Damn Vape Fresia MTL/RL RTA

[NealBJr]

I haven't had the same problem, Neal, but it could be my cotton, or my juice, or the totally random nature of vape....

I don't wick tightly, and I don't drop it all the way down to the deck. Cotton is KGD (Amazon variety, nothing fancy), and juices are (approx. ) 70PG/30VG (Plus or minus 5).

I do find that if I haven't vaped them for a day or so, I need to give them a flip (bubble up), or I get a little
seeping, but other than that they're performing well for me (zero dry hits to date).

I'm guessing (based on some of what you said there) that you're juice is high VG. Is that a correct assumption on my part?

Yes, I did say I used a high VG juice. I would call it max VG. I mix my own juice. I'll even tell ya exactly how my juice is made and you'll understand how viscous it is. I have a 100mg/ml nic PG base, and I am assuming all my flavorings are PG based. The juice in my atomizer right now I put in 6ml of the nic base, 6ml of Capella's caramel, 2ml of Cap vanilla custard, then filled the rest (86ml)with VG. so you could say it's roughly a 14/86 PG/VG mix. I use Muji cotton, and I've had no issues with flooding, but yes with the dry hits....until I see "the bubble" reach the top.

I have a Siren II clone that has a same general raised GTA style setup... but it's a 24mm design. It's airflow is more restrictive, but full open it's acceptable. I don't have much of an issue with it's wicking of my juice, but I still prefer the airflow and flavor just a tad better on the Fresia.

 

[DPLongo22]

Yes, I did say I used a high VG juice. I would call it max VG. I mix my own juice. I'll even tell ya exactly how my juice is made and you'll understand how viscous it is. I have a 100mg/ml nic PG base, and I am assuming all my flavorings are PG based. The juice in my atomizer right now I put in 6ml of the nic base, 6ml of Capella's caramel, 2ml of Cap vanilla custard, then filled the rest (86ml)with VG. so you could say it's roughly a 14/86 PG/VG mix. I use Muji cotton, and I've had no issues with flooding, but yes with the dry hits....until I see "the bubble" reach the top.

I have a Siren II clone that has a same general raised GTA style setup... but it's a 24mm design. It's airflow is more restrictive, but full open it's acceptable. I don't have much of an issue with it's wicking of my juice, but I still prefer the airflow and flavor just a tad better on the Fresia.

Sorry I missed that. I guess the truth was bound to come out one day though, regarding my reading habits.

My totally non-scientific belief is that many of the issues we have (here in Vapeland) relate to wicking. I've no solid remedies (of course), but there are some atties I need to play around with before I figure out exactly what they want.

Best guess is that those are the female ones.



I guess in this day and age, I need to state VERY CLEARLY that I'M JUST KIDDING!

 

[Katdarling]

Kareful, sweets. It's 2019 don'tcha know.

 

[NealBJr]

I guess in this day and age, I need to state VERY CLEARLY that I'M JUST KIDDING!

By kidding do you mean pre-teen kidding, or teenage kidding... You need to specify what kind of kid you're being like so I can reply in accordance.

But yes, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. People take things WAY to seriously. As far as the wicking issue goes, I think you're mostly right, it does have to do with wicking... however, I think that "bubble" is actually preventing the juice from properly getting to the coil. I think of it as a volume issue in this case and capillary action. I'm sure the higher VG makes for a slower capillary action. I think it has to do more with the capillary action of the air in the bubble and the side of the glass and the build deck, not the juice going up the wick.

I know it sounds scientific, but there's really no easy way to describe it. I think in this case, there is no way to fix this with wicking. I do have some ideas though that might help.

 

[AngeNZ]

By kidding do you mean pre-teen kidding, or teenage kidding... You need to specify what kind of kid you're being like so I can reply in accordance.

But yes, I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. People take things WAY to seriously. As far as the wicking issue goes, I think you're mostly right, it does have to do with wicking... however, I think that "bubble" is actually preventing the juice from properly getting to the coil. I think of it as a volume issue in this case and capillary action. I'm sure the higher VG makes for a slower capillary action. I think it has to do more with the capillary action of the air in the bubble and the side of the glass and the build deck, not the juice going up the wick.

