum!) and was going to comment on it and give a description of it. It was some interesting information. You and Orville beat me to the clarifications about this. So it is a type of personal vaporizer, but I would like to add a few other bits of information I picked up from others' posts about this though.

1. The Nicotrol Inhaler does not use the same "e-liquid" we do. It is not pg/vg based and no flavors are added. Apparently the chemical they use does not have a noticeable taste and may not provide much vapor or throat hit (I saw some differing opinions about this).
2. The cost is apparently prohibitive. I haven't found any exact prices, but it seems to be fairly high. As well, the 5-6 cartridges that come with the pack don't last longer than our cartridges at a much higher price and are not re-fillable with Nicotrol's version of the liquid.
3. The people who have described using it describe stopping use for various reasons (such as price, lack of flavor, not close enough to the actual smoking experience), and often switching to the e-cig from what sounds like another low-success NRT.

Oh yes... PVs are indeed the much better choice, all around. Considering nicotine inhalers came along first, I'd say they were likely an inspiration for our PVs, though. They paved the way for something that works for so many of us, so in that sense, they helped me toward quitting even though I've never touched one. lol

The op asked me a direct question and I answered what worked for me.
Here is the entire post

No worries.

I went with the basic kit with 2 batteries. I wish I had gone with the pcc since I work from home and sit in front of the computer all day. I find that I have to change batteries at least once a day. But I just keep one in the charger all the time so they are fresh. When the battery is low, it blinks and you cant draw on it. But the charge time is about an hour and a half and i just attach it to my usb hub on the PC

Ron... it sounds like you're thinking of a USB pass-through. You connect that to your computer, and vape directly from it. A PCC is a personal charging case, with which you'd still be changing batteries just as often as you do with any other charger.

PCCs are great for when you're not at home for simultaneously carrying and charging your PV.

 

[orville99]

While we're on the subject of mis-information, you might wanna stop telling people on the CC thread that a PCC would help greatly if you vape by your computer all day.

Actually, I usually take both a PCC and a pass-thru with me when I go to my office. I hook the pass-thru up to the computer, but when I'm away from my office (happens often on any given day), I just grab the PCC and I'm good to for as long as I'm away. If I didn't have a pass-thru, I'd still keep the PCC with me at work, as it gives me much more mobility between charges.

 

[firhill]

If I didn't have a pass-thru, I'd still keep the PCC with me at work, as it gives me much more mobility between charges.

I'd just use a wall charger, in the same AC outlet as the laptop, to charge my batteries in that situation.

Less wear on the PCC.

 

[orville99]

I'd just use a wall charger, in the same AC outlet as the laptop, to charge my batteries in that situation.

Less wear on the PCC.

I have one of those as well. For some strange reason, I find that batteries charged on the PCC hold their charge longer than ones charged on the wall charger. When I'm away from my office, it could be as much as a half mile, and for as long as four hours, so I use them all during the day depending on where I am.

 

[rons29445]

I stand corrected and will admit it.

I was under the impression that PCC was the unit that attached by usb to a charger or usb ports. As I see it on the site I use as a PC Kit. But it is indeed a Electronic Cigarette PassThru

And I see I need to get one of those too

 

[James Wall]

I just got my pcc. I figured I'd need it for the cruise. Between three fully charged batteries and a full pcc I should be able to go the whole day without needing to be near a USB or a wall plug.

 

[jons]

I've been on several cruises, all with Royal Caribbean, and all before I ever discovered the ecig. I would have to say that Royal Caribbean accomdated me really well as far as smoking. I could smoke in every bar and in every lounge, of course the casino, and on every open deck and this all been on my past three cruises in the past three years.

 

[grandmato5]

Another cruiser here stopping by to say hello ! I'm really looking forward to our LA to FLL cruise in Feb as a vaporer.

 

[Vap510]

Good some lines are picking up the e cig!