DIY Flavoring Thread - Part 2

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tdtyler

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Hey, folks...

Any idea how we're supposed to make the best juice without using these chemicals?

Propylene Glycol 74%, Vanilla Extract 11%, Malic acid 3%, 3-Methylcyclopentane-1, 2-dione 2.5% ,Piperonal 1.5% ,Damascenone 0.2% ,Acetylpyrazine 1%,Rose oil 1.5% ,Rhodinol 0.3% ,Eleutheroside E1 5%

This is a list of ingredients from the Dekang website. The obvious ones I recognize, but some of them...

Do you all see "Rose Oil"? How the heck do we get that to dissolve in our juice - even if we had it? I have Acetylpyrazine, but no 3-Methylcyclopentane-1, 2-dione 2.5%, or Piperonal 1.5%, Damascenone 0.2%, or Rhodinol 0.3% ,Eleutheroside E1 5%.

Anyone comment on these ingredients? Are they the molecular description of stuff like coffee and chocolate?

I'm pretty discouraged. It's my own fault, but about ready to quit.
 

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Hey, folks...

Any idea how we're supposed to make the best juice without using these chemicals?

Propylene Glycol 74%, Vanilla Extract 11%, Malic acid 3%, 3-Methylcyclopentane-1, 2-dione 2.5% ,Piperonal 1.5% ,Damascenone 0.2% ,Acetylpyrazine 1%,Rose oil 1.5% ,Rhodinol 0.3% ,Eleutheroside E1 5%

This is a list of ingredients from the Dekang website. The obvious ones I recognize, but some of them...

Do you all see "Rose Oil"? How the heck do we get that to dissolve in our juice - even if we had it? I have Acetylpyrazine, but no 3-Methylcyclopentane-1, 2-dione 2.5%, or Piperonal 1.5%, Damascenone 0.2%, or Rhodinol 0.3% ,Eleutheroside E1 5%.

Anyone comment on these ingredients? Are they the molecular description of stuff like coffee and chocolate?

I'm pretty discouraged. It's my own fault, but about ready to quit.
Those are synthetic flavor compounds. I call it honesty, rather than calling it "contains artificial and natural flavors" like the American food industry does. I eat them and vape them.
 

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Hey, folks...

Any idea how we're supposed to make the best juice without using these chemicals?

Propylene Glycol 74%, Vanilla Extract 11%, Malic acid 3%, 3-Methylcyclopentane-1, 2-dione 2.5% ,Piperonal 1.5% ,Damascenone 0.2% ,Acetylpyrazine 1%,Rose oil 1.5% ,Rhodinol 0.3% ,Eleutheroside E1 5%

This is a list of ingredients from the Dekang website. The obvious ones I recognize, but some of them...

Do you all see "Rose Oil"? How the heck do we get that to dissolve in our juice - even if we had it? I have Acetylpyrazine, but no 3-Methylcyclopentane-1, 2-dione 2.5%, or Piperonal 1.5%, Damascenone 0.2%, or Rhodinol 0.3% ,Eleutheroside E1 5%.

Anyone comment on these ingredients? Are they the molecular description of stuff like coffee and chocolate?

I'm pretty discouraged. It's my own fault, but about ready to quit.

Here is a list of additives found in a regular cigarette.
http://www.rjrt.com/TobaccoIngredients.aspx
 

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Here is a list of additives found in a regular cigarette.
http://www.rjrt.com/TobaccoIngredients.aspx

Holy cr#&!

That's a scary list. I won't ever go back to analogs, that's for sure. I just mixed up a batch of no flavor PG nic/PG and VG and am vaping that. I am just very discouraged and frustrated with my DIY attempts.

Next step, make a batch of 18mg liquid with no flavoring, pick one flavor and do some 5ml bottles starting low and working my way up.

What a disaster! I'm actually feeling nauseous from my last attempt at DIY chocolate or cappuccino or chocolate marshmallow. Considering the money I've spent, I could have 6 months of commercial juice in my cupboard right now.