I know it sounds scientific, but there's really no easy way to describe it. I think in this case, there is no way to fix this with wicking. I do have some ideas though that might help.

Are you thinning your tails much? For the Fresia I wick with cotton, but treat it like I would rayon - and I thin the tails quite a lot

 

[DPLongo22]

Kareful, sweets. It's 2019 don'tcha know.

#alsothee

 

[NealBJr]

Are you thinning your tails much? For the Fresia I wick with cotton, but treat it like I would rayon - and I thin the tails quite a lot

Even with no wick, the bubbles will not go past the glass and it will not flood out....unless I tilt the atomizer. Again, I do not think this is a wicking issue.

 

[Jebbn]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I cant find it I do get distracted but I could find any real specifics.
Wide open in dl mode what is the airflow comparable to?
Is it as restricted as an Augvape Intake? Or what airflow setting on a Elevate, Intake, Ammit25, SMM Serpent, Zeus single might replicate the wide open draw of the Fresia?

Does the Fresia get as tight as the Nautilus2, Zenith, Beserker etc? (in case I go back to mtl)

I have pico 75's but no rta's or tanks to use with them.

 

[DPLongo22]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I cant find it I do get distracted but I could find any real specifics.
Wide open in dl mode what is the airflow comparable to?
Is it as restricted as an Augvape Intake? Or what airflow setting on a Elevate, Intake, Ammit25, SMM Serpent, Zeus single might replicate the wide open draw of the Fresia?

Does the Fresia get as tight as the Nautilus2, Zenith, Beserker etc? (in case I go back to mtl)

I have pico 75's but no rta's or tanks to use with them.

Wide open, I have them comparable to the Ares, GoTank, and stuff along that line. Tightened down, maybe close to a Doggy? Not sure. I'm not very good at those assessments, and run most of my stuff opened up.

 

[AngeNZ]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I cant find it I do get distracted but I could find any real specifics.
Wide open in dl mode what is the airflow comparable to?
Is it as restricted as an Augvape Intake? Or what airflow setting on a Elevate, Intake, Ammit25, SMM Serpent, Zeus single might replicate the wide open draw of the Fresia?

Does the Fresia get as tight as the Nautilus2, Zenith, Beserker etc? (in case I go back to mtl)

I have pico 75's but no rta's or tanks to use with them.

The fresia wide open, for me, is similar to at least a 3mm id bottom airflow hole. I vape it slightly closed, the elevate I vape 2/3 closed. I don't have the smm serpent, only the serpent mini - which has a 4mm id hole, I vape that half closed. My preferred air flow hole size is 2.5mm.

Tightness? Only running it in the mtl tube, I found it tighter than a gnats butthole (beserker) which should be perfect for you if you ever come back from the dark side of DTL

 

[DPLongo22]

I found it tighter than a gnats butthole (beserker)

 

[johnpalley]

I was loving my Fresia after I bought it recently, it was the perfect draw and taste for me but now im trying to fix the leaking issue that a lot of other people are experiencing. Just incase I can't fix it I want to prepare to try another tank. Guys looking at this picture below could you please tell me approx how many mm of air flow Im using? This is on the direct to lung air holes side.

I love this airflow vaping at 23 watts. Can anyone of you recommend another tank I could try that's capable of this same airflow? The only thing is I need the tank to be 22mm. I keep hearing good things about the SJMY Doggy. Can that tank produce the same airflow that you see in this picture?

 

[Letitia]

I was loving my Fresia after I bought it recently, it was the perfect draw and taste for me but now im trying to fix the leaking issue that a lot of other people are experiencing. Just incase I can't fix it I want to prepare to try another tank. Guys looking at this picture below could you please tell me approx how many mm of air flow Im using? This is on the direct to lung air holes side.

I love this airflow vaping at 23 watts. Can anyone of you recommend another tank I could try that's capable of this same airflow? The only thing is I need the tank to be 22mm. I keep hearing good things about the SJMY Doggy. Can that tank produce the same airflow that you see in this picture?
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@AngeNZ & @NolaMel

 

[johnpalley]

@AngeNZ & @NolaMel

Thanks!

 

[stols001]

Fumytech rose V3?

