DIY Flavoring Thread - Part 2

[Leothwyn]

I have mixed 10 different TEs over the last 2 1/2 wks. I haven't found any that I just do not like; however, I am finding most too weak for me also at 2-2.5%. I am still experimenting with %'s, melding, etc.

Same here... well, I started with all of my tobaccos at 3%, but am finding that I want more flavor. I've had mine steeping for a week now, and am just trying the different ones now (except for a quick test of each after a 24hr steep).

I think I like the Fr. Pipe the best so far. It probably has the most flavor, but a little more would be nice. (Mixed some at 4% last night).

Aside from a good, rich pipe tobacco flavor, I was hoping to find a basic, lighter (cigarette-ish) tobacco. I tried the Virginia after 24hrs, but not since the week steep. I liked it. I don't like too much grassy taste in a tobacco, so I was worried about this one. I think I remember there being a little bit of that, if I looked for it, but mostly I got a basic tobacco taste (not enough though).

I don't know what to make of the Win. Churchill. There was a little bit of talk about whether they are hinting at Winston cigs with the name, or a cigar (because W. Churchill smoked one). My first impression was that it is the cigarette. But, initially, I was thinking that maybe it was a little dryer than some of the other concentrated cigarette flavors I've had recently, so maybe it is supposed to be a cigar. After a little more time with it, I felt like I was picking up more sweetness. I need to try it again at a higher percentage. Either way, I like it a lot so far.

My first impression of the blackberry (at 2.5%, 24hrs steep) was that it tastes somewhere between blackberry and grape juice. Not bad, but not what I expected. After a week, the grape juice (or maybe blackberry candy?) part has settled down some. It's still not anywhere close to an exact blackberry flavor, but it's very good, and seems like it will be nice as a subtle addition to tobacco (which is all I got it for). (I'm probably a bit of a blackberry snob... they are weeds around here, and we pick buckets of them in late summer every year - blackberry wine, cobbler, icecream...).

 

[toto1013]

Hey Toto, you know that I am not good with tobaccos but maybe you should try going up to about 5%? That is not really all that high as far as flavoring goes.

I think that is about where I am going to end up with on some of them. I am also wondering now though when you mention the fade. I mixed up French Pipe-5ml @ 2% to start, and it was immediately vapeable. About 5 days later it was really good, so I thought I best get some more of this made up before it is all gone. I made everything the same other than 10ml. It will be 2 weeks Sat and I now have it up to 3.5% and still not as good as that lst 5ml. lol

I have a hard time tasting/smelling vendor e-liquids why I started DIYing. Year around allergy/sinus issues. Taste buds go out to lunch without me.

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

I'm at 6-10 drops in 5ml, with my TEs, not positive the %.

 

[my4jewels]

Got my FE raspberry, cherry, and blackberry today. I am hoping to play a little tonite. I really don't want to use them as stand alones, more accents to a fruity juice that isn't "quite there". I will, however, do some 3ml samples of each so I al least know what they taste like.

 

[LookMa`NoSmoK]

I'm really happy with the blackberry @ 3-4 drops per 5ml, raspberry I believe I'm at 6 drops, cherry might be at 7-8 drops. For me, the blackberry is fantastic alone or with others, imo. I need to work on cherry and raspberry and cherry while paying more attention to what I'm doing. I'd prefer any flavor I have to work as a standalone, as in a mix, otherwise it does not seems to me that the mix could be accurate.

 

[Sdh]

Thanks Salem for editing your first post on this new thread. I think I am going to bump up a few flavors as well. Winston Churchill is going to steep for a long time. I am trying the Dunhill now.

Speaking of droppers. I cannot believe that I stocked up on some bottles from a sale from VJ. It turned out the droppers are useless on the bottles. The old saying "you pay for what you get" is right. I have sent allot of these bottles out as samples. Now I feel bad. It wasn't the whole lot but most of the larger ones I had. I need to pick up some 3ml-10ml bottles.

 

[toto1013]

Same here... well, I started with all of my tobaccos at 3%, but am finding that I want more flavor. I've had mine steeping for a week now, and am just trying the different ones now (except for a quick test of each after a 24hr steep).

I think I like the Fr. Pipe the best so far. It probably has the most flavor, but a little more would be nice. (Mixed some at 4% last night).

