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dwcraig1

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sense herakles with the ni200 coils. I tried the nickel and titanium(with the proper CVS ofcourse) coils for the TFV4 and it was the exact same thing. extremely weak vape even at max settings. though if I remembered right titanium performed a little bit better.
Is it the same with other atties?
 

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Here is an example of me getting a weak hit, in this case it's because I sucked the tank dry but still amounts to the coil is starved for what ever reason, thick juice, ect.
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And after filling, a well fed coil
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I got a pretty weak hit in the first one believe me. LOL
 

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Here is an example of me getting a weak hit, in this case it's because I sucked the tank dry but still amounts to the coil is starved for what ever reason, thick juice, ect.
12143160_1085357018155188_9008062241430591016_n.jpg

And after filling, a well fed coil
12088474_1085357058155184_1718908974890151522_n.jpg

I got a pretty weak hit in the first one believe me. LOL
I DIY my juice and for my TGS2's it's 75% pg and 25% vg. If I were to reverse it ,75% vg my second live view would look more like the first one than the second one. I would have to make some changes with my wicking to use the thick stuff.
 

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Here is an example of me getting a weak hit, in this case it's because I sucked the tank dry but still amounts to the coil is starved for what ever reason, thick juice, ect.
12143160_1085357018155188_9008062241430591016_n.jpg

And after filling, a well fed coil
12088474_1085357058155184_1718908974890151522_n.jpg

I got a pretty weak hit in the first one believe me. LOL

In the first pic your getting to your Temperature setting of 450F in what appears to be an appropriate time period and then it stays there. In the second pic it seems the device is still on a ramp up to get to the set temp setting. You didn't chart cold ohms or live ohms so cant really tell what resistance changes were going on. Also depending on the wire gauge and juice your using will play a major factor to where a specific power setting will get you to, if your running at 28W with 20 gauge wire @ .35Ω it will take longer to get heated up than if you were running 28W 32 gauge @.35Ω. If your tank was going dry in your first pic that would explain why it was easier for it to get to the 450F whereas in your second pick with a fully saturated wick it was harder for it to get to that temp. What I've seen you post looks normal to me, you may just need to work out the settings.

It is also possible for Escribe to be logging the temperature incorrectly if the overall static resistance isn't configured correctly on the device, but it looks like thunderdan walked you through setting all that up. Question on that though. After you determined your mods resistance did you input that info into Escribe and then selece "Upload Settings to Device"?
 

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this is it set at 600 degrees fahrenheit. I don't know why the log says the cold ohms is 0.209 while the mod itself says 0.21.

Rounding most likely, .209 + .001, I cant really read that chart is to small for me but looks like it is shooting up to temp and staying there. Voltage output looks like it's doing what it should by dropping off to maintain the temperature.
 

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but it feels like barely hot air. it feels lukewarm, flavor isn't there.

it definitely doesn't feel like 600 degrees. I remember when I was actively using my RDNA 40 and 500 degrees would be pretty hot. it feels like maybe 450ish?

Temperature on Temp limiting devices are estimations (based on the resistance) not a definite temperature where you will get the exact temp on one device to another, although they should be close it's pretty subjective to try to compare different devices. If your temp isn't warm enough it may be due to the Mod Settings, TCR being used, Resistance, Wire type and gauge, air flow etc.. But from a functional stand point it looks to me like the device is doing what it should based on what it thinks.

About the only other thing I can think to suggest is try setting the Temperature Coefficient of Resistance to .0062 via the Custom > Special and see if that changes it any for you. I think that should be similar to what Steam Engine lists for their TCR for Ni200
 

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yeah I am going to just fiddle with the TCR. its stupid I have to do this to my DNA200 mod since I already do it with my X-cube
Yeah, sorry, I don't know man, sounds like you've done everything software wise you can do, other than fiddling with ni200 profiles.

That's odd though, I've never tried the herakles ni200 coils, but I have a Smok TCT, and those ni200 coils work fine straight out of the box using the stock dna200 ni200 profile. Similar type coil too, looks like its just a parellel vertical ni200 coil. I'll plug into escribe, and throw a graph up, not that it will probably help much.
 

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Question: anyone know why my device is stating "ohms too high?"

I am using a Crown stainless steel 0.5 coil (not using temperature control). It vapes fine but after a puff it will read the error message and its only going up to 0.66 or so. I had been previously using the nickel coil without any problems. I maybe saw that appear once or twice but that was all. I do notice that the ohms wander with the stainless steel coil when it is out of temperature control, but am I right in assuming that is normal outside of TC as it is giving a reading after each time it fires?

Edit: I am actually noticing that it is regulating the wattage outside of temperature control mode. I am assuming it is doing this so it does not exceed whatever ohm limit it thinks its exceeding?
 
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