Dark SIde

[Kent Brooks]

Especially in the case of these 1st runs, candid feedback is much more valuable than yearbook feedback (if you know what I mean) We really appreciate your opinions on the liquid - good, bad, or indifferent... we're appreciative of you sharing your thoughts so we can make a determination. No liquid hits for everyone, but our liquid should hit more than it misses - we'd have no way to know unless you tell us! Don't think for a minute my feelings will be hurt, etc... this is the part I really enjoy - watching a new liquid evolve for the community and getting peoples thoughts on it as it evolves.

Also, as a side note, device specific feedback is very much welcome... the number and types of devices has proliferated to the degree that it's literally impossible for me to test every possible combination (which is where all of you come in - most all of the liquid tastes different in different devices) - which brings up another humble request... if you love it, definitely share what device you love it in (with build info) so - for the benefit of the next guy - we can identify some "sweet spots", make device recommendations, etc.

Instead of filling the Russian with Gravity, I filled it with The Switch. Not a fan, honestly - but very different than a dripper - I get a nice smoky flavor from a dripper - it's washing out in the Russian at present (1.1 ohm micro, KGD cotton)

 

[Pictor]

you're not the first to mention that quality - not intended, but hey - it is what it is...

Afraid I won't know it even if it does taste like that! ....still anxiously waiting for mine to arrive - perhaps a tad apprehensive, yet with a tinge of good anticipation
I love the H1N1 and the Wakonda - both used at 15-20% in CB, so the Switch will be used in the same way.

If I don't go overboard at first, I'll set it to mature for a while! C'est ça!

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

Then for the science Clark...Yesterday I tested in my PT with a 1.1 ohm head at 7.5 watts. Today tested on my Reo, single coil at 1.3 on medium strength battery and they were the same savory in your face beautiful tobacco. Going to try it again in a few weeks and see where it lands.

 

[MikeL76]

Darn, I was busy all day yesterday and didn't get a chance to check the site again. Maybe if you don't like it, we can trade again Mike and I'll actually get it out on time this time. Let me know if the BSP gets there all right, I'm hoping you get it today.

Will do and will do. 50 of the 200 was actually for someone else who may or may not like it. So I'll let you know. Mine should be waiting for me when I get off work. Can't wait!!!

 

[keithu2]

While I like the bakery flavors, they're not my favorites/ADVs. Virus is my ADV, with Wakonda and Home Slice occupying the next spots (I guess HS could be considered a semi-bakery flavor).

I'll agree with Gota that the flavor profile of Switch is definitely nothing like the Virus. I'm a little over 24 hours into the Switch now (on my second bottle in the REO), and while I'm still getting a slight anise/licorice taste, it's starting to subside and I'm getting more of a spicy tobacco flavor - starting to see where the cigar comparisons come from.


I wouldn't consider mine a negative review because I don't dislike it at all. It's a strange one for me - the taste isn't blowing my mind, but I can't seem to put it down because it's intriguing me! If a juice doesn't hit for me, I usually put it away for a few weeks and then revisit it to see if it's changed for the better. Can't do that with the Switch, it's one that I'm going to treat like the Virus - vape the hell out of it, ride the changes and see where it goes! The NET in the Virus is a wonderful magical mystery tour as it ages, so this will be an interesting joyride if the NET in it behaves similarly.

I'm sitting here now about half nic-sick...vaping it, tasting it, contemplating it, over and over again, and just can't seem to stop. I have to say that while it's not my favorite (at least not yet), it's definitely the most complex and intriguing (sorry for using that word again, but it's true!) juice I've tasted yet from Nicoticket. It's compelling in a way I've never experienced before. Clark definitely unleashed some weird voodoo magic in this one!

CB', I think he put extra funk in your bottle too!
Mine should be out for delivery shortly - this is going to be interesting . . . . .

 

[Sloth Tonight]

keith you will love it i thought of you as i vaped it the first time (dont know why - but no joke) i have the hunch

 

[a wandering soul]

you're not the first to mention that quality - not intended, but hey - it is what it is...

hehe.. im getting it more and more as i hit it.. and im totally digging it. not to scare off anyone.. and as it is often said.. taste is subjective..

i just got some new gear in the mail.. most notably a magma rda.. cant wait to load it up and see what its like in that.. i hear they are flavor city.


fwiw my testing have been done on a dual coil (parallel) .5ish ohm w/ kgd cotton in an igo-w w/ drilled out airholes and a nemesis.

 

[robvanhooren]

[...] the only liquid I can really compare it to is Tribeca, but even that's not a fair comparison.

won't be here until after the weekend, but if it doesn't have the nasty chemicalness of Tribeca? (which is in my ADV rotation) then that's one step closer to NT being a one-stop-shop. I'll find out next week, I guess?

If you thereafter follow-up the AI expansion to merge ops with the 5P guys and get North-American rights to the UK guy's Pow-wow Sauce?

