Do box mods prevent battery's from exploding?
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A regulated mod... when functioning properly... can help prevent and avoid distressing the battery or automatically shut off due to too low of load or stuck fire button.
But remember these are pretty inexpensive electronics to begin with. Quality control has variations based on who built it. Batteries can become damaged from dropping them or may have minor manufacturing flaws and the chemicals can become unstable due to heat, cold or other environmental factors.
Treat your gear with care and use the device within "normal" operating range and you "should" be safe... but stuff happens some times.
But remember these are pretty inexpensive electronics to begin with. Quality control has variations based on who built it. Batteries can become damaged from dropping them or may have minor manufacturing flaws and the chemicals can become unstable due to heat, cold or other environmental factors.
Treat your gear with care and use the device within "normal" operating range and you "should" be safe... but stuff happens some times.
On worst scenario, it WILL still explode. However, box mod provides enough room to add in extra safety features, such as fuses.
If the box mod is regulated then there are some safety features that could prevent a battery from exploding. But even a regulated mod is not 100% safe if you don't use the correct batteries for your application.
If the box mod is not regulated then it's up to the user to get the education required to know how to vape safely.
If the box mod is not regulated then it's up to the user to get the education required to know how to vape safely.
At least a box mod will never turn into a pipe bomb. It'll be more like a ... um, box ... bomb ...
Ok, on a more serious note, a box is not as structurally strong as a pipe, or as tight around the battery, which means that it will probably vent earlier and less violently if the battery in it should decide to vent. Blowing off a door the size of a small cell phone takes less pressure than blowing off a switch the size of a coin.
Ok, on a more serious note, a box is not as structurally strong as a pipe, or as tight around the battery, which means that it will probably vent earlier and less violently if the battery in it should decide to vent. Blowing off a door the size of a small cell phone takes less pressure than blowing off a switch the size of a coin.
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I did a little test using an ipv2 and a Sony battery from a laptop power pack (please for the love of god don't copy me, I knew what I was doing could end badly but I have a wee bit of experience with electrics and explosive devices) I popped a very low amp battery into my ipv2 think the spec was a max of just over 4a continuous,
Popped my plume veil on top set with a dual coil set up to run one ohm 2ohm per coil and bumped the watts up to 50 (the wattage will keep going up but the volts will only go so high depending on build with my ipv)
Hit the power button and............
Watched the fully charged battery hit rock bottom as the power sagged, then.........
Got a check batt message on the ipv screen, no Big Bang no smoke, no heat,
But......
Not every mod is equal, don't test your luck as one day it will run out
Popped my plume veil on top set with a dual coil set up to run one ohm 2ohm per coil and bumped the watts up to 50 (the wattage will keep going up but the volts will only go so high depending on build with my ipv)
Hit the power button and............
Watched the fully charged battery hit rock bottom as the power sagged, then.........
Got a check batt message on the ipv screen, no Big Bang no smoke, no heat,
But......
Not every mod is equal, don't test your luck as one day it will run out
You have a regulated mod which carries the Yihi SX330 chip and does have an overheat protection mode built in also pretty good venting holes but with yours being dual battery your mod would get so hot ( venting ) you couldn't hold it before the battery's fully exploded and that would be a chip failure which would be very rare.
Make sure you always use at least 20 - 30 amp High Drain 18650 battery's......
Make sure you always use at least 20 - 30 amp High Drain 18650 battery's......
Whether a battery explodes or not has more to do with battery chemistry and the devices ability to release pressure through proper ventilation when battery thermal runaway occurs.
IMR/hybrid chemistry batteries vent with a relatively slow expansion, sizzle, fizzle, fumes, smoke maybe a few sparks. Most times you have time to remove the battery before full expansion/vent occurs.
IMR/hybrid are considered ' less volatile safer chemistry' batteries, IMR/hybrid are the only batteries recommended for use in removable battery devices / apv's.
ICR batteries are quite a bit more volatile they vent/expand very rapidly with flame sparks smoke. When inclosed in a box or tube the speed at which they expand and cast off debris can block ventilation holes in the apv causing the apv to swell, split or in worst case explode.
There is nothing built in any apv that prevents the user from installing the wrong chemistry or inadequate CDR battery(s).
IMR/hybrid chemistry batteries vent with a relatively slow expansion, sizzle, fizzle, fumes, smoke maybe a few sparks. Most times you have time to remove the battery before full expansion/vent occurs.
IMR/hybrid are considered ' less volatile safer chemistry' batteries, IMR/hybrid are the only batteries recommended for use in removable battery devices / apv's.
ICR batteries are quite a bit more volatile they vent/expand very rapidly with flame sparks smoke. When inclosed in a box or tube the speed at which they expand and cast off debris can block ventilation holes in the apv causing the apv to swell, split or in worst case explode.
There is nothing built in any apv that prevents the user from installing the wrong chemistry or inadequate CDR battery(s).
I wouldn't go that far, I was behind a screen that can handle a bit more than a battery going pop, and when I say I pressed the button I mean I clamped it in with a g clamp, I'm daft but not stupid
Is marrying the batteries a big deal or can that cause the mod to run at different battery percentages?
Yes, it is a very big deal in apvs that use 2 batteries.
Heat is a warning sign that something aint right. Hot = stop using it immediately and figure out what is wrong before using it again.
Could be something as simple as a dirty connection or as serious as a battery about to vent, could be you're using the wrong or insufficient CDR batteries.
As a potential heads up and warning about regulated mods, they will only protect you so much. The power mosfet in charge of turning the power to the coil on and off will tend to fail short in almost all cases. If your battery is rated properly, this will only manage to discharge the battery until it is useless. If you are pushing the limit of the cell.... well, it could end badly.
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