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I'd say around the third week I started having pain from my cavities, then came the sore in my mouth. But now the pain has passed and the sore is healing. My nicotine intake can vary, must of time I use 16mg liquids. But Every now and then I use stronger levels of 24mg and 36mg liquids. I heard nicotine can restrict blood vessels too but not as bad as a cigarette. Either way I'd rather deal with the pain and go to the dentist then mask the pain until something serious happens and have to go to the hospital.
That's one vicious cycle. . .
and yeah I've consulted multiple physicians and they've all said the same thing about bleeding gums after quitting smoking. Not cause from vaping. They did mention that it varied amongst people but shouldn't take more than a few months for anybody or it is gum disease.
smoking was masking issue with my teeth and gums too it was the reason I quite. It took about a year of 3 cleaning and one root planing to get them back to normal and I have a few spots that will never come back to normal and will always have to have an 3 cleanings a year.
When smoking I used to have to go to the Dentist every 3 months for a cleaning and it was PAINFUL. Now go every 6 months and it's quick and painless. Nicotine stimulates blood vessel growth BUT, while smoking, the chems, tar and other analog junk not only negates the benefits of nicotine but actually causes gum damage by way of coating the teeth with tar with leads to a receding gum line which then leads to various dental issues. Smoking also stimulates bacterial growth in the oral area by way of the tongue. Gray cloudy tongue= bacteria. Pink tongue= healthy and bacteria free. Dentist and Dental Hygienist are AMAZED at the improvement of my oral health and fully endorse and support vaping.
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For small mouths, you can have the dentist remove a set of your bicuspids to make room for your other teeth. I know pulling perfectly fine teeth sounds weird, but I think it's better than putting up with crowding. If you let your wisdom teeth come in, there's a strong possibility they'll be impacted, which basically means they'll come in at an angle and hit the molars that are furthest back in your mouth. If they touch, there'll be a high chance of tooth decay in that area since the back of your mouth is the hardest to clean.
Either way, if you get proper work done, you'll feel your teeth and your "bite" will be infinitely better, even though you probably feel that they're pretty normal now. It's similar to someone who has poor eyesight and finally puts on glasses for the first time. If you get your teeth aligned, you'll feel like a new you.
Kind of funny my first post is on this thread but it jumped out at me!
I am a new vaper and very concerned with my oral health because I had some issues a few years ago. I take different types of meds that really affect the fluid levels in my mouth so I use the ACT combo dry mouth/fluoride rinse. Cavity prevention is a huge issue with me. I am using only Halo juice right now which is pretty high PG I suspect but since I don't seem to have any sensitivity to it as long as I don't overdo it I am fine with that. PG is in my rinse so I figure it's fine for my teeth and I don't want to worry about the effects of VG breaking down and sticking to my teeth since I can't give up my sweets! LOL
I have been upping my use of Trident (Xylitol is your teeth's BFF!) but it gets hard cos too much chewing gives me sore jaws and irritates my TMJ issues. Yesterday at the store I found something amazing which might be a boon to us vapers!! ACT makes dry mouth lozenges now with xylitol!! I bought some and holy moly... sorry to be so graphic but I felt like I needed Noah's Ark in my mouth! LOL They also taste amazing. It would be tempting to pop these all the time but be carful about how much xylitol you consume or you will be in a world of hurt with your stomach! Just keep that caveat in mind.
Anyway, just thought for my first post I'd share my own experiences regarding dental issues and share something new I just found that may help out my fellow vapers. Stay cool! I wish all the best to all of you dealing with dental issues, it's so stressful and can be seriously painful to our wallets as well.
I am a new vaper and very concerned with my oral health because I had some issues a few years ago. I take different types of meds that really affect the fluid levels in my mouth so I use the ACT combo dry mouth/fluoride rinse. Cavity prevention is a huge issue with me. I am using only Halo juice right now which is pretty high PG I suspect but since I don't seem to have any sensitivity to it as long as I don't overdo it I am fine with that. PG is in my rinse so I figure it's fine for my teeth and I don't want to worry about the effects of VG breaking down and sticking to my teeth since I can't give up my sweets! LOL
I have been upping my use of Trident (Xylitol is your teeth's BFF!
) but it gets hard cos too much chewing gives me sore jaws and irritates my TMJ issues. Yesterday at the store I found something amazing which might be a boon to us vapers!! ACT makes dry mouth lozenges now with xylitol!! I bought some and holy moly... sorry to be so graphic but I felt like I needed Noah's Ark in my mouth! LOL They also taste amazing. It would be tempting to pop these all the time but be carful about how much xylitol you consume or you will be in a world of hurt with your stomach! Just keep that caveat in mind. Anyway, just thought for my first post I'd share my own experiences regarding dental issues and share something new I just found that may help out my fellow vapers. Stay cool! I wish all the best to all of you dealing with dental issues, it's so stressful and can be seriously painful to our wallets as well.
