Dekang juice, good or bad?

[aubergine]

I agree that a lot of the Chinese flavors really are very clean tasting (simple) and sort of weak compared to a lot of US flavors. I've had very few that I'd call offensive. I started vaping with V4L and I think it's a first rate biz; I send brand new vapers there if they just want a very simple, reliable, satisfying plug-and-play first setup and a buy-it-all-here website (and forum group) with lots of fun and excellent support. Because the flavors are simple they're easy to enjoy.
I remember when that video first came out and I'm glad to see it circulating again - hygiene is definitely not the issue with Chinese juices and I don't think ingredient safety is, either. I just got bored as they all tend to taste the same, "artificial", and seem quite 'meh' compared to the stuff I truly love now.
The choice isn't between "clean" Chinese labs and somebody's filthy backyard shed - there are plenty of US vendors who run a careful, clean shop. And China's factories in general have of course produced some really troublesome foodstuffs (as have American ones). Remember, those factories are producing huge quantities of juice with a lot of workers and all and it makes sense for them to set up that way - but I don't trust a Tootsie Roll more than fudge made locally and sold via a village sweet shop - does anyone, really? When I shop at my local farmer's market I don't automatically envision filthy, dangerous conditions (in fact, that'd be Monsanto et alia).
For me it's six of one and half dozen of the other, and I swing with taste and whatever criteria I use to establish trust in a given vendor.

 

[QusieQ]

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[Mr.Mann]

I'll just leave this here.

That is incredible! How they are making elquid is, at least on that particular scale, unparalleled. I won't bring the actual taste of the juice into the discussion--I guess I did. Nah, it's fine.

I have never had a "problem" with Chinese liquid in the context of cleanliness or anything like that. For me, my issue is Amercian vendors making "Made in the USA" liquids that are in fact merely "Re-Bottled in the USA." Once again, the taste of the liquid does not suit me, but I have never been afraid to vape it.

 

[QusieQ]

What's your opinion of this juice everyone. I've found it really cheap and I was thinking about buying a few 30ml bottles. Thanks.

The poster asked about our opinion. As for those that feel the need to berate me in your own little way.... grow up.

The way to respond to my opinion like a grown-up, was to post the video or your opinion and let me make my revised opinion from there.

BTW, Thank you for posting the video, I was surprised to see that factory was so clean. Did it change my opinion -- nope, but that is because it is my opinion. Opinions don't need to be based upon facts.

Opinion:
Noun
A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact.

 

[kabonk]

I like the 3&5 / 555

 

[generic mutant]

...And China's factories in general have of course produced some really troublesome foodstuffs (as have American ones)...

Absolutely, but how long ago they were is a key question. Given that China's population is four times that of the USA (and its food processing industry as a major export economy at a guess proportionally even bigger)...

Say the last big scare in China was 3 years ago. If I as a European said "I won't eat American burgers. There was that contamination scare 12 years ago..." you'd think I was paranoid, right? Four times the population, four times as many scares: same difference.

Personally, I'm more worried about people who aren't biochemists mixing non inhalation-safe food flavourings into stuff than I am contamination - so that means as a rule big companies are better, and Hangsen and Dekang are probably some of the safest.

 

[wv2win]

..........As an aside, I'm beginning to wonder about the long-term effects of the rather intense flavorings you get in most American e-juices. The PG, VG and nicotine are apparently problem-free, but the thousands of flavorings?

All I know is that when my lungs are feeling tight, I turn to the weak-flavored Dekangs.

This is an interesting point. I have noticed the same thing with strong flavored eliquids which are the US based ones I have used. The flavorings concern me more than anything and many US suppliers seem to go very heavy on the flavorings. Light and subtle flavors seem to be easier on the lungs to me.

 

[wv2win]

The poster asked about our opinion. As for those that feel the need to berate me in your own little way.... grow up.

The way to respond to my opinion like a grown-up, was to post the video or your opinion and let me make my revised opinion from there.

BTW, Thank you for posting the video, I was surprised to see that factory was so clean. Did it change my opinion -- nope, but that is because it is my opinion. Opinions don't need to be based upon facts.

Opinion:
Noun
A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact.

Here is a definition from the same source that would appear to fit your opinion:

Prejudice:

Noun

Preconceived opinion not based on reason or experience.

