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druckle

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Not your fault Tony,

I am just trying to keep up with the big kids. Besides how can I let a Conquistador get one up on me. :lol:

Actually you and Duane were having far to much fun with the new toy for me not to join in. :thumbs:

Actually what do you want to bet that Duane is sitting in front of Escribe right now trying to OD while tuning his wicking skills.
George

How did you know? Is my webcam turned on?

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Not your fault Tony,

I am just trying to keep up with the big kids. Besides how can I let a Conquistador get one up on me. [emoji38]

Actually you and Duane were having far to much fun with the new toy for me not to join in. :thumbs:

Actually what do you want to bet that Duane is sitting in front of Escribe right now trying to OD while tuning his wicking skills.
Well that's my point, we dragged you a little into this insanity.

Anyway, I'm sure hana will make it up for you first thing Monday.

I would also get a few xt30 connectors (do they fit in the v200 case?) so you can dump that jst rcy connector in a few weeks (after warranty expires) and sleep better knowing you don't have a bottleneck in your mod :)

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    After a botched Win 10 install I swore I wouldn't do it again for a long time. It cost me two days of yuck with only 2 hours of sleep.

    Now my weak follow through has me typing on a Win 10 laptop only two days later.
    LOL!........
    I've wondered about this.
    My computer keeps telling me it's time to upgrade.
    I think I'll wait till next year!.............
     

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    Well that's my point, we dragged you a little into this insanity.

    Anyway, I'm sure hana will make it up for you first thing Monday.

    I would also get a few xt30 connectors (do they fit in the v200 case?) so you can dump that jst rcy connector in a few weeks (after warranty expires) and sleep better knowing you don't have a bottleneck in your mod :)

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    I was looking at the XT30s and I have check dimensions yet but I will do that. I have had too many dimensional surprises do to looking at just the pictures. I just hate read the fine print.
     
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    LOL!........
    I've wondered about this.
    My computer keeps telling me it's time to upgrade.
    I think I'll wait till next year!.............
    If you let mother Microsoft have her way with you and do the in-place automatic install you'll be golden. It's only when you get creative and think you have a way to save a little time that she turns into a real monster.

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    LOL!........
    I've wondered about this.
    My computer keeps telling me it's time to upgrade.
    I think I'll wait till next year!.............
    Oh mine is better:

    July 30th: hey it's time to upgrade to Windows 10

    July 31st: oh, we're sorry, your graphics card is now incompatible with Windows 10.

    What...?

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    Tony.

    Well like you I'm a man of strong resolve and weak follow through. After a botched Win 10 install I swore I wouldn't do it again for a long time. It cost me two days of yuck with only 2 hours of sleep.

    Now my weak follow through has me typing on a Win 10 laptop only two days later.

    Let's hear it for weak follow through to strong resolve! :D

    Duane
    My laptop started life as a chromebook, almost a glorified tablet with a keyboard, great for web browsing but not much else. Over time I did more and more mods to it and now iv ditched chrome os entirely and now running Linux Ubuntu 15.04 with a 4.0.5 Linux kernel I think it has. From there iv used virtual box to set up a virtual windows 7 desktop and from there mucked about with it to get USB devices to work, hardware acceleration, full resolution for the screen, set up fastboot for android etc, steam games. Mostly I decided to ditch chrome os because my heart is set on a dna 200 and iv already downloaded escribe and keep it up to date in my virtual machine. Iv played with the steam engine csv's and made a load of custom materials for the coils.

    After some talking with Tony I think I'm going to try and make my first box mod using the shapeways beta boxes which look very very nice. I haven't soldered since iv left school so I will invest in a solder iron and practice soldering on boards from an old windows desktop I have no need for anymore, its been retired a year and I knew I kept it for good reason. It should be ideal to practice on I think until I feel brave enough and have confidence I can do it well enough on my own dna 200 board.

    I do have a question, iv seen these things called 'helping hands' which is like crocodile clips attached to poles and a base. Would something like that be much help? Also I am guessing the battery should be the last thing to solder to the board as space might get tight trying to solder in the box?

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    My laptop started life as a chromebook, almost a glorified tablet with a keyboard, great for web browsing but not much else. Over time I did more and more mods to it and now iv ditched chrome os entirely and now running Linux Ubuntu 15.04 with a 4.0.5 Linux kernel I think it has. From there iv used virtual box to set up a virtual windows 7 desktop and from there mucked about with it to get USB devices to work, hardware acceleration, full resolution for the screen, set up fastboot for android etc, steam games. Mostly I decided to ditch chrome os because my heart is set on a dna 200 and iv already downloaded escribe and keep it up to date in my virtual machine. Iv played with the steam engine csv's and made a load of custom materials for the coils.

