Do some new vapers have a death wish?
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I can remember when 1.7ohm LOW RESISTANCE cartos were first developed to take advantage of a 510/KR808/910 batteries average voltage of 3.7 volts.
I'd try another liquid as the one you're using seems to promote passive aggression
I could PIF some of mine but it promotes overly obvious aggression.
Most of these people aren't 'pushing the envelope' at all. That would imply they were hanging their asses out over the ragged edge of some unknown frontier, but it's well known what happens when you exceed the limits of your batteries or pump way way too much power into a coil. Ignorance or over confidence does not make one a trail blazer.
About the lowest thing I run is like a 0.45 dual coil setup in my Goblin, and I run that on a regulated mod at less than 25w. My 0.8 - 1.0 single coils run in the 12 - 18 watt range. I like vapor, and battery life, and great flavor, and not doing an impression of the coyote getting his face blasted off with a stick of acme dynamite.
About the lowest thing I run is like a 0.45 dual coil setup in my Goblin, and I run that on a regulated mod at less than 25w. My 0.8 - 1.0 single coils run in the 12 - 18 watt range. I like vapor, and battery life, and great flavor, and not doing an impression of the coyote getting his face blasted off with a stick of acme dynamite.
After a few drinks on the weekend I've been known to fire up a dual coil dripper @ .5 ohms. It's my vape version of chain smoking whilst on the booze.
I do the same at my bro's house when we are having a few beers and watching the Chicago Blackhawks play. He has more than once told me that my area of the house looks like a Chinese opium den. The first time I heard that I bust out laughing so hard I almost swallowed the Aspire tank...
How is this any different than other industries? I am all about education but realistically, far less than 1% of all vapers are here on this forum. We can beat our chests until we are blue in the face and the fact is, people are still going to mimic what they see and do what they want regardless of what anyone tries to tell them.
Any idiot can watch youtube videos about car racing and then go plunk down some money on a 700 HP Dodge Challenger to do the same. Never mind that all of the safety warnings all over the commercials, print ads, stickers on the car, all over the owners manual, etc. Is Dodge responsible for ensuring all customers can safely operate their product before they purchase it? No they are not. Is the dealer going to give you a safety speech about safe driving and show you how to drive safely before you drive away? No they will not. Are they obligated to? No they are not. Yes, you are supposed to have a license to drive, but the fact is, many do not and they don't care. You are also supposed to have insurance, but again, many do not.
So now this idiot in his brand new 700 HP car is barreling down the freeway at 120mph and all you can do is try to get out of the way. No amount of chest beating or education is going to get him to change his mind. It is the same thing with a lot of new vapers. They see people chucking "sick clouds yo!" on youtube and want to do the same. The only thing you can do is get out of their way when you see them coming, hoping they don't take you out when their mod crashes.
For what it's worth, a very, very, very small part of me wishes these uneducated idiots mods would detonate high order when they are all by themselves in a field. Lord knows I love reading about the Darwin award finalists cleansing the gene pool.
Seriously though, I don't want folks to get hurt, but they will. All we can do is hope we are out of their way when it all goes high order.
Still is for some of us
although... I been doin .5 today at a maximum of 20 watts. Klowdz for minutes bro.
LOL, i'm glad you included the "bro" at the end or it wouldn't of worked .
How is this any different than other industries? I am all about education but realistically, far less than 1% of all vapers are here on this forum. We can beat our chests until we are blue in the face and the fact is, people are still going to mimic what they see and do what they want regardless of what anyone tries to tell them.
Any idiot can watch youtube videos about car racing and then go plunk down some money on a 700 HP Dodge Challenger to do the same. Never mind that all of the safety warnings all over the commercials, print ads, stickers on the car, all over the owners manual, etc. Is Dodge responsible for ensuring all customers can safely operate their product before they purchase it? No they are not. Is the dealer going to give you a safety speech about safe driving and show you how to drive safely before you drive away? No they will not. Are they obligated to? No they are not. Yes, you are supposed to have a license to drive, but the fact is, many do not and they don't care. You are also supposed to have insurance, but again, many do not.
So now this idiot in his brand new 700 HP car is barreling down the freeway at 120mph and all you can do is try to get out of the way. No amount of chest beating or education is going to get him to change his mind. It is the same thing with a lot of new vapers. They see people chucking "sick clouds yo!" on youtube and want to do the same. The only thing you can do is get out of their way when you see them coming, hoping they don't take you out when their mod crashes.
For what it's worth, a very, very, very small part of me wishes these uneducated idiots mods would detonate high order when they are all by themselves in a field. Lord knows I love reading about the Darwin award finalists cleansing the gene pool.
Seriously though, I don't want folks to get hurt, but they will. All we can do is hope we are out of their way when it all goes high order.
Automobiles are covered under CPSC rules. Many rules. Vaping stuff is wide open with no safety rules to adhere to.
It's mostly peer pressure that started young at home in school, JMO, not enough teaching young guns be yourself and quit worrying what Jonny B. Dumb is doing and do your own thing. Case in point yesterday at the shop I work at, 19yr old came in with an IPV3Li upgraded for 200watts with a Dark Horse on it, "Hey can you build this to 0.1??" Opened the mod, seen he had Samsung 25R rev3's (light blue) in the IPV, then I looked at him and asked, "How many bullets you wanting in this revolver to play Russian Roulette with?" Kid looked at me and asked back, "What do you mean?" My answer, "Only time you should be below 0.25 on anything is a Temp Control build with Ni200 wire in Temp Control mode, 2nd going to be over 120watts regularly you'll need to run Sony VTC3, VTC4, or LG HB6 batteries due to the amp draw you wanting to pull, well over 20amps, and 3rd, which buddy put the nonsense in your head you need a 0.1ohm RDA build, this mod you can blow just as big a cloud at 0.5 as you can with a 0.1."