... then I might as well surrender and just hand you the deed to my house

 

[Sloth Tonight]

If you thereafter follow-up the AI expansion to merge ops with the 5P guys and get North-American rights to the UK guy's Pow-wow Sauce?

nice that was slotherly sloths seal of approval have no idea what you just said

 

[keithu2]

keith you will love it i thought of you as i vaped it the first time (dont know why - but no joke) i have the hunch

LOL - you guys know me too well . . . . .


. . . must hang out here too much or something.

 

[GT86]

OK so the mailman dropped if off today and I couldn't wait to get home from work to try it. So here is a newbies perspective on it. I have only been vaping for 2 weeks and have limited equipment and am only familiar with a handful of juices from a few different companies.
The only topper I had that was empty was a MiniPT2, so I cleaned it out and put in a brand new coil, I didn't want anything masking the flavor so I could really evaluate it. So I filled it up and screwed it on my MVP2 and let it sit for a few minutes to let it wick good.
I am getting the earthy, smokey flavors like Kent described. I am not getting any licorice, pine or clove like others have described. I get a very smooth very good tobacco flavor. It is very rich and full bodied, not overpowering but very flavorful. I'm sure I will taste different things as time goes by and I will update as I do.
I have mostly been vaping sweet creamy liquids in my short time so this is very different but I really like it. I also have a couple of RY4's from different places and I find them very dry and a bit harsh (don't really like them) but the Switch is not like that at all. I also have The Virus which I love but it is sweet so again this is very different.
There is one very very big difference between this and everything else I have vaped, I can do mouth to lung hits with this. Everything else I have tried, when I do a mouth to lung hit as I inhale the vapor hits the back of my throat and stops, I have to give it another very quick inhale to get it down or else I cough. So I do lung hit all the time and don't have any problem with those. But The Switch is so smooth I can take a big mouthful then inhale and it just slides right down. I find I am getting a lot more flavor doing mouth to lung hits with it and it is really enjoyable.
So coming from a newbie without much experience I think it's a Hit!

Sorry for such a long post but Kent said he wanted detailed feedback so I tried to describe just what I am getting from it.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

OK so the mailman dropped if off today and I couldn't wait to get home from work to try it. So here is a newbies perspective on it. I have only been vaping for 2 weeks and have limited equipment and am only familiar with a handful of juices from a few different companies.
The only topper I had that was empty was a MiniPT2, so I cleaned it out and put in a brand new coil, I didn't want anything masking the flavor so I could really evaluate it. So I filled it up and screwed it on my MVP2 and let it sit for a few minutes to let it wick good.
I am getting the earthy, smokey flavors like Kent described. I am not getting any licorice, pine or clove like others have described. I get a very smooth very good tobacco flavor. It is very rich and full bodied, not overpowering but very flavorful. I'm sure I will taste different things as time goes by and I will update as I do.
I have mostly been vaping sweet creamy liquids in my short time so this is very different but I really like it. I also have a couple of RY4's from different places and I find them very dry and a bit harsh (don't really like them) but the Switch is not like that at all. I also have The Virus which I love but it is sweet so again this is very different.
There is one very very big difference between this and everything else I have vaped, I can do mouth to lung hits with this. Everything else I have tried, when I do a mouth to lung hit as I inhale the vapor hits the back of my throat and stops, I have to give it another very quick inhale to get it down or else I cough. So I do lung hit all the time and don't have any problem with those. But The Switch is so smooth I can take a big mouthful then inhale and it just slides right down. I find I am getting a lot more flavor doing mouth to lung hits with it and it is really enjoyable.
So coming from a newbie without much experience I think it's a Hit!

Sorry for such a long post but Kent said he wanted detailed feedback so I tried to describe just what I am getting from it.

yes thank you

see clark could save lives its a keeper

 

[beachroadbum]

so true about mouth to lung. i too often experience the same uncontrollable cough with liquids. doesnt happen with the switch. letting it linger in mouth for a second then out thru nose gives intense flavor. after vaping all day today i find the switch is still too sweet in what i want out of a net but i am really nitpicking here. i know just like virus the sweet creamy fresh will lessen as it ages.

 

[Kent Brooks]

OK so the mailman dropped if off today and I couldn't wait to get home from work to try it. So here is a newbies perspective on it. I have only been vaping for 2 weeks and have limited equipment and am only familiar with a handful of juices from a few different companies.
The only topper I had that was empty was a MiniPT2, so I cleaned it out and put in a brand new coil, I didn't want anything masking the flavor so I could really evaluate it. So I filled it up and screwed it on my MVP2 and let it sit for a few minutes to let it wick good.
I am getting the earthy, smokey flavors like Kent described. I am not getting any licorice, pine or clove like others have described. I get a very smooth very good tobacco flavor. It is very rich and full bodied, not overpowering but very flavorful. I'm sure I will taste different things as time goes by and I will update as I do.
I have mostly been vaping sweet creamy liquids in my short time so this is very different but I really like it. I also have a couple of RY4's from different places and I find them very dry and a bit harsh (don't really like them) but the Switch is not like that at all. I also have The Virus which I love but it is sweet so again this is very different.
There is one very very big difference between this and everything else I have vaped, I can do mouth to lung hits with this. Everything else I have tried, when I do a mouth to lung hit as I inhale the vapor hits the back of my throat and stops, I have to give it another very quick inhale to get it down or else I cough. So I do lung hit all the time and don't have any problem with those. But The Switch is so smooth I can take a big mouthful then inhale and it just slides right down. I find I am getting a lot more flavor doing mouth to lung hits with it and it is really enjoyable.
So coming from a newbie without much experience I think it's a Hit!

