Cyclone RBA Nirvana
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No...I have a Cyclone so I know how far down it sits. I was wondering if you had to do anything in particular to get the AFC cap to sit firm...such as not screw your atty down as far.
Moot point though...I have an untumbled raw just screaming for turbocad6's modification. I believe that's my weekend project.
Good luck with that, look forward to seeing some pics when done.
here is what it looks like with an rm2 after it's milled down, it's not bad, just not recessed into the well because there is no well
So I now have 3 Reo compatible RBA's - Cyclone, eBaron, and and RM2. The cyclone is kicking the other two.
Not sure exactly why but I suspect the very long silica is part of it. The silica wraps around the posts and is at least 3-4 times the length of the RM2. I set it up with 32g kanthal and 2.5mm silica (came in at 1.5 ohms) and it is hitting as hard as a genesis with just as much flavor. Keeps blowing my mind. I can go 5-10 hits without squonking.
The eBaron is ok. I need to get the coil master and at this point I am still going at 2.0 ohms and I think it will be better with a lower ohm coil. It is large compared to the RM2 and the Cyclone.
The RM2 is probably in the middle. This actually surprises me given all the positive comments here so I may not have it setup right yet. I have had to re-coil it a couple times just to get it going right. The first coil started at 1.4 ohms when I set it up but shortly after using jumped up to 2.7 (???). I used 32g kanthal and 2.0mm silica with 4 wraps so it should not have been that high. The second coil kept giving me dry hits so I had to tweak it around so it would pull the liquid up better. I do have the coil aligned with the hole in the bottom. Now it is better but not as strong as the Cyclone. I have to squonk the RM2 every hit or two to keep it from giving me dry hits, I'd like to make the silica longer if I can figure out a way. I've done dozens of coils before without problems so I think it must be the way I have it setup. Still its a really good rba after tweaking.
I'm wanting another Cyclone really bad.
I happen to have a Cyclone that's been stashed away ever since I got my RM.2's ( I now have four of them) Nothing wrong with it functionally, but I really prefer the RM.2's. And I sold my Chalice! Tried to sell my Cyclone on the classies ( I'd called it a Tornado
) I love the wide posts , the ceramic bottom and the cup shape of the bottom of the RM.2's.
you want to be able to see your coils right at the air inlets, if the top cap isn't sitting all the way down then the coils will be too low and this can kill the vape quality, vape is best with the coils right at the air inlets so you'll at least need to raise them if the cap don't go all the way down. the cyclone is cool cause you can open the airways fully to easily check coil alignment
you want to be able to see your coils right at the air inlets, if the top cap isn't sitting all the way down then the coils will be too low and this can kill the vape quality, vape is best with the coils right at the air inlets so you'll at least need to raise them if the cap don't go all the way down. the cyclone is cool cause you can open the airways fully to easily check coil alignment
That's how I do it...then you can fire them bad boys up and it looks like an evil robot comin' to getcha! Oh yeah...
Evil robots are awesome! And good robots...robots in general actually...
ha, evil robot mod?
so now I have a question for those with cyclones, I assume most of you guys bought them specifically set up as bottom feeders so I'm guessing the post comes pre drilled. I've seen a few mentions here and there that the feed hole is "up higher on the post" so it doesn't drain back as well as an rm2, is this true? how high does the factory feed hole sit? I got my cyclone as a top feeder and drilled the firing pin myself converting it to bottom feed and I made my feed hole right at the deck level, the hole I did even extends slightly into the base of the insulator so it's at the lowest point of the base and mine feeds and drains back just as well as the rm2. I would really like to see if the factory feed hole is higher, might pick up another cyclone some day and want to know if a factory bottom feed cyclone is actually feeding above the base and how much above? anyone have any pictures of the feed hole in the stock bf cyclone?
so now I have a question for those with cyclones, I assume most of you guys bought them specifically set up as bottom feeders so I'm guessing the post comes pre drilled. I've seen a few mentions here and there that the feed hole is "up higher on the post" so it doesn't drain back as well as an rm2, is this true? how high does the factory feed hole sit? I got my cyclone as a top feeder and drilled the firing pin myself converting it to bottom feed and I made my feed hole right at the deck level, the hole I did even extends slightly into the base of the insulator so it's at the lowest point of the base and mine feeds and drains back just as well as the rm2. I would really like to see if the factory feed hole is higher, might pick up another cyclone some day and want to know if a factory bottom feed cyclone is actually feeding above the base and how much above? anyone have any pictures of the feed hole in the stock bf cyclone?
The feed hole is on the post but it (at least mine does) does still drain some back but imo, leaves just the right amount. I like it.
