DIY Flavoring Thread - Part 2

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sparkyth67

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Actually MFS are pretty close in price now. It's going to be awhile before I vape my mixes. I just mixed them this week. I've just vaped unflavored so far.

IDK I just bought 500 ml from wizard for 57 bucks and MFS it is 80 bucks are you getting the wholesale I have never looked at that
 

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I have several of these DID's but from the classy's and there the Kir fanis tanks , i do have the original stainless ones also but like the clear tanks. Eventually MM Vapors is coming out with DID 22 that reportedly is to have a 5ml capacity which i will purchase when the time comes.
Simple and easy to setup.
Recent purchase was the AGA-T+ that came with glass type and plastic type tanks and i do not like as its tank gaskets impart a flavor to my e-liquid cause they make contact with each other unlike the real DID gasket setup which does not touch the e-liquid but i had to try it for the price . I no longer use it or the previous Limited AGA-W version from Europe .

Yeah, I've got just about every clone that's been offered over the last few months and have had to mod every one of them to get them right. I primarily use the genuine DID and Cobra and just play around with the clones when I have the time. I need a clear tank for the DID. A 5 ml DID sounds interesting. I haven't been to MM's site in a while so ill give em a look.
 

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DANG!! I just modded my new AGA-S. I sanded a nut so I can fit three on the center post. I made a 8 wrap with 28 Kanthal. This thing is hitting almost like my DID !

Which one is that again? I have all of em and I don't know which one is which. Is it the little mini one?
 

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Yes its the little one. I have the second version. No threads on the top cap. Just 2 o-rings for that perfect air alignment.

Yeah that's the best atty the chinese have made so far (IMO) and my favorite out of all the Aga's. It looks really good on a few different PV's too and it required the least amount of tinkering. The only thing I don't like about it is that I only ordered one of them and I have already come pretty close the losing the top cap a few times and wouldnt have a spare.
 

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Yeah that's the best atty the chinese have made so far (IMO) and my favorite out of all the Aga's. It looks really good on a few different PV's too and it required the least amount of tinkering. The only thing I don't like about it is that I only ordered one of them and I have already come pretty close the losing the top cap a few times and wouldnt have a spare.
I'm very impressed with it. But it could use bigger o-rings.
 

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Yeah, I've got just about every clone that's been offered over the last few months and have had to mod every one of them to get them right. I primarily use the genuine DID and Cobra and just play around with the clones when I have the time. I need a clear tank for the DID. A 5 ml DID sounds interesting. I haven't been to MM's site in a while so ill give em a look.
As of a week or two back he had the Kir Fanis tanks for €4.00 but not listed on the site as of today just the pyrex tank for €12.00
Trouble is the old long to arrive shipping which used to be €6.00 has been changed to 4 day shipping but cost €19.00 which comes
out to be like 25.00 and is only option now to ship even if one was to order just a set of simple screws -ouch.
Avid vapers in NY sells the clear tank which is the Kir Fanis one but it cost 19.99.

Going to wait on the 5 ml tank and order some spare parts and i'll be set with 3 DID tanks total. For me there very easy to set up cause of the placement right next to the positive post.
I know what you mean about the clones been there done that . lol
 

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So, the diacetyl in these flavors doesn't bother you. Please share your opinion because I am trying to validate my use of them. I am really torn...

Jewels, I can't remember who, but I know of at least a couple people who love the (evaporated?) milk from one of the vendors, aware of the diacetyl, but vape it anyway. No immediate problems, and convinced nowhere near as bad as smoking. Who knows, this whole vaping flavors things is kind of a crapshoot. I have and still do vape oil-based flavors which is supposed to be a no-no, but...still here! LOL. Personally, I go with the moderation idea. If you are only using it occasionally, I wouldn't worry too much about vaping it. The problems arose from people breathing in high concentrations of the stuff all day long on a daily basis. Even bakers breathing flour dust the same way have lung problems similar to asbestosis from the particulates, but that isn't going to stop me from making bread in my kitchen! Also, I'm thinking I'm 60... by the time anything built up to problematic proportions in my lungs, I won't be breathing anyway!
 

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Anybody here tried the cinnamon flavor at DIY Flavor Shack? Jimi, Jewels, JJ, Shilo, Bov...anybody? Inquiring minds want to know if it's the bakery cinnamon we're looking for. :)

Also, I know that some of you have extracted cinnamon. Are you still using your home made cinnamon in your recipes? Just wondering if I should give that route a try.

