DIY Flavoring Thread - Part 2

[Jimi D.]

I copied and pasted some of the Chinese named TE flavors. These are Chinese cig brands.
My guess is that the tobacco base is different, because they mimicked there own cig tobacco taste. That's why the American cig brands taste almost identical. The American tobacco base tastes good. It was different at the time, when I first tried them . To me the American T. base tastes like a fresh pack of cigs smell.
The Chinese T base has a closer taste to smoking, but of course minus the metallic, ashy, licking an exhaust pipe taste.

I hope I'm right! I just need to order a few more! LOL

 

[Sdh]

Okay today I finally had time to concentrate on a few flavors:

YunYan: this flavor was hard to detect since it presents with extra sweetness. My palate detects a light flue cured tobacco. Most prominent notes are fruity and tea like.) Very light on the tobacco taste. Mixed at 3% and 80/20 base.

Black n milk: Mixed at 2% because I know it has cocoa as a main flavor. Cocoa, cream and tobacco. Upon inhalation the main flavors I taste are cocoa and cream. Upon exhale I do detect a light tobacco taste. Very light to me.
80/20 base and 24mg.

Just to note: I have no problems with throat hit due to my equipment. I am ranging 4.3 5.1 for my FE & TE flavors

Update: the yunyan is addicting. I have no clue why! It's just mellow and addicting. Thank gawd I have a vivi nova.

 

[Leothwyn]

Speaking of the odd chinese names... there are a few other names that I don't know what to make of. They don't seem like chinese, but I can't think of what they would be references to:

L&B
Laark
Peice

Anyone tried these? I could see L&B being an abbreviation for some tobacco that I'm not familiar with - something like B&M or B&H. I could picture there being some US or European cig called Lark too. But Piece? That seems like an odd name.

I wish my budget wasn't so small lately. I'd try them all.

 

[salemgold]

Speaking of the odd chinese names... there are a few other names that I don't know what to make of. They don't seem like chinese, but I can't think of what they would be references to:

L&B
Laark
Peice

Anyone tried these? I could see L&B being an abbreviation for some tobacco that I'm not familiar with - something like B&M or B&H. I could picture there being some US or European cig called Lark too. But Piece? That seems like an odd name.

I wish my budget wasn't so small lately. I'd try them all.

Those are USA.

Lambert & Butler
Lark
Peace

You may not have seen them, they are older brands but are USA cigs.

 

[salemgold]

If I remember correctly, the Lark had a charcoal thing in the filter that I did not care for. Not sure if the taste would be in the flavoring. L&B was not bad and I am not sure about Peace.

Hope that helps.

Matter of fact, they used to call them charcoal filters lol My memory is returning

 

[Leothwyn]

Thanks! That's good to know. I had a feeling that the first two might be something like that. 'Piece' just made me think of a peace pipe, which didn't make much sense. I'm not familiar with many tobacco brands. When I smoked I just bought the cigarettes that I smoked, and didn't pay attention to much else. I like the cig type TE and VZ flavors that I've tried, so I'll have to add those to my list.

Those are USA.

Lambert & Butler
Lark
Peace

You may not have seen them, they are older brands but are USA cigs.

 

[salemgold]

Thanks! That's good to know. I had a feeling that the first two might be something like that. 'Piece' just made me think of a peace pipe, which didn't make much sense. I'm not familiar with many tobacco brands. When I smoked I just bought the cigarettes that I smoked, and didn't pay attention to much else. I like the cig type TE and VZ flavors that I've tried, so I'll have to add those to my list.

Istarted smoking at 11 so at that time, anything that I could get my hands on were my brand lol
People that I babysat for had different tastes, what can I say

 

[terrilg70]

one thing I have noticed about all the mixes I made they all end up with a sweet undertone as they are aging, even somewhat at the begining. I think it may be my base liquid. I use 70pg/30vg from RTS. Is there other brands that so not have sucha sweet undertone?

 

[Jimi D.]

one thing I have noticed about all the mixes I made they all end up with a sweet undertone as they are aging, even somewhat at the begining. I think it may be my base liquid. I use 70pg/30vg from RTS. Is there other brands that so not have sucha sweet undertone?

That's what I'm working on also! RTS used to have a VG that was less sweet. It's a possibility, that it could be from DOW.

 

[FranC]

I haven't mixed all that much yet but the essence line is a hit so far. No probelms with sweet.

 

[salemgold]

one thing I have noticed about all the mixes I made they all end up with a sweet undertone as they are aging, even somewhat at the begining. I think it may be my base liquid. I use 70pg/30vg from RTS. Is there other brands that so not have sucha sweet undertone?

