I’ve seen so many people refer to UB’s in the forums etc, I thought it was something I needed to incorporate once I was ready. I bought a hundredths scale so I know my measurements are as accurate as possible. So, I have to agree with your view. The only way an UB might be beneficial to me, other than as @DeloresRose uses for SFT, is perhaps for a couple recipes I’m mixing 3 of weekly. Being I’d have to bump the UB percentages one way or the other to get the desired end ratios, I’m not sure yet if it’s worth it. I thought seasoned mixers had a way to make UB’s work and get the exact desired ratios every time. It will be a great help using flavor bases, etc! I might do a trial run with only one UB, just to try it out. So, for example... If I’m using 10% of my flavor base and 90% of my UB, I would use the same math, to configure grams, you showed (in Flavors Too Dull post) to use for flavor bases etc, right?Welcome to the wonderful grass-roots world of vaping!Because we have no official dictionary, or governing body, to clearly define terms; words can mean just about whatever the user wants. That was why I said those were my definitions only. I have no real way to judge whether the vaping community-at-large defines them the same way.
The way I look at it; "flavor base" is an umbrella (more generalized/all-encompassing) term, that includes both "stones" and "one shots," which are both more intended-use specific.
Generally speaking, I would probably stick to using "flavor base" for general discussion, and only specify "stone" or "one shot" when I was referring to a particular recipe. But that is just me...
No apologies required; my home state is confusion!
Unflavored bases are simple. Make as many/few as you like!
My thoughts regarding Unflavored bases (aka. UBs);
Because UBs are close(r) to what is wanted for final PG/VG ratio and nicotine; the user must be accepting to variables in the final outcome. The more flexible the user is willing to be; the more useful UBs can be.
So, @NatashaTMT, since you are wanting to mix 1.5 and 3mg/mL UBs, I see no major concerns.
- Example 1: If I am using a 30PG/70VG 3mg/mL nic UB, and I add 10% PG flavor concentrate(s) to it; I dilute my nicotine by 10%, and my PG/VG ratio shifts. I end up with a 37PG/63VG 2.7mg/mL nic recipe. Not the moderate shifts (0.3mg/mL nic; and 7% PG/VG ratio) which are probably acceptable to many/most vapers.
- (extreme high) Example 2: If I am using a 0PG/100VG 24mg/mL nic UB, and I add 20% PG flavor concentrate(s) to it; I dilute my nicotine by 20%, and my PG/VG ratio shifts. I end up with a 37PG/63VG 19.2mg/mL nic recipe. Now there is a more significant difference (4.8mg/mL nic; and 20% PG/VG ratio) which is probably noticeable to the majority of vapers.
- (extreme low) Example 3: If I am using a 50PG/50VG 1mg/mL nic UB, and I add 3% PG flavor concentrate(s) to it; I dilute my nicotine by 3%, and my PG/VG ratio shifts. I end up with a 51.5PG/48.5VG 0.97mg/mL nic recipe. This has very little difference (0.03mg/mL nic; and 1.5% PG/VG ratio) which is likely unnoticeable to all but the most discerning.
I mix at higher nic levels (18mg/mL nic), use a wide range of flavoring (from 3%; to over 20% in a couple of old standbys) and am .... retentive about my PG/VG ratios, so UBs have much less interest to me. I would rather put up with the extra 90 seconds to my total mixing time, adding PG, VG, and nic separately; than accept the variables created by using a flavor base. Not an issue of right or wrong; just a personal preference.
Does that help?
Thanks for having the patience to figure out how to help me!
I do using my unflavored (that I have on hand for vaping) for single flavor testing. Fast, easy, and I don't care about ratios, or nic content. Only how the concentrate tastes.