Hi Sweetie, I have a bakery cinnamon from TPA that is good, but I'd imagine somebody would have mentioned it by now? She has the hot one too, but this one is not.
 

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So glad that you were willing to follow up on this with him. It sounds like he really opened up to you. Which seems to be the opposite of reactions that others got in the past from NF. But maybe they weren't talking to the "boss". :)

Thanks for your willingness to invest your time in researching this Kurt. As others have said, your opinion is respected and I look forward to your thoughts on the safety of vaping NF flavors.

I'm really thrilled to hear this because quite a while ago I talked to a chemist from NF asking him about vaping and at the time he was very leery about the whole idea and afraid of the legal ramifications of people inhaling flavoring because of the litigation happy lawyers seeking to make a big profit. He finally said if there was enough interest he MIGHT consider investigating the possibility of creating some flavors specifically for our need, so I posted a thread here explaining it. I got some replies, even from some of you, who said you were using them already, but there really wasn't a whole lot of interest to prove to him it would be worth his time, so I just let it drop. Now all this time later, it finally comes to pass! Here's the link: New DIY Flavor source?
 

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Jewels, I can't remember who, but I know of at least a couple people who love the (evaporated?) milk from one of the vendors, aware of the diacetyl, but vape it anyway. No immediate problems, and convinced nowhere near as bad as smoking. Who knows, this whole vaping flavors things is kind of a crapshoot. I have and still do vape oil-based flavors which is supposed to be a no-no, but...still here! LOL. Personally, I go with the moderation idea. If you are only using it occasionally, I wouldn't worry too much about vaping it. The problems arose from people breathing in high concentrations of the stuff all day long on a daily basis. Even bakers breathing flour dust the same way have lung problems similar to asbestosis from the particulates, but that isn't going to stop me from making bread in my kitchen! Also, I'm thinking I'm 60... by the time anything built up to problematic proportions in my lungs, I won't be breathing anyway!

CharlieGirl, I'm one of the condensed milk users, and I vape it with full awareness. I'm on the same side of the fence as you, make your own decisions based on what knowledge you can acquire on the subject :)
 

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Yes, I have tried both the Butterscotchx3 and Caramel Cream. I thought they'd rock my world. They're very good as a stand alone, but they're not making the earth move for me. I'll mix and vape these occasionally until they're gone, not sure if I'll reorder. I haven't tried mixing them with anything yet, though. Not much time to play lately...

Jewels, I can't remember who, but I know of at least a couple people who love the (evaporated?) milk from one of the vendors, aware of the diacetyl, but vape it anyway. No immediate problems, and convinced nowhere near as bad as smoking. Who knows, this whole vaping flavors things is kind of a crapshoot. I have and still do vape oil-based flavors which is supposed to be a no-no, but...still here! LOL. Personally, I go with the moderation idea. If you are only using it occasionally, I wouldn't worry too much about vaping it. The problems arose from people breathing in high concentrations of the stuff all day long on a daily basis. Even bakers breathing flour dust the same way have lung problems similar to asbestosis from the particulates, but that isn't going to stop me from making bread in my kitchen! Also, I'm thinking I'm 60... by the time anything built up to problematic proportions in my lungs, I won't be breathing anyway!
 

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It's the same as adding some tobacco extract or tobacco absolute to your mix. I actually like a little absolute with mild or sweet tobacco flavors and a little extract with the harsh or more pronounced tobacco flavors. It's supposed to help give you a little more of the tobacco feel and ease some of the cravings. WTA's would already be in Hangsen flavors since they use extracted tobacco in their concentrates.

Not true according to Jerry from Aroma. The only way to get WTA's is a very specific process, no extracts have any appreciable amount.
 

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Can you mention how/where you got WTA? How much do you use?
I ordered some from vapelicious several weeks ago but haven't received yet....I'm anxious to try it:)

Somebody probably answered you already, but the best (and ONLY) place you can buy WTA is from Jerry at Aroma eliquids. They sell regular juice too so make sure you look at the WTA liquids. They are awesome and the reason I was finally able to quit smoking! They do sell unflavored DIY liquid too, but you will pay dearly for it. Here's the link: Aroma Ejuice Manufacturer of WTA Whole Tobacco Alkaloid Eliquid
I was a menthol smoker and their P-38 kicks @$$!!! I know it isn't for everyone, but it was everything for me!!!
 
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