It has a ton of airflow, can be vaped at fairly high wattages ,but it's still MTL-y. You can pick one up cheaply, I don't think they were very popular but I LOVE mine. It's a tiny dual build deck but I just put a single coil in there diagonally and I have never, ever had one leak.

You can probably pick one up on clearance for like 18 bucks.

I really like it. It's kind of a "weird" like for me but I do love those things.

Anna

 

[johnpalley]

Fumytech rose V3?

It has a ton of airflow, can be vaped at fairly high wattages ,but it's still MTL-y. You can pick one up cheaply, I don't think they were very popular but I LOVE mine. It's a tiny dual build deck but I just put a single coil in there diagonally and I have never, ever had one leak.

You can probably pick one up on clearance for like 18 bucks.

I really like it. It's kind of a "weird" like for me but I do love those things.

Anna

Your talking about a clone right? This is the one I found
https://www.fasttech.com/product/5650101-sxk-rose-v3-styled-rta-rebuildable-tank-atomizer
I found a link to an authentic one but it was $40. The only thing is I have to be absolutely positive it can produce as much air flow as in the pic I posted. I cant wait until someone tells me how many mm of air that is.

Im curious stols, what other rta's have you used? Curious what your comparing it to.

 

[stols001]

No, it's not the famous rose three, it's the Fummytech rose 3. I think Vapor Authority has them on permanent clearance.

Hmm I don't know I'm a MTL vaper but a cloudy one. Maybe read some reviews. I'd say it's about 1/3 cloudier than like, my next most cloudy tank, probably a Siren V2, with the air wide open.

IDK what would happen if you put in two dual coils and had much lower resistance. I do think it's kind of a tank everyone hates because it's either too "DL" or "MTL" depending on how you vape it.

But I'm really bad at describing these things. I have never put in two coils and cranked that thing. But there is more than enough airflow to do it probably.

IDK I feel like.... really read the good, the bad and the ugly. I don't know what to tell you I make no promises.

It is a weird tank, sorta .I'd imagine with dual coils it might work but I don't really know please don't take my word for it. I don't believe it was a hit.

Guess they finally sold out, it was Vape NW. But here is the tank

Anna

 

[stols001]

If you want to try one, I accidentally bought 6 instead of 3 (long, boring story.) If you would like, I would be happy to send one to try, I'm not ever going to need six spares I don't think. Just PM me and it's yours, although I can't promise it will be tomorrow but I'd be happy to do it.

Anna

 

[johnpalley]

No, it's not the famous rose three, it's the Fummytech rose 3. I think Vapor Authority has them on permanent clearance.

Hmm I don't know I'm a MTL vaper but a cloudy one. Maybe read some reviews. I'd say it's about 1/3 cloudier than like, my next most cloudy tank, probably a Siren V2, with the air wide open.

IDK what would happen if you put in two dual coils and had much lower resistance. I do think it's kind of a tank everyone hates because it's either too "DL" or "MTL" depending on how you vape it.

But I'm really bad at describing these things. I have never put in two coils and cranked that thing. But there is more than enough airflow to do it probably.

IDK I feel like.... really read the good, the bad and the ugly. I don't know what to tell you I make no promises.

It is a weird tank, sorta .I'd imagine with dual coils it might work but I don't really know please don't take my word for it. I don't believe it was a hit.

Guess they finally sold out, it was Vape NW. But here is the tank

Anna

I really appreciate that offer!
I appreciate you trying to help but the Fummytech rose 3 is 24mm. I need something 22mm.

 

[DPLongo22]

I was loving my Fresia after I bought it recently, it was the perfect draw and taste for me but now im trying to fix the leaking issue that a lot of other people are experiencing. Just incase I can't fix it I want to prepare to try another tank. Guys looking at this picture below could you please tell me approx how many mm of air flow Im using? This is on the direct to lung air holes side.

I love this airflow vaping at 23 watts. Can anyone of you recommend another tank I could try that's capable of this same airflow? The only thing is I need the tank to be 22mm. I keep hearing good things about the SJMY Doggy. Can that tank produce the same airflow that you see in this picture?
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Are you only getting leaking when the tank is this low? If so, that could be your issue. I've found that some can be challenging when they get much below half-full.

Or was this the a "results" pic (after the tank had dumped)?