Aside from a good, rich pipe tobacco flavor, I was hoping to find a basic, lighter (cigarette-ish) tobacco. I tried the Virginia after 24hrs, but not since the week steep. I liked it. I don't like too much grassy taste in a tobacco, so I was worried about this one. I think I remember there being a little bit of that, if I looked for it, but mostly I got a basic tobacco taste (not enough though).
I don't know what to make of the Win. Churchill. There was a little bit of talk about whether they are hinting at Winston cigs with the name, or a cigar (because W. Churchill smoked one). My first impression was that it is the cigarette. But, initially, I was thinking that maybe it was a little dryer than some of the other concentrated cigarette flavors I've had recently, so maybe it is supposed to be a cigar. After a little more time with it, I felt like I was picking up more sweetness. I need to try it again at a higher percentage. Either way, I like it a lot so far.
My first impression of the blackberry (24hrs) was that it tastes somewhere between blackberry and grape juice. Not bad, but not what I expected. After a week, the grape juice (or maybe blackberry candy?) part has settled down some. It's still not anywhere close to an exact blackberry flavor, but it's very good, and seems like it will be nice as a subtle addition to tobacco (which is all I got it for). (I'm probably a bit of a blackberry snob... they are weeds around here, and we pick buckets of them in late summer every year - blackberry wine, cobbler, icecream...).

I have the Virginia melding, and have kind of ignored it. I do not have the Win Churchill, so will be interested to hear which you end up thinking-more cig or cigar. To me MLB tastes like a light cigarette. This one at 2-2.5% with my 2ohm att'y at 3.7v is not bad, but I am not really looking for a cigarette taste unless as a base to add something else too.
Like you I am probably a blackberry snob as will be able to walk out back and pick them in a few weeks, and I just haven't liked any vapes of something that I have ingested the real thing-chocolate, coffee, fruit, desserts, etc. I think that is why I like tobacco flavors as I do not have a preconceived notion as to what it should already taste like with so many of them. Not that I wouldn't like a drop of blackberry with a tobacco flavor. The first 10ml of the Cherry Tobacco that I mixed at 2% I am enjoying dripping as well as in a Stardust, but it is all melded as one flavor for me. I do not detect a separate cherry note. Just a nice deep rich vape with lots of depth.

 

[sachavaca]

stopped in to check in, see you ladies have moved the funiture. I know i used to enter room thru the last door on the right!.
Well i am still having problems with fruit flavors, seems to make me sick to my stomach (like eating a mc donalds burger).
give em some more shelf time, see what happens. I will mix a few non-fruit and see how that goes. just wondering if 100% vg is contributing to the sickly sweetness that i am experiencing. strange that it does not taste that sweet yet my stomach feels like i ate too much of something extreemly rich after 2 vapes.

 

[salemgold]

I think that is about where I am going to end up with on some of them. I am also wondering now though when you mention the fade. I mixed up French Pipe-5ml @ 2% to start, and it was immediately vapeable. About 5 days later it was really good, so I thought I best get some more of this made up before it is all gone. I made everything the same other than 10ml. It will be 2 weeks Sat and I now have it up to 3.5% and still not as good as that lst 5ml. lol

I have a hard time tasting/smelling vendor e-liquids why I started DIYing. Year around allergy/sinus issues. Taste buds go out to lunch without me.

It could just be me with the fading. I too am suffering from allergies plus I used a different nic that I had a sample of to mix these. I do not like to taste the nic in my mix and I am starting to be able to taste it. Could be that the nic taste is just getting stronger so I am not 100% positive that they actually faded. I am mixing some up with my RTS nic tonight to see what happens.

 

[salemgold]

Got my FE raspberry, cherry, and blackberry today. I am hoping to play a little tonite. I really don't want to use them as stand alones, more accents to a fruity juice that isn't "quite there". I will, however, do some 3ml samples of each so I al least know what they taste like.

That was quick, M4. Please do post back and let us know what you think.

 

[salemgold]

stopped in to check in, see you ladies have moved the funiture. I know i used to enter room thru the last door on the right!.
Well i am still having problems with fruit flavors, seems to make me sick to my stomach (like eating a mc donalds burger).
give em some more shelf time, see what happens. I will mix a few non-fruit and see how that goes. just wondering if 100% vg is contributing to the sickly sweetness that i am experiencing. strange that it does not taste that sweet yet my stomach feels like i ate too much of something extreemly rich after 2 vapes.

There are some vendors juice that does that exact same thing to me. The taste is too sweet and I actually get nauseated from it. VG does have a sweet taste so that might at least contribute.
Hopefully, you are using a high quality VG. I have had VG that tasted like dirty socks smell, VG that tasted like pure sugar. I try to stick to using DOW VG because that seems to work best for me.