Yeah it seems to drain through the gap around the positive post. The feed hole is in the positive post beneath the wire hole... I don't know if they drilled one above or below the standard hole.
must be below cause the coil hole on the non bottom feed one is high up towards the top.
if anyone gets the chance to snap a pic when rewicking I'd really like to see it, I'll get a pic of mine for comparison when I rewick
if anyone gets the chance to snap a pic when rewicking I'd really like to see it, I'll get a pic of mine for comparison when I rewick
ha, evil robot mod?
so now I have a question for those with cyclones, I assume most of you guys bought them specifically set up as bottom feeders so I'm guessing the post comes pre drilled. I've seen a few mentions here and there that the feed hole is "up higher on the post" so it doesn't drain back as well as an rm2, is this true? how high does the factory feed hole sit? I got my cyclone as a top feeder and drilled the firing pin myself converting it to bottom feed and I made my feed hole right at the deck level, the hole I did even extends slightly into the base of the insulator so it's at the lowest point of the base and mine feeds and drains back just as well as the rm2. I would really like to see if the factory feed hole is higher, might pick up another cyclone some day and want to know if a factory bottom feed cyclone is actually feeding above the base and how much above? anyone have any pictures of the feed hole in the stock bf cyclone?
Yes, you have to specify bottom feed when you purchase normally. You can kinda see how high the feed hole sits here in this picture. I haven't had any drainage or flooding issues. When I coil it for my Reo I use the upper hole but when it's coiled as a dedicated dripper I use the bottom hole to keep the coils level and closer to the deck (you can do the same with the upper hole but it's not as easy).
The hole is definitely above the deck but below where you put the wire leg in. I'll try to send pics later today. I think the fact the hole is high enough to not drain is what makes it better than the RM 2. With the Rm2, my juice was draining back in the bottle after it had been heated by the coil and turned black and tasted nasty. The other advantage is you can use it as a dripper if you want and it won't leak or drain out down your mod
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I've been thinking about the difference between the RM2 and Cyclone. I'm not sure I can establish that there is a difference in the vape quality. I would have to have both side by side, with the same resistance and coil configuration, and with the same e-liquid.
Things I can compare:
The RM2 is easier to build - bigger and screws are easier to work with
The Cyclone allows for a longer wick so they hold more and can hit more between re-wetting.
They both feed well and the drain back excess to the bottle
Both have side air holes. It is easier to get the the RM2's to line up with the coil, but the Cyclone is not much more difficult.
I prefer the Cyclone's pull cap to the RM2 screw cap. Always a pain to get the RM2 off my Reo without first removing the cap.
The Cyclone is full Stainless vs chrome plated brass.
The RM2 has a ceramic base, not sure if that changes the vape or not since the shape of the bases are the same (both convex to push excess to the center to drain).
The Cyclone costs about 1.5 times what the RM2 costs.
I think the vape is better on the Cyclone but someone else may like the vape with an RM2 better. I don't plan on replacing any of my RM2s with Cyclones.
Things I can compare:
The RM2 is easier to build - bigger and screws are easier to work with
The Cyclone allows for a longer wick so they hold more and can hit more between re-wetting.
They both feed well and the drain back excess to the bottle
Both have side air holes. It is easier to get the the RM2's to line up with the coil, but the Cyclone is not much more difficult.
I prefer the Cyclone's pull cap to the RM2 screw cap. Always a pain to get the RM2 off my Reo without first removing the cap.
The Cyclone is full Stainless vs chrome plated brass.
The RM2 has a ceramic base, not sure if that changes the vape or not since the shape of the bases are the same (both convex to push excess to the center to drain).
The Cyclone costs about 1.5 times what the RM2 costs.
I think the vape is better on the Cyclone but someone else may like the vape with an RM2 better. I don't plan on replacing any of my RM2s with Cyclones.
Other way round for me, can't use plated, attys, make me unwell, so all I use is a cyclone, find them perfect, & easy to coil
Frank
Couldn't wait for the weekend so I ground down my tumbled raw Thursday evening to fit the Cyclone AFC. Been vaping on this all day...
I was a little nervous modifying an already effective (and expensive) PV but I'm very pleased with how it turned out. Vaping the Cycline with AFC on the Reo is sublime...so much better than the stock cap...I'm absolutely loving it. Even the squonk is different. I just squonk once without the need to squonk and hold to soak the cotton.
I did the initial grind with a Dremel and drill bit. Once I had it near where I thought it needed to be I smoothed it out with a metal file and finished it off with a nice polishing.
Pre-polish.
Post-polish.
With a cute little Cyclone sized o-ring.
Cyclone installed with a nice little 30 awg 1 ohm dual coil. I tried to do 28 awg but just couldn't get it to the 1 ohm mark without making huge coils.
With AFC installed. I've re-christened this Reo Gort. Klaatu barada nikto!
ANGRY ROBOT!
I was a little nervous modifying an already effective (and expensive) PV but I'm very pleased with how it turned out. Vaping the Cycline with AFC on the Reo is sublime...so much better than the stock cap...I'm absolutely loving it. Even the squonk is different. I just squonk once without the need to squonk and hold to soak the cotton.
I did the initial grind with a Dremel and drill bit. Once I had it near where I thought it needed to be I smoothed it out with a metal file and finished it off with a nice polishing.
Pre-polish.
Post-polish.
With a cute little Cyclone sized o-ring.
Cyclone installed with a nice little 30 awg 1 ohm dual coil. I tried to do 28 awg but just couldn't get it to the 1 ohm mark without making huge coils.
With AFC installed. I've re-christened this Reo Gort. Klaatu barada nikto!
ANGRY ROBOT!
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