Darwin at Happy Vaper

[DevilFishPhil]

Yep I've definitely noticed that higher voltage/wattage a little goes a long way and it doesn't take long before I start feeling dizzy. That's probably why for me: Reo Grand @ 3.7V + 1.5 ohm atty = WIN! I can vape myself silly before I get the slightest head rush

 

[Chinner]

One of the first things they mention on the original Darwin thread is that new users should get lower nic juice. I honestly didn't believe them until my first nic coma vaping 24mg at 10 watts...

I've since cut my nic in half basically across the board lol

 

[DevilFishPhil]

I'm sooooo on the fence about the Darwin, I've had it in my HappyVaper cart for 2 days now and I can't pull the trigger.

Chinner, as a Reo specialist do you find yourself reaching for a Reo when you walk out the door in the morning or a Reo? As much as I love the concept of the Darwin and being able to accurately set the wattage, the idea of dripping or using tanks is just not as appealing as a 6ML bottle constantly available to feed my atomizer.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Pull the trigger, and worry about the details later

 

[DevilFishPhil]

Haha I've been trying to convince myself of that - I figured if it's really not my bag I could always resell it at a small loss, it would be like "renting" it...Hmm there's a concept: "Rent a PV"

 

[hotone]

I have both a Reo grand and a Darwin. I have not used my Reo at all since I got the Darwin. Though I have not tried the ST dual coils on the Reo. Darwin is more pocket friendly but ego mega dc will not allow the ARM to close. XL ones work fine but sort of annoying having to top it up so much coming from a Reo.

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[DevilFishPhil]

Thanks for the comment hotone, now I want it even more But seriously though, do you actually find yourself adjusting the wattage frequently enough to justify it? I've always wondered about that, once you find your sweet spot don't you stick with it or do you have a morning/afternoon/evening sweet spot?

 

[Mindfield]

Y'know, I keep looking at Darwin, and I do like a lot of the tech that goes into it. But three things really stop me from buying it:

1) Looks. Yeah, I think it's really fugly for a PV. Moreso than box mods.
2) Can't use anything other than 510 cartos. Anything bigger and you can't fold the arm down to turn it off without removing the carto.
3) Proprietary, non-removable battery. I know, I know, it's got epic battery life, but if I'm ever in a situation where I have no power or access to power for more than a couple of days I'm screwed. (It's happened before -- I'm sure southeastern Canadians remember the blackout back in 2004. My area was out for 3 days.)

I want to like the Darwin. I kind of want to have a reason to give Jack my money for one. But I already have a ProVari and I just can't bring myself to overlook those details.

 

[Chinner]

Well mr. Fish, honestly theres probably nothing easier or more convenient then the reo's. For work and running around, I grab the reo more now, but the Darwin definately gets daily love. If you could only own one VV, I would suggest this one.

Excuse my crude analogy, but if the reo's were my joints, the Darwin would be my ..... The reo's get more love now, but nothing kicks my ... quite like the Darwin.

 

[mopar]

Well mr. Fish, honestly theres probably nothing easier or more convenient then the reo's. For work and running around, I grab the reo more now, but the Darwin definately gets daily love. If you could only own one VV, I would suggest this one.

Excuse my crude analogy, but if the reo's were my joints, the Darwin would be my ..... The reo's get more love now, but nothing kicks my ... quite like the Darwin.

Your funny man, hope your at the meet tonight!

 

[Chinner]

Thanks for the comment hotone, now I want it even more But seriously though, do you actually find yourself adjusting the wattage frequently enough to justify it? I've always wondered about that, once you find your sweet spot don't you stick with it or do you have a morning/afternoon/evening sweet spot?

It's. Not like regular VV, where your sweet spot is different depending on the atty or carto.

On the darwin, you can isolate the sweet spot for a juice, and the taste will be the same no matter what atty/carto/tank you throw on. So no, I don't change settings constantly, but on complex juices youd be surprised what that little wheel will do!

 

[hotone]

I have been adjusting it between different atty/carto types and juice flavours. Seems to depend how hot the atty/ cartos gets at a certain wattage for me personally. I seem to like most up around 8 - 9 watts though some combinations around 5.5 watts.

Also, I noticed sometimes my carto is not working as well and I have pumped it up to a higher wattage. I seem to be able to lower the wattage again after a while of vaping there and it works fine again.

I have two theories on this. Firstly, I have just over filled it and once the excess juice is burned off it performs normally. or B there is some gunk build up on the coils and this burns it off and allows it to work properly again. I need to do some more experimenting to figure out what it is.