That stuff that people get from Walmart, I think it is Humco? I can not use at all. But that is just me. I see others that seem to like it.

 

[stashbldr]

It could just be me with the fading. I too am suffering from allergies plus I used a different nic that I had a sample of to mix these. I do not like to taste the nic in my mix and I am starting to be able to taste it. Could be that the nic taste is just getting stronger so I am not 100% positive that they actually faded. I am mixing some up with my RTS nic tonight to see what happens.

I'd love to hear your results with the RTS. I've never used RTS, I use MFS and have been happy with it. But I keep hearing such good things about RTS and have been thinking about trying some, to see if there's a difference..

 

[stashbldr]

There are some vendors juice that does that exact same thing to me. The taste is too sweet and I actually get nauseated from it. VG does have a sweet taste so that might at least contribute.
Hopefully, you are using a high quality VG. I have had VG that tasted like dirty socks smell, VG that tasted like pure sugar. I try to stick to using DOW VG because that seems to work best for me.

That stuff that people get from Walmart, I think it is Humco? I can not use at all. But that is just me. I see others that seem to like it.

I cant use Humco either, it made me sick to my stomach. I use Essential Depot's VG, I buy it online.

 

[sachavaca]

There are some vendors juice that does that exact same thing to me. The taste is too sweet and I actually get nauseated from it. VG does have a sweet taste so that might at least contribute.
Hopefully, you are using a high quality VG. I have had VG that tasted like dirty socks smell, VG that tasted like pure sugar. I try to stick to using DOW VG because that seems to work best for me.

That stuff that people get from Walmart, I think it is Humco? I can not use at all. But that is just me. I see others that seem to like it.

Did I ever tell you that I stalked you for a while. got mine at rts (DOW), .


Dirty socks does sound tempting but I was more in the market for dirt flavor lol

 

[salemgold]

I'd love to hear your results with the RTS. I've never used RTS, I use MFS and have been happy with it. But I keep hearing such good things about RTS and have been thinking about trying some, to see if there's a difference..

I have been using RTS pretty much since they started selling at ECF. It is truly the cleanest nic that I have ever tasted. His VG and PG is DOW so it is not only USP, but kosher too.

Now I do have to tell you that I do not at all like MFS. I know that it is not bad nic and some people really like that bite that the taste gives, but I truly can not stand it. So, if you like the way that MFS tastes, you may not care for RTS.

 

[salemgold]

Did I ever tell you that I stalked you for a while. got mine at rts (DOW), .


Dirty socks does sound tempting but I was more in the market for dirt flavor lol

LOL, I think that you did mention that. There is a vendor here at ECF that is very popular. I know that they use one of the VGs that I can't tolerate because I taste it in all of their juice flavors that I have tried. Dirty sock smell is the only description that I was able to come up with. But, they have a huge fan base. So, somebody likes them lol

 

[stashbldr]

I have been using RTS pretty much since they started selling at ECF. It is truly the cleanest nic that I have ever tasted. His VG and PG is DOW so it is not only USP, but kosher too.

Now I do have to tell you that I do not at all like MFS. I know that it is not bad nic and some people really like that bite that the taste gives, but I truly can not stand it. So, if you like the way that MFS tastes, you may not care for RTS.

hmmmmmm, very interesting that you say MFS has a "bite" to it. I've never used any other nic, but I must say that my DIY has always had a sort of "scratchy" feeling to it and I've blamed it on other things thinking maybe it was the PG or the VG or one of the flavorings, but maybe this whole time it's been from the nic itself. Well now I need to go order some RTS right away.

 

[sachavaca]

I started trusting your judgement a while back and made my purchases acordingly, the jolly rancher is what does not agree with me. apple was better than blackberry for me but still will not work. Going to try a citrus flavor too see if thats better

 

[salemgold]

hmmmmmm, very interesting that you say MFS has a "bite" to it. I've never used any other nic, but I must say that my DIY has always had a sort of "scratchy" feeling to it and I've blamed it on other things thinking maybe it was the PG or the VG or one of the flavorings, but maybe this whole time it's been from the nic itself. Well now I need to go order some RTS right away.

I truly never ever want to hurt any vendors business by stating that I don't like their product because everyones tastes are so different, but I really do not like the taste of MFS nic.

OTOH, Kurt, here at ECF has been at this awhile and loves MFS. Says that he gets better TH from their nic.

 

[Sdh]

Pick up some vg at RTS. I have heard it is better than essential depots vg. Just rumor on the streets though.