Do you know Nic?

[DennisBoyd123]

Why would I use a 72mg per Ml. Nicotine when I can use a 100mg. Per Ml. Help me understand why anyone would use less Nicotine Vg based if the target rate is onle 3%? Where can I store Nicotine (safely) can it freeze?

 

[Rixsta]

Why would I use a 72mg per Ml. Nicotine when I can use a 100mg. Per Ml. Help me understand why anyone would use less Nicotine Vg based if the target rate is onle 3%?

Im sure its illegal to sell higher than 72mg nic,(7.2%).. well it is in the UK... not to mention dangerous in the wrong hands..

 

[coilburner]

Um cause I don't have a death wish. The throat it combined with the amount of nicotine would be unbearable. Why not cover your body