DIY Ejuice Q's

[NatashaTMT]

SS is super sweet right? Cap super sweet Ingredients:
Water, Sucralose, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate
I was simply looking for the cleanest I could find

This is making me think about the Sunny Side Up flavors I previously asked about. Almond doesn’t have anything in it Super Sweet doesn’t have. Though butter has phosphoric acid and vanilla phosphoric acid and BHT. I may have to research before writing off completely.

 

[NatashaTMT]

For anyone who doesn’t know and wishes to know, phosphoric acid should NOT be vaped!
(I didn't think we’re supposed to share outside links but I keep seeing it done. So maybe I was wrong. If not, someone please let me know and I’ll delete.) This is informative though...
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/81-123/pdfs/0506.pdf

 

[FranC]

All this talk about sweeteners. Ya'll could be like me and have no need of them.

 

[NatashaTMT]

All this talk about sweeteners. Ya'll could be like me and have no need of them.

When I first started I was putting sweetener in everything. After I experienced the muting effect and simply too much sickly sweet, it made me stop using it altogether for a bit. Funny thing happened... I could actually taste my mixes more vividly. I’d venture to say most mixes don’t need sweetener imo. This being said, candy and dessert types definitely benefit from sweeteners sometimes. Even some fruits are brightened with a touch of sweet. It’s become obvious to me that usually at least one of your flavors in your mix will be sweetened all ready. This has been a learning experience for me I’d compare to salting your food. You wouldn’t go into a restaurant and as soon as your food is served begin dumping salt on. You try it first and decide... perfectly seasoned or needs a bit or oh wow thats bland but with a bit extra salt...etc. So yeah, to each their own seasoning

 

[NatashaTMT]

If I have FA Juicy Strawberry do I need FA Strawberry for a recipe calling for it? I’m just a bit confused here due to the different names such as FA Red Touch... Which is the same as strawberry?

Edit:
Better explanation of this question two comments down

 

[stols001]

You don't have to use the exact same flavors unless you want to. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of strawberry in general, but you will get a different result if you change vendors or omit an ingredient.

If you have a strawberry you like, you don't necessarily need to "double down" on the strawberry (I'm not exactly sure which question you are asking) although I've personally found that often combining two flavors from different manufacturers will give a more rounded experience.

But look, it's just a recipe. You don't have to do anything exactly the same to get a good result. I've subbed out things all the time when cooking if I don't have a specific ingredient. Sometimes the results are dreadful, or not so dreadful, it can kind of depend. But since you haven't actually tasted the recipe for all you know, your substitutions may work out better or worse, but they may be perfectly delicious to you.

The only exception would probably be if it's a well-regarded and similar to a flavor you know cloned recipe of a premade flavor you like. If it's well-reviewed as a clone well at that point (if I was going for that) yes, I would use the exact flavorings recommended in a recipe. I am never personally going to run into that situation, and since I don't follow recipes to begin with (although I have read my share and taken notes) well, I'd say you can probably do some substitution. How it will turn out will depend on many factors, but thinking optimistically, it may likely turn out fine. I mean, don't substitute clove for the second strawberry or anything, keep it within reason but I sub stuff out all the time, because I can't use vanillas and many mixes may "call" for them (and I would love to ADD it, sometimes, but since I am in a "make it work" situation, I sub). LOL, that is actually the first time I have used that phrase, but yeah, just get creative.

Of course, that's USUALLY my advice but honestly, getting creative is FUN. Pit your skills against the "imaginary to you" recipe and decide you will create something better.

Anna

 

[NatashaTMT]

@stols001
Thanks for your response! I should’ve been more clear! I set myself up for failure in the very beginning because I’m quite stubborn I researched, read and retained all I could before starting DIY a couple months ago. I was determined to write my own recipes and I even wrote PAGES of ideas to mix (and named them). I started mixing with somewhat okay results but I had flaws to work out. I tried to adjust this way and that but the results just weren’t what I was looking for. I decided to stop being so hard headed and mix some online recipes. I learned so much from only mixing a few of these. I learned things I do and don’t like and discovered a few of my errors. No matter how many recipes I read, (for me) it wasn’t the same as actually mixing and steeping and tweaking etc. So I’ve gathered quite a few recipes to mix and educate myself. Along the way I’ll keep writing, mixing, testing, tweaking, etc to gage my progress until I feel it’s no longer necessary and only do so for other reasons. Win win imo because these recipes have high reviews and many written by exceptional mixers. So I think I could learn a thing or two! Mixing 101 online course
So, I’m getting flavor orders together to mix the recipes I’ve gathered. I already obtained FA Juicy Strawberry in my first order before I started DIY. I’m needing FA Strawberry for these recipes I’m preparing to mix. Are these two similar enough to matter if one is used for the other and vice versa?

 

[IDJoel]

Are these two similar enough to matter if one is used for the other and vice versa?

They are "similar;" but not "the same."

FA-Red Touch (Strawberry) is a "complete" strawberry; in that it presents the red "ripe" part of the strawberry, along with the "less ripe" (sometime referred to as "green") white flesh of the strawberry.

FA-Juicy Strawberry is all about the ripe red part only. JS is also a bit more potent; and is somewhat less prone to flavor fade.

The one question, that can almost be guaranteed to be asked, on any shared recipe is: "I don't have blank concentrate; can I substitute blank?" The answer is always going to be the same: "Certainly you can; but you will no longer be making that recipe." If that is not critical to you... then sub away. (Some DIYers are only looking for a general blueprint/starting point. While others are interested in tasting precisely what the creator is tasting.)

Depending on the substitution(s), the results can be nearly the same, in the same ballpark, or something quite different. Any given individual may like it less, as much, or more, than the original. And truthfully, the only what to know how they compare, is to taste both versions.