I'm 62 and and have 10 of my own teeth the rest are plastic and cast medal (partial dentures), most if not all were removed due to bone loss due to smoking, my teeth one by one would start to loosen up, I can remember one tooth got so loose I was able to wiggle it and pulled it myself, yes it took many years for this to happen and many packs of cigs. Now I'm 66 days being analog free and and vaping, I can tell a big differance in the stability of my 10 remaing teeth, two were a little loose before I quit and now they are not near as loose if loose at all. I see a few posts ""how much money have you spent on smoking/vaping"" well I know I have spent a .... load of money on smoking and another .... load on dential work and just a little cheek pinch on vaping. So by quiting and saving the last 10 teeth I at least have somthing to anchor my partial dentures to, is got to be better than full dentures.
My experience, tooth pains started at 1 Month in and lasted about 3-4 weeks. And then subsided. Stay away from any sweet juice if you have problem teeth. I used thera breath mouth wash through the day to take care of the pain worked like a charm.
It will pass my friend.
It will pass my friend.
I am having sore gum and basically gum pain for 2-3 weeks. Hope it will go away soon. At least i will experiment giving a break to e cig and see what happens. I prefer e cigs to analogs anytime and yes i am one of those accidental quitters.
Would it be less nicotine withdrawal or more nicotine in your mouth or PG.? Oh so confusing.
Levent
Would it be less nicotine withdrawal or more nicotine in your mouth or PG.? Oh so confusing.
Levent
For me, it was bleeding/sensitive gums.
It went away after a long period of being deathly afraid of my teeth falling out if I brushed my teach a certain way or using too strong of bristles on a toothbrush. (My teeth are still intact! LOL!)
Your body will adjust to the changes. If you continued to smoke, just think of the MAJOR damage that could have happened if smoking masked those warning signs.
It went away after a long period of being deathly afraid of my teeth falling out if I brushed my teach a certain way or using too strong of bristles on a toothbrush. (My teeth are still intact! LOL!)
Your body will adjust to the changes. If you continued to smoke, just think of the MAJOR damage that could have happened if smoking masked those warning signs.
I bled before I quit, but I bleed more now about a month after I quit. I hope to see a better change in my oral health.
Having quit smoking for extended periods before, (and then started again), I am familiar with bodily changes that happen after smoking as well as those now that I am vaping.
If you shower and brush daily you may not notice this but one of the first things that happens in the first month is you shed an entire layer of skin in your mouth as well as your external skin.
Your external skin sloughs off like you have been sunburned you may have dandruff and your skin may seem drier but it is really just this massive shed.
As far as the mouth is concerned, it has been under assault from extreme heat and chemicals for years, it is understandable that as it finally heals it is as if you have burned your mouth or it will act like a common second degree burn and slough tissue.
I went through this process for a couple weeks and had some tooth sensitivity that I combatted with sensitive type toothpaste, (which my Dentist says should not be used daily, just when needed).
Think of it this way, you are growing and entirely new body that has been burned and deluged with chemicals for decades, it will eventually be free of chemicals and poisons it has become accustomed to for years. It will take a couple of months for you to regrow a new body. Give it time.
Take this opportunity to see your Dentist and improve your oral care, brush more often, (including the tongue), and take up flossing if you don't. Brushing your tongue is also in order to help regrow new taste buds as they shed cells and will help with vapor mouth.
I don't profess to be an expert, this has just been my personal journey.
I haven't had dental insurance or treatment since I was 18- I hate admitting that out loud. my teeth/mouth are in pretty good shape with frequent flossing and brushing and rinsing.. but earlier this week, I noticed black/brown lines and ridges in/along my molars on the bottom and a black spot formed on the back of my front bottom teeth as well. like crap is seeping from my teeth and gums or something.. have to use a toothpick to really scrape it away.
overall, my teeth are getting whiter, with these exceptions, but my gums hurt too. might be time to pony up for some expensive insurance for a few months.
overall, my teeth are getting whiter, with these exceptions, but my gums hurt too. might be time to pony up for some expensive insurance for a few months.
For bleeding gums, just keep flossing and brushing. It'll go away eventually as long as you floss. For brushing, I suggest having 2 toothbrushes. One with soft bristles and one with stiffer bristles. Use the stiff bristle toothbrush on the chewing surfaces of your teeth, behind your teeth and the front of your teeth using small circular motions. With the soft bristle you can brush your gums by sweeping on your gums toward your teeth(sweeping down on your uppers and sweeping up on your lowers). Don't brush up against your gums. You can do more damage that way. Then floss after you brush. It sounds all complicated, but really, taking 3 minutes to brush as opposed to mere seconds can make a world of difference. Just be thorough.
The only change I've noticed is that my teeth are a lot whiter.
I'm a dedicated flosser/brusher, so that's probably helped me avoid any bleeding issues.
I'm a dedicated flosser/brusher, so that's probably helped me avoid any bleeding issues.
very interesting info here folks, thanks for all the posts. I've tried very hard to make my teeth last for my lifetime, have done ok so far, still have all but 2, just lost one recently. I've been lucky cause the only thing I've noticed different about the teeth and gums since I started vaping and quit smoking is that they seem to be whiter now, but that could be as much from not drinking so much coffee as I did before. I did notice that my tongue doesn't have a brownish film on it anymore, and it's PINK! Today is the two month anniversary of my last cigarette, YAY! My body thanks me, it's gone through lots of good changes since I quit. Vape on!
I started oil pulling with coconut oil and this solved everything. I also dumped fluoride toothpaste we only need that when your developing teeth. My gums are great as are my teeth and coconut oil is a natural teeth whitener.
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