Sorry for such a long post but Kent said he wanted detailed feedback so I tried to describe just what I am getting from it.

Spot on GT86!! +1 on the PT2 Mini!

 

[Kent Brooks]

so true about mouth to lung. i too often experience the same uncontrollable cough with liquids. doesnt happen with the switch. letting it linger in mouth for a second then out thru nose gives intense flavor. after vaping all day today i find the switch is still too sweet in what i want out of a net but i am really nitpicking here. i know just like virus the sweet creamy fresh will lessen as it ages.

I definitely recommend exhaling through the nose - totally different vape as compared to exhaling through the mouth!

 

[Andigaut]

nice that was slotherly sloths seal of approval have no idea what you just said [/QUOTEoh you crack me up!

 

[Pictor]

My Switch has just arrived! - not being the patient sort, I had to try a taste on the back of my hand as usual ....nice!
So into a mini PT2 it went and onto a simple Evod battery.

As most will know, I can't use PG much, and haven't used 12mg nicotine for some time now, but, "in the interests of science" I tried it as it came -
I taste a pleasant caramel fresh tobacco with an added flavour that seems vaguely familiar, but that I can't pin down. Can best describe it as a fragrant flavour, but in a 'green' citrusy leaf sort of way.
Exhaling through my nose, I get the caramel and the green flavour clearly, the caramel type flavour strongest.
Nothing else at this point, so remains to be seen how it transitions through it's stages in the coming weeks. Think it safe to say I like it!

I'm going to add some CB to it now so that I can use it without getting short of breath!

 

[MikeL76]

Question for the REOnauts... Last night I left some in my Kaifun, and upon wake-n-vaping this morning, I noticed the floral notes greatly diminished. Actually, the vape seems improved after spending the night in the tank... So, has anyone else with either a tank or more specifically a REO, which I would assume would allow the most air to the juice while loaded, noticed the floral notes subsiding with tank time?

 

[xcrazydx]

OK so the mailman dropped if off today and I couldn't wait to get home from work to try it. So here is a newbies perspective on it. I have only been vaping for 2 weeks and have limited equipment and am only familiar with a handful of juices from a few different companies.
The only topper I had that was empty was a MiniPT2, so I cleaned it out and put in a brand new coil, I didn't want anything masking the flavor so I could really evaluate it. So I filled it up and screwed it on my MVP2 and let it sit for a few minutes to let it wick good.
I am getting the earthy, smokey flavors like Kent described. I am not getting any licorice, pine or clove like others have described. I get a very smooth very good tobacco flavor. It is very rich and full bodied, not overpowering but very flavorful. I'm sure I will taste different things as time goes by and I will update as I do.
I have mostly been vaping sweet creamy liquids in my short time so this is very different but I really like it. I also have a couple of RY4's from different places and I find them very dry and a bit harsh (don't really like them) but the Switch is not like that at all. I also have The Virus which I love but it is sweet so again this is very different.
There is one very very big difference between this and everything else I have vaped, I can do mouth to lung hits with this. Everything else I have tried, when I do a mouth to lung hit as I inhale the vapor hits the back of my throat and stops, I have to give it another very quick inhale to get it down or else I cough. So I do lung hit all the time and don't have any problem with those. But The Switch is so smooth I can take a big mouthful then inhale and it just slides right down. I find I am getting a lot more flavor doing mouth to lung hits with it and it is really enjoyable.
So coming from a newbie without much experience I think it's a Hit!

Sorry for such a long post but Kent said he wanted detailed feedback so I tried to describe just what I am getting from it.

Nice review. One question, how the Heck do you do lung hits with a protank mini? Lol

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[GT86]

Nice review. One question, how the Heck do you do lung hits with a protank mini? Lol

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Thank You!

Well being inexperienced in different equipment I do think the MiniPT has an easy draw. My Nautilus on the 2 lowest air flow holes seems very tight compared to the PT. I take very slow draws and straight into the lungs, seems to work very well for me. I do want to get some better toppers and get into rebuilding but haven't decided where I want to start yet. I know there is a big wide world in front of me and I have just started this journey and have a lot to learn and experience.

Well the Switch is tasting as good this morning as it did last night! I totally agree that the nose exhale provides the best flavor!

Now I just gotta figure out how I can get some more.

Kent, is it all gone or did you just take it down for the weekend?