Sat down and proceeded to build him a 0.05 Ni200 dual coil setup in the Dark Horse, set all the settings for Ni200 TC, handed it to him, he looked at the screen, asking "0.05ohms, oh wow, cool, thought you were not going to build like I asked," took a rip off his mod, chucked his cloud, paid a $20 tip, 4 bottles juice bought, out the door he went a happy camper.
Owner looked at me, asking "What you just build in that thing."
Answer TC dual, Ni200 at 0.05, he thinks he has a super cool build in there, just a simple space Nickel coil setup, all he was worried about was the Ohm's to show off to his buddies.
Sat down and proceeded to build him a 0.05 Ni200 dual coil setup in the Dark Horse, set all the settings for Ni200 TC, handed it to him, he looked at the screen, asking "0.05ohms, oh wow, cool, thought you were not going to build like I asked," took a rip off his mod, chucked his cloud, paid a $20 tip, 4 bottles juice bought, out the door he went a happy camper.
Owner looked at me, asking "What you just build in that thing."
Answer TC dual, Ni200 at 0.05, he thinks he has a super cool build in there, just a simple space Nickel coil setup, all he was worried about was the Ohm's to show off to his buddies.
People will always push the extreme. Look at hotrodding cars, or extreme sports. If you decide to jump out of an airplane and your parachute fails, you decided the risk was worth the experience.
It's human nature to push the boundaries of any given thing. And I have to admit that the early pioneers into sub-ohm vaping (however obnoxious and annoying they were/are) did result in consumer-friendly sub-ohm tanks like the Atlantis, the Subtank, the Starre, etc. They chose to be the guinea pigs and this is the end result. I can't blame them, in hindsight.
I used to rant, too, back in the day, but now all I care about is education about battery safety and advocacy. People can do whatever they want beyond that and I couldn't care less.
Say it with me now, kids: "ohms don't matter on a regulated-wattage mod!" If the mod can fire .1, go ahead and put your .1 build on it. If the battery can push 100 watts, it doesn't matter if it's pushing them through 1 ohm or .1 ohms. 100 watts is 100 watts, as far as the battery is concerned. The highest amp draw will be when the battery is at its lowest voltage (as opposed to a mech mod, where the amp draw is highest when the battery is at full charge). I'm not sure what the cutoff voltage is on the IPV3Li, but let's say it will fire all the way down to 3.2 volts. 100 watts / 3.2 volts = 31.25 amps. Split across two batteries wired in parallel and you have 15.625 amps per battery -- plenty safe enough with a pair of 20-amp 25R's. Even 120 watts is only 18.75 amps per battery. That's cutting your safety margin pretty close, in my opinion, but still technically within the limits of the batteries' capabilities. But my point is, that it's the watts that matter on a regulated mod, not the ohms like on a mech.
The Sigelei's, IPV's, Snowwolf's, most of the dual battery high wattage devices (excluding the Eleaf iStick100wTC which is parallel) are all series, so it is wattage/6.4v=amps.
Series = 2x the voltage, same mah as a single battery and same CDR of a single battery.
So, example, Sigelei 150watt, 150/6.4=23.4375amps, 200watts, 200/6.4=31.25 (only a Sony VTC3 or LG HB6 can even attempt to handle this output, and even then at Pulse Discharge Rate not Continuous Discharge Rate, though by the math, max a 200watt can do with dual battery is 192watts, the Wismec Releax DNA200 triple battery series can handle a full 200watts with Sony VTC4s, Samsung 25Rs which is this 200/9.6=20.8333)
The above example that I built though, 50Joules (watts technically) at 480F TC, the kid is only pushing 8amps max (50/6.4=7.8125), even running a 0.05ohm, aka he got a placebo
IMO, yes, some vapers have a death wish, youtube & social media is full of them.
Okay, sure. So then going back to my earlier example, that's 100 watts / 6.4 volts = ...the same 15.625 amps. This time it's shared by both batteries instead of split evenly between them, but since the voltage is now doubled, the amp draw on each battery remains the same. Again, it would be a different story if we were talking series vs. parallel in mechanical mods (double voltage / same ohms = double amps), but we're not, we're talkin' regulated, here.
Sorry your example has me off.
Example Battery = Samsung 25R, 20amp CDR, 2500mah
Parallel Box Mod = 4.2v fresh charge 3.2v lowest charge, 40amp CDR, 5000mah
Series Box Mod = 8.4v fresh charge 6.4v lowest charge, 20amp CDR, 2500mah
Yes on a regulated most purposes Ohm's are nill other than to decide if the mod will fire or not, but also have to factor in, due to voltage limit to reach 150plus, you do have to build pretty low in the 0.15 range to get that full 150 to 200watts consistently. Most think because they have 200watts to use, they need to use it always, JMO, but to not wear out my circuit board, have 150watts on a Sig150, max watts to use constantly would be 75watts. Basically boils down to kids trying to prove who has the biggest Lil Richard downstairs making up for what they think they have a lack of downstairs, and being in the instant gratification ADHD generation, they don't apply themselves to learn properly.
As far as I know the only parallel regulated on the market is the iStick100w, the others are all series to use raw voltage to make watts instead of raw amps.
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