 

[QusieQ]

Here is a definition from the same source that would appear to fit your opinion:

Prejudice:

Noun

Preconceived opinion not based on reason or experience.

But you are wrong. I do have reason or experience to back up my opinion

 

[chellemmm]

OY. Not another challenge thread.

I, too, am leery of DeKang, It has to do with dog food scares. I know! Dog food has nothing to do with E-juice, but because my brother's dog died of kidney disease allegedly fueled by China-made dog food. The point is, everyone has an opinion based on their OWN experiences. The opinion may or may not be based in "fact," but based on what the individual "FEELS."

 

[Caridwen]

It's your money & body so I think everyone is entitled to vape whatever they chose to or not chose to vape. If someone wants to vape only U.S., UK, or China liquid, or even organic- they shouldn't have to explain why.

Now if you asked me to pay for it, it might be a different story.

 

[Dannyboy5691]

Thanks for the help guys. I think I might try a few sample bottles to see of I'll like them. But I do prefer a heavy tasting vape, although I haven't found one yet. I like a lot of flavor. If its a candy I want to feel like I've got the candy in my mouth. Thanks again.

 

[wv2win]

But you are wrong. I do have reason or experience to back up my opinion

Not that is evident in any of your posts. Maybe in a fantasy world that the rest of us are not privy to.

 

[wv2win]

OY. Not another challenge thread.

I, too, am leery of DeKang, It has to do with dog food scares. I know! Dog food has nothing to do with E-juice, but because my brother's dog died of kidney disease allegedly fueled by China-made dog food. The point is, everyone has an opinion based on their OWN experiences. The opinion may or may not be based in "fact," but based on what the individual "FEELS."

Following that logic, it would be best not to eat any chicken produced in the US due the deaths from that tainted chicken out of that plant in the mid-west. And by the same association, it would be safer not to vape eliquid that is produced in the US.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Following that logic, it would be best not to eat any chicken produced in the US due the deaths from that tainted chicken out of that plant in the mid-west. And by the same association, it would be safer not to vape eliquid that is produced in the US.

This is that kind of logic that simply can't be argued against. If I was on the other side of it, I would have no recourse but to concede.

 

[crxess]

Most USA e-liquids are Not made in controlled Manufacturing facilities. Many are home based or started that way and have grown to warehouse space or become B&M store fronts.

Dekang and Hangsen are specialized e-liquid manufacturers with clientele world wide.

People should really open their eyes and Stop assuming we (USA) are so almighty perfect.

 

[Dannyboy5691]

Most USA e-liquids are Not made in controlled Manufacturing facilities. Many are home based or started that way and have grown to warehouse space or become B&M store fronts.

Dekang and Hangsen are specialized e-liquid manufacturers with clientele world wide.

People should really open their eyes and Stop assuming we (USA) are so almighty perfect.

I definitely can't argue with that. I haven't heard of or seen any videos on YouTube about the cleanliness of US ejuice producing facilities. As a matter of fact, I don't think I've seen any videos about any US ejuice producing facilities period.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I definitely can't argue with that. I haven't heard of or seen any videos on YouTube about the cleanliness of US ejuice producing facilities. As a matter of fact, I don't think I've seen any videos about any US ejuice producing facilities period.

There are are a few US vendors that have crazy high standards and are pound-for-pound as clean, but unfortunately they are far and few between--there's just too too many US living-room, basement and garage mixers. As far as videos go, the only one that I ever saw that wasn't just a lab was Johnson's Creek. I have seen one in person that was not Johnson's Creek that had insanely high standards, but there is no youtube video so it does you no real good to tout it in this particular convo.

 

[QusieQ]

Not that is evident in any of your posts. Maybe in a fantasy world that the rest of us are not privy to.

It doesn't have to be evident, it was SIMPLY my opinion. Obviously, we are not seeing eye to eye, so be it

 

[Dannyboy5691]

There are are a few US vendors that have crazy high standards and are pound-for-pound as clean, but unfortunately they are far and few between--there's just too too many US living-room, basement and garage mixers. As far as videos go, the only one that I ever saw that wasn't just a lab was Johnson's Creek. I have seen one in person that was not Johnson's Creek that had insanely high standards, but there is no youtube video so it does you no real good to tout it in this particular convo.

I wasn't trying to say that US companies don't have high standards. But the fact that US companies aren't the only ones that can produce an excellent product. There are other countries that have high standards for their companies as well.