All of the Chinese flavorings that I have do that too and I could live without it. It is the flavorings and not the base. I have used 3 different bases with these flavors. They all have a sweetish undertone that I feel gets stronger with steeping although some think it gets weaker with age

 

[salemgold]

I haven't mixed all that much yet but the essence line is a hit so far. No probelms with sweet.

The tobaccos that I have tried don't seem to have it. The non tobaccos have something that they use as a sweetener that I can't quite pinpoint but is there for sure. Some are worse than others but most are candy like to me because of it.

Candy like is not always a bad thing in my book

 

[Sdh]

one thing I have noticed about all the mixes I made they all end up with a sweet undertone as they are aging, even somewhat at the begining. I think it may be my base liquid. I use 70pg/30vg from RTS. Is there other brands that so not have sucha sweet undertone?

I have this for sick sweet tobacco's. Yes I have used it. It does work. However, I also find plain vinegar (a few drops) does the same. Just thought I would share this with you. Most people love sweet. I don't. I can tolerate some but if its a sick sweet-forget it. I am toning the beast.
http://www.ecigexpress.com/flavorin...vourart-select-size-p-631?number_of_uploads=0

 

[terrilg70]

I have this for sick sweet tobacco's. Yes I have used it. It does work. However, I also find plain vinegar (a few drops) does the same. Just thought I would share this with you. Most people love sweet. I don't. I can tolerate some but if its a sick sweet-forget it. I am toning the beast.
http://www.ecigexpress.com/flavorin...vourart-select-size-p-631?number_of_uploads=0

Thanks for the information. I actually, love sweet juices: however, I want my tobacco to be tobacco and not sweet with and undertone of tobacco.

 

[Sdh]

Thanks for the information. I actually, love sweet juices: however, I want my tobacco to be tobacco and not sweet with and undertone of tobacco.

Exactly why I tone done some tobaccos. Not all but some are really sweet.I can handle lightly sweet.

 

[FranC]

Sdh you must have my tastebuds. Lighty sweet is all I can stand.

 

[salemgold]

Sdh you must have my tastebuds. Lighty sweet is all I can stand.

I think that there are many people like that. It makes me sick to my stomach if it is too sweet and I have talked to tons of people that do the same.

When I first started vaping, I loved a particular vendors juice. He gets his flavoring from India. Anyway, as much as I loved it, my stomach would start rolling quickly with most of his fruits. Took me awhile to figure out is what they use to sweeten the flavors with.

That is partly why I never use any sweetener or EM in my juices. I use other flavors to sweeten rather than sweeteners. EM is slightly sickening to me too although some do love it.

FYI- I have used vinegar with some success but, I think it eats away at the heating coil after awhile. My cartos get black fast with the mixes that I added it to.

 

[Jimi D.]

All of the Chinese flavorings that I have do that too and I could live without it. It is the flavorings and not the base. I have used 3 different bases with these flavors. They all have a sweetish undertone that I feel gets stronger with steeping although some think it gets weaker with age

I've made the 234 Sam Soe at the same percentages. Two different VG brands. One is sweeter than the other. VG also plays a role in making the juice sweeter.

 

[salemgold]

I've made the 234 Sam Soe at the same percentages. Two different VG brands. One is sweeter than the other. VG also plays a role in making the juice sweeter.

I have made at least 10 of these fruits with VZ, ECX and RTS bases including various VGs and they all have that underlying sweetness too them. There are too many people talking about that with both the VZ and ECX fruits for it to all be the VG that we are using. I know that VG adds sweetness but these flavors all have some type of sweetener already there that I have tried.
I used 100%PG last week and that taste is there.

The Cherry is one of the worst as far as that taste goes IMO. I like it but that fake sweetener taste is heavy in it and I can't do much of it.

I was having a horrible time with shortness of breath for a few weeks and tried everything new to eliminate if it was something in my vape.
Single coil cartos, 100% VG, 100% PG, different brands of nic/pg/vg, flavorings. I ended up having pnuemonia in the end but my point is that I have at least 50 of these flavors that I have tried every combo I could with. The sweetness is in the flavoring.

 

[Sdh]

LOL the ginseng is traveling to its new owner. (Charliegirl) I did package in three zip-lock bags. I could still smell the ginseng in the car. Its 104 degrees on my deck. In my car which has a black interior it reached over 120 degrees. I put my tube in my thermos while shopping today. Of course I have ice packs so it did not overheat or get too cold.

I went to PO first because I didn't want the flavoring to sit in a hot car.