    After some talking with Tony I think I'm going to try and make my first box mod using the shapeways beta boxes which look very very nice. I haven't soldered since iv left school so I will invest in a solder iron and practice soldering on boards from an old windows desktop I have no need for anymore, its been retired a year and I knew I kept it for good reason. It should be ideal to practice on I think until I feel brave enough and have confidence I can do it well enough on my own dna 200 board.

    I do have a question, iv seen these things called 'helping hands' which is like crocodile clips attached to poles and a base. Would something like that be much help? Also I am guessing the battery should be the last thing to solder to the board as space might get tight trying to solder in the box?

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    I think it's a good idea to have something to hold things in place. I repaired a power out wire on a DNA while it was still in the enclosure and I don't think I would have been able to do that without having the enclosure clamped down so it wouldn't move around as I manipulated that thick wire. I also think soldering the balance charger wires and the battery power first outside the case makes sense. Then the screen and board can be inserted in the case and the ground and power out wires can be connected. As long as the case is fixed in place it's not hard to do those final solder connections. I used some mini plastic C clamps to hold the case on a board and that worked fine for me. I just happened to have the clamps around so I was lucky.

    I think your idea of practicing on an old computer board is a great idea. I didn't think of that and I would have approached the whole thing with a lot more confidence if I had practiced first. Getting the right size tip etc is probably really important and I didn't have anything other than guesses to go on

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    iv seen these things called 'helping hands' which is like crocodile clips attached to poles and a base. Would something like that be much help?

    You have 8 wires to solder for this mod and four of them are darn near battleship chain. Unless you think you will take up modding as a hobby, you probably will not have any issue without the helping hands.
     

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    You have 8 wires to solder for this mod and four of them are darn near battleship chain. Unless you think you will take up modding as a hobby, you probably will not have any issue without the helping hands.
    I don't really know if I will keep doing it after if I decide to go ahead with this. I might but I would guess it really comes down to how much success I have really. I just want to be prepared and educate myself and have everything I could need before hand. I am already very much into the hobbyist side of vaping making my own juice and making wicks and coils for my tanks and drippers and certainly enjoy the money savings from those. When you say battleship chain I don't quite follow what you mean, like 4 places to solder very close together all in line? Il have to get myself over to the early adopter forum and have a look at some diagrams if there is some. Im off to bed now so will reply to any quotes tomorrow. Thanks for your advice ladys & gents

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    My laptop started life as a chromebook, almost a glorified tablet with a keyboard, great for web browsing but not much else. Over time I did more and more mods to it and now iv ditched chrome os entirely and now running Linux Ubuntu 15.04 with a 4.0.5 Linux kernel I think it has. From there iv used virtual box to set up a virtual windows 7 desktop and from there mucked about with it to get USB devices to work, hardware acceleration, full resolution for the screen, set up fastboot for android etc, steam games. Mostly I decided to ditch chrome os because my heart is set on a dna 200 and iv already downloaded escribe and keep it up to date in my virtual machine. Iv played with the steam engine csv's and made a load of custom materials for the coils.

    After some talking with Tony I think I'm going to try and make my first box mod using the shapeways beta boxes which look very very nice. I haven't soldered since iv left school so I will invest in a solder iron and practice soldering on boards from an old windows desktop I have no need for anymore, its been retired a year and I knew I kept it for good reason. It should be ideal to practice on I think until I feel brave enough and have confidence I can do it well enough on my own dna 200 board.

    I do have a question, iv seen these things called 'helping hands' which is like crocodile clips attached to poles and a base. Would something like that be much help? Also I am guessing the battery should be the last thing to solder to the board as space might get tight trying to solder in the box?

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    The best method (for me) to build one of these 3d beta boxes is:

    1. Solder 16awg red silicon wire into the positive pole of a fdv connector. Leave two inches long (4/5cm) an cut the wire.

    2. Solder a 16awg black silicon wire to the fdv ground ring. Leave again 2 inches of wire and cut off the rest.

    3. Install the 510 connector and tighten down the nut well. Make sure the black ground wire is on the left side of the connector, near the bottom (farther away from you)

    4. Place the lipo (turnigy nano tech 950mah or equivalent) on the back of the board, wires facing down but exiting from the lipo closer to you i.e. You want the wires running along the lipo straight to the board (20mm long) . Not directly from the corner of the lipo to the board. Tape the battery to the board temporarily.