Gack!

(Oh! BTW, thanks, Sdh.)
 

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Holy cr#&!

That's a scary list. I won't ever go back to analogs, that's for sure. I just mixed up a batch of no flavor PG nic/PG and VG and am vaping that. I am just very discouraged and frustrated with my DIY attempts.

Next step, make a batch of 18mg liquid with no flavoring, pick one flavor and do some 5ml bottles starting low and working my way up.

What a disaster! I'm actually feeling nauseous from my last attempt at DIY chocolate or cappuccino or chocolate marshmallow. Considering the money I've spent, I could have 6 months of commercial juice in my cupboard right now.

Gack!

(Oh! BTW, thanks, Sdh.)

I was discouraged when I first started DIY. I'd recommend starting with some simple single flavor mixes and go from there.

Edit - didn't notice you already had the same idea. Don't give up. It's worth it.
 

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Holy cr#&!

That's a scary list. I won't ever go back to analogs, that's for sure. I just mixed up a batch of no flavor PG nic/PG and VG and am vaping that. I am just very discouraged and frustrated with my DIY attempts.

Next step, make a batch of 18mg liquid with no flavoring, pick one flavor and do some 5ml bottles starting low and working my way up.

What a disaster! I'm actually feeling nauseous from my last attempt at DIY chocolate or cappuccino or chocolate marshmallow. Considering the money I've spent, I could have 6 months of commercial juice in my cupboard right now.

Gack!

(Oh! BTW, thanks, Sdh.)
What flavoring are you using? I would recommend using a super concentrated flavor to start with. Such as ecigexpress Flavor express or tobacco express line. I also think that Hangsen flavorings are very good. The tobaccos have more of a real taste.

How did you make your cappuccino?
 

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What flavoring are you using? I would recommend using a super concentrated flavor to start with. Such as ecigexpress Flavor express or tobacco express line. I also think that Hangsen flavorings are very good. The tobaccos have more of a real taste.

I agree. My experience has been that the super concentrated and hangsen (now that I'm using them at lower percentages) have been pretty much fool-proof for tobaccos. (I haven't explored many non-tobacco flavors in those lines).

For dessert flavors, I've pretty much had the same experience with capellas. Their flavors have been really easy to work with, and mostly seem to turn out tasting like I'd expect based on the name/description. Other flavor brands have some really good flavors, but they've been much more hit or miss for me.
 

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This weekend, I've been messing around with Magic Mask. This stuff is neato ! I've tried it in FA Apple pie, and FA Banana. The flavor is great. But what's cool is that the aftertaste fades away like food. You know how e juice lingers with an acidic aftertaste? Well both of these do not. I can't stop vaping this banana. :D
 

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This weekend, I've been messing around with Magic Mask. This stuff is neato ! I've tried it in FA Apple pie, and FA Banana. The flavor is great. But what's cool is that the aftertaste fades away like food. You know how e juice lingers with an acidic aftertaste? Well both of these do not. I can't stop vaping this banana. :D
Thanks for posting this. I bought it without really knowing its purpose....

EDIT: What percentages/amounts have you been using? My understanding is that it is to be used in very small amounts.
 

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Thanks for posting this. I bought it without really knowing its purpose....

EDIT: What percentages/amounts have you been using? My understanding is that it is to be used in very small amounts.
I added 1 drop in a 10 ml bottle of the banana. The banana was mixed at 1 drop per ml. I added 1 drop of MM to 20 ml of apple pie at 3% flavoring
 

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Any news related to the release of RY6 flavoring yet. I am stalking a few sites......I would buy some premix from Indy but my computer says its not secure. I trust my antivirus. If anyone has any I am open to trades.....:) I am desperate! Pathetic creature I am.....
I'm still waiting on the flavor. I need more bite from my brutal nic bases. Hangsen nicotine is too smooth.
 
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