 

[Chinner]

I have both a Reo grand and a Darwin. I have not used my Reo at all since I got the Darwin. Though I have not tried the ST dual coils on the Reo. Darwin is more pocket friendly but ego mega dc will not allow the ARM to close. XL ones work fine but sort of annoying having to top it up so much coming from a Reo.

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Sounds like someone needs to sell me a reo grand! Lol!

 

[Chinner]

Haha I've been trying to convince myself of that - I figured if it's really not my bag I could always resell it at a small loss, it would be like "renting" it...Hmm there's a concept: "Rent a PV"

If you buy it and hate it, I'll wear a Habs sweater for a day!

 

[Chinner]

Y'know, I keep looking at Darwin, and I do like a lot of the tech that goes into it. But three things really stop me from buying it:

1) Looks. Yeah, I think it's really fugly for a PV. Moreso than box mods.
2) Can't use anything other than 510 cartos. Anything bigger and you can't fold the arm down to turn it off without removing the carto.
3) Proprietary, non-removable battery. I know, I know, it's got epic battery life, but if I'm ever in a situation where I have no power or access to power for more than a couple of days I'm screwed. (It's happened before -- I'm sure southeastern Canadians remember the blackout back in 2004. My area was out for 3 days.)

I want to like the Darwin. I kind of want to have a reason to give Jack my money for one. But I already have a ProVari and I just can't bring myself to overlook those details.

K let's do this.

1). Yes it is kind of fugly, but function over form for me, and actually once it's in your hands, I assure you. It will grow on you!

2). Gooseneck gooseneck gooseneck! Yeah it doesn't help with the fugly factor, but I assure you anything you vape on the Darwin will flat out out perform anything else. Again, is a maptank on a Darwin attractive? No, but when you take that huge throat pounding blast of flavor, you forget quickly.

3). The battery. Some folks really dislike the internal battery. First of all, if youre without power for 3 days, I would guess that the Darwin would be the ONLY PV out there that might actually last longer then your power outage. I ran 5 ohm atties at my cottage over 4 days and didn't charge it once. Secondly, most don't have a Darwin as their only PV, so even if worst came to worst and your battery died once a year, it's basically the equivalent of $2 a month to have a guaranteed battery, or $25 for replacement after the initial warranty.

 

[Chinner]

And for those wondering, I will be at the vape meet tonight, so if anyone would like some alone time wih the Darwin, I'd be happy to share.

I've even grown a hideous handlebar moustache, just to make it easier for you guys to find me!

Hotone, I'll bring a couple DC's for you to try!

 

[DevilFishPhil]

Chinner post overload!!

LOL at the analogy, although somehow I see the Reo more as the .... in this situation, what with its simplicity and "reservoir", and the joint being easier to fine tune and adjust the "settings" But yes I do get what you were going for there.

I definitely see all the advantages of the Darwin (adjustable wattage, charging and passthrough capabilities) and I personally find it has a certain appeal. Although to add to Mindfield's point about the "arm", I can see how the gooseneck would help, but it certainly doesn't help with portability. Now if I were to pair it to a map tank (need to buy a map tank first) I would always need to remove the tank before pocketing it and re-screwing it back whenever I want to vape.

Finally, can someone argument my logic please:

If the Darwin is more of a "at home" device, given that it's not the friendliest "out and about" PV (I doubt many of you are swapping juices and adjusting wattage whilst driving), aside from the hassle, are there any advantages to say, swapping batteries and attys on a Reo Grand to achieve the same range of wattage?

By the way I'm not dissing the Darwin in any way, I'm really just trying to talk myself out of buying one

 

[Mindfield]

Well, I suppose it comes down to this: doesthe Darwin offer me anything significantly more than the ProVari does that would make that kind of cash outlay worth it? With the right resistance carto I can push 15 watts out of what I already have, insane as that would be -- I mean that's starting to get into "sucking on a powered lightbulb" territory. Plus I have 4 18650s (2 IMR, 2 TF flames), 6 eGos and a pair of 510s, so tons of backup (unless I have another geezer episode and leave the house without my kit again). So other than the convenience of Darwin's smart metering (and I do really like that feature), and even overlooking my issues with it, what more can it do for me?

 

[DevilFishPhil]

Haha Mindfield it seems as though you're in the same situation as me; you're trying to get talked out of buying one

 

[DevilFishPhil]

Sounds like someone needs to sell me a reo grand! Lol!

FYI the Reo Grands are going to be on sale on the 30th and Woodvills and Mini Woodvils on the 27th