    5. Cut each battery wire (4 + 2) separately so that it reaches the board plus 3 or 4mm. Isolate each wire you cut with some painters tape.

    6. Start to solder each balance wire straight to the board. Carefully avoiding touching close by lanes or touching other solder joints.

    7. Solder positive power wire to the board.

    8. Install the oled screen

    9. Solder the ground wire. Board is now live! Be double careful. You can now remove the tape that holds the lipo in place.

    10. Insert the board diagonally into the enclosure (top part first) and find a way to secure the board temporarily at an angle of 30 degrees or so.

    11. Place screen in correct position. Use strong tape (fiberglass reinforced) or even a dab of silicone (I prefer tape) to fixate the screen in final position.

    12. Put board in place and tighten down the 3 1.6mm screws. Make sure you listen carefully as you tighten down the lower screw (in the USB area). If you hear a click, then the board is pressing too much against the front wall and is activating one of the two lower buttons. Either sand down the button or back off half a turn.

    13. Solder the ground wire from the fdv connector to the top ground tab. Make a 360 loop with the wire before you solder to give you margin of movement if you need to access the screen later.

    14. Solder the positive pin fdv connector wire to the out tab. Proceed as previously and make a 360 loop before soldering.

    15. Put lipo in place, close the lid and screw it on with 4 2mmx20mm screws.

    Enjoy :)

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    The best method (for me) to build one of these 3d beta boxes is:

    1. Solder 16awg red silicon wire into the positive pole of a fdv connector. Leave two inches long (4/5cm) an cut the wire.

    2. Solder a 16awg black silicon wire to the fdv ground ring. Leave again 2 inches of wire and cut off the rest.

    3. Install the 510 connector and tighten down the nut well. Make sure the black ground wire is on the left side of the connector, near the bottom (farther away from you)

    4. Place the lipo (turnigy nano tech 950mah or equivalent) on the back of the board, wires facing down but exiting from the lipo closer to you i.e. You want the wires running along the lipo straight to the board (20mm long) . Not directly from the corner of the lipo to the board. Tape the battery to the board temporarily.

    5. Cut each battery wire (4 + 2) separately so that it reaches the board plus 3 or 4mm. Isolate each wire you cut with some painters tape.

    6. Start to solder each balance wire straight to the board. Carefully avoiding touching close by lanes or touching other solder joints.

    7. Solder positive power wire to the board.

    8. Install the oled screen

    9. Solder the ground wire. Board is now live! Be double careful. You can now remove the tape that holds the lipo in place.

    10. Insert the board diagonally into the enclosure (top part first) and find a way to secure the board temporarily at an angle of 30 degrees or so.

    11. Place screen in correct position. Use strong tape (fiberglass reinforced) or even a dab of silicone (I prefer tape) to fixate the screen in final position.

    12. Put board in place and tighten down the 3 1.6mm screws. Make sure you listen carefully as you tighten down the lower screw (in the USB area). If you hear a click, then the board is pressing too much against the front wall and is activating one of the two lower buttons. Either sand down the button or back off half a turn.

    13. Solder the ground wire from the fdv connector to the top ground tab. Make a 360 loop with the wire before you solder to give you margin of movement if you need to access the screen later.

    14. Solder the positive pin fdv connector wire to the out tab. Proceed as previously and make a 360 loop before soldering.

    15. Put lipo in place, close the lid and screw it on with 4 2mmx20mm screws.

    Enjoy :)

    Regards
    Tony

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    Thanks for taking the time to write out all that, although its a slightly scary prospect right now having pointers like this should really help! I am hoping ukecigstore store stock the board as iv got some store credit to use with them and that should help with the cost!

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    5. Cut each battery wire (4 + 2) separately so that it reaches the board plus 3 or 4mm. Isolate each wire you cut with some painters tape.

    Right. For the smallest enclosures you will not be using a connector for either the balance charger or the battery leads. Doing so you REALLY have to work carefully. It is not hard, but requires a clean and simple approach...and soldering the battery - last. I would add that some insulating tape over the battery + - and the balance charging solder points after you have soldered them (front and back) is a good idea if you are working with a metal case.
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to write out all that, although its a slightly scary prospect right now having pointers like this should really help! I am hoping ukecigstore store stock the board as iv got some store credit to use with them and that should help with the cost!

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    ModMaker.co.uk are the cheapest in the UK for the board, I did a write up of my build Smal DIY DNA200 Build | ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK it is probably too tight for a first mod but a Hammond 1590G would be easier and allow a larger battery. Good luck, take your time, check everything at lest twice and have a practice soldering the thick wires if you are new or rusty.
     
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