Evic VTC Dual does that. It has a slide-on sled for 1x18650 and a seperate sled for 2x18650. The problem would be that manufacturers/consumers don't want to be locked in to one form-factor.
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Evic VTC Dual does that. It has a slide-on sled for 1x18650 and a seperate sled for 2x18650. The problem would be that manufacturers/consumers don't want to be locked in to one form-factor.
My complaint about vape batteries is on a different plane... vaping as we know it exists since ten years now, and the batteries being used haven't improved one jota.
LiFePO4 are the ideal upgrade (50 Amp 18650), but Far East manufacturers are not willing to access the technology (microspheres built with semiconductor techniques), as the patents are fully active.
For how long we will vape with obsolete batteries? Critics may say that cars still use lead-acid batteries because any replacement, like nickel-zinc, would add three hundred dollars to the cost of a car.
But, I never objected the price of quality mods, so where is my LiFePO4 mod? With two thousand full battery cycles, I don't mind investing some more money...
LiFePO4 are the ideal upgrade (50 Amp 18650), but Far East manufacturers are not willing to access the technology (microspheres built with semiconductor techniques), as the patents are fully active.
For how long we will vape with obsolete batteries? Critics may say that cars still use lead-acid batteries because any replacement, like nickel-zinc, would add three hundred dollars to the cost of a car.
But, I never objected the price of quality mods, so where is my LiFePO4 mod? With two thousand full battery cycles, I don't mind investing some more money...
I would suggest that the average vaper couldn't afford that sort of device more than once or twice.That would eat directly into projected profits. Vape market pretty much has where they want us right now. Bad business to risk that.
I began vaping in 2012, and batteries have improved a LOT in chemistry, amp ratings, and mAh capacity since then. My first batteries were 4 amp 2000mAh ICR 18650. Today we have 3000mAh and 30 amp "safer chemistry" 18650 batteries.
LiPo batteries the ideal upgrade? I don't think so. Much more dangerous than hybrid "safer chemistry".
I'd like to see safer and more powerful batteries, too, but I don't see anything better or affordable on the horizen.
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He's talking about LiFePo though,
NKON | A123 systems ANR26650M1-B 2500mAh - 70A LifePo4 - 26650 size - Rechargeable batteries
that's a different chemistry (and the safest commercially available one), featured in Moochs chemistry vid as well. Their voltage at "full" is 3.2V-3.3V, most manufacturers would have to design a different board (maybe Evolv could get away with just a software update but I doubt it).
There's not a whole lot of choice (at least not from the vendors I frequent, akkuteile and nkon) and they have pretty low capacity ratings (comparing 18650). They're a little cheaper than LiIon, could be due to lower demand from the industry (not speaking of vaping industry).
Sure it's possible to build such a mod and some people would even buy one but the market would definitely be smaller.
NKON | A123 systems ANR26650M1-B 2500mAh - 70A LifePo4 - 26650 size - Rechargeable batteries
that's a different chemistry (and the safest commercially available one), featured in Moochs chemistry vid as well. Their voltage at "full" is 3.2V-3.3V, most manufacturers would have to design a different board (maybe Evolv could get away with just a software update but I doubt it).
There's not a whole lot of choice (at least not from the vendors I frequent, akkuteile and nkon) and they have pretty low capacity ratings (comparing 18650). They're a little cheaper than LiIon, could be due to lower demand from the industry (not speaking of vaping industry).
Sure it's possible to build such a mod and some people would even buy one but the market would definitely be smaller.
Exactly. Try to change the entire vaping industry and see how far you get. Not to mention that using LiFePo batteries would decimate the mech mod niche.
I keep on harping on this, but we need to realize that we are using borrowed battery technology from the auto and power tool industry. No one is making batteries specifically for vapers, and there is not enough demand to do so in the future to make it profitable for the battery manufacturers. (They don't even want us to be using their batteries.) We are quite simply just the benefactors of other markets.
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IIRC, the DNA 200 family of boards have support for them.
That's the catch; lower energy density. Fewer watt-hours in the same package.
That's true. But the internal protection circuitry, the casing they're in, and the dedicated charger they come with makes the whole assembly relatively idiot proof as compared to loose cells.
Note: Me pointing out the fact that this approach is safer than loose cells should not be misconstrued as me advocating for making such a thing mandatory. I intend to use my mechanical squonkers with loose cells until the day I die.
Same here. I'd rather go with replaceable cells. Funny thing about being idiot proof, a friend of mine at work was going to disassemble his pack and replace the batteries inside. He was rather cavalier about planning the process until I showed him a Youtube video of exploding li-ons.
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