 

[NatashaTMT]

They are "similar;" but not "the same."

FA-Red Touch (Strawberry) is a "complete" strawberry; in that it presents the red "ripe" part of the strawberry, along with the "less ripe" (sometime referred to as "green") white flesh of the strawberry.

FA-Juicy Strawberry is all about the ripe red part only. JS is also a bit more potent; and is somewhat less prone to flavor fade.

The one question, that can almost be guaranteed to be asked, on any shared recipe is: "I don't have blank concentrate; can I substitute blank?" The answer is always going to be the same: "Certainly you can; but you will no longer be making that recipe." If that is not critical to you... then sub away. (Some DIYers are only looking for a general blueprint/starting point. While others are interested in tasting precisely what the creator is tasting.)

Depending on the substitution(s), the results can be nearly the same, in the same ballpark, or something quite different. Any given individual may like it less, as much, or more, than the original. And truthfully, the only what to know how they compare, is to taste both versions.

Perfect Thank you Joel!

 

[NatashaTMT]

@DaveP & @IDJoel
Just wanted to let you know I contacted RC Planet, where I purchased my Badger mixer. They put me in touch with BadgerAirBrush.com who immediately apologised and asked for my address to send me another. So, no problems there and I’m impressed with the customer service I received from both parties. Now, I’ll have two great mixers!

 

[IDJoel]

@DaveP & @IDJoel
Just wanted to let you know I contacted RC Planet, where I purchased my Badger mixer. They put me in touch with BadgerAirBrush.com who immediately apologised and asked for my address to send me another. So, no problems there and I’m impressed with the customer service I received from both parties. Now, I’ll have two great mixers!

Thanks for the update. It is good to hear, that both vendor and manufacturer, did right by you. Glad all is right once again!

 

[NatashaTMT]

Has anyone ever noticed any benefits of vaping natural concentrates with seasonal allergy flair ups and such and other ailments? I’m thinking of honey, anything citrus, eucalyptus, anything minty and maybe even whiskey for a cough. Considering trying but thought I’d bring it to the experts

 

[stols001]

You could try it I guess. I'd think menthol might be your best shot, as far as any change, but I'm not super optimistic, although who knows how it might work for you and your body. There is certainly no harm in trying it and even if the effect is placebo, I'm not sure it matters (I like the placebo effect, and it's a legit effect, without side effects so....)

Anna

 

[dc99]

Sounds like a cool experiment. Give it a try and let me know cause I have bad allergies. I keep a bottle of keylime menthol for when my head gets all stopped up. It does help with that part.

 

[classwife]

Not really a direction to go here...but...
You would have to use oils, a flavoring is just that, a flavoring - and heating would most probably kill any "benefits" of anything.
I switch over to a straight peppermint (it's an oil) when I get a clogged up head - same as eating a peppermint candy.
Eucalyptus would probably do the same.

I have a Kentucky Bourbon flavoring...it won't have the shot of whiskey for a cough impact you are thinking about.
Now...I have used Seagrams in a mix - fumy enough to open the sinuses like the peppermint does

And Honey flavoring just flat out stinks !
If you want healing benefits of honey, eat it - aside from the mess it would make of your atty...

Tip : Never put honey right into really hot tea, it kills what makes it good. Let the tea cool down a bit first.

 

[NatashaTMT]

Sounds like a cool experiment. Give it a try and let me know cause I have bad allergies. I keep a bottle of keylime menthol for when my head gets all stopped up. It does help with that part.

Good to know! I live in TN. So seasonal allergies are almost a definite for most here. I don’t like taking meds that don’t really seem to work much. I might have to purchase a few of these and try them out. I have a couple like honey and the citrus ones but probably could use a few more for a true experiment. Thanks for your input!

 

[NatashaTMT]

You would have to use oils

I switch over to a straight peppermint (it's an oil)

How do you use oils, in tea? Because we can’t vape oils at all, right? I know it’ll clog a coil but I’ve considered if you really wanted to I guess you could use a rebuildable unless it’s bad for your lungs to vape oils. (I know I can google but I trust this forum much more.)

 

[NatashaTMT]

I remember sometimes when my children were younger and got sick with upper respiratory, the doctor would recommend putting this or that in the humidifier water. My mother told me that long ago, when my older sister was a toddler, she had a terrible cough and cold they couldn’t rid. Her doctor recommended mixing honey, lemon and whiskey and giving her a teaspoon every 2 hours over 48 hrs. It didn’t rid her completely but it did boost her system into beginning to get well. Maybe coincidence, maybe not. I have to wonder if it’d be the same vaping these. Though @classwife might be right about heat destroying the healing properties.

 

[stols001]

You can put essential oils in tea once it cools off a bit. Same for honey and lemon. Lemon juice is great for clearing mucus and honey kind of coats your throat. I used that a lot as I was transitioning to vaping, kept me hydrated, and frankly I find chamomile to be super calming way more so than any over the counter product has any right to be.

I think I might make a cup, my morning's been pretty rough for a lot of reasons. The chamomile just chills you out enough that your other symptoms sort of don't seem to matter as much.

Okay kettle, here I come!

You don't want to vape oils, I know some folks make their menthol using actual menthol crystals though, although you'd probably get the same effect by eating a ricola every few hours, honestly.

Anna

 

[dc99]

Good to know! I live in TN. So seasonal allergies are almost a definite for most here. I don’t like taking meds that don’t really seem to work much. I might have to purchase a few of these and try them out. I have a couple like honey and the citrus ones but probably could use a few more for a true experiment. Thanks for your input!

Im in the center of NC. I love the Gatlinburg area. Go at least a couple times a year. Ive tried almost everything and some things work for a while but every couple months I have to switch. Most things either do nothing or they make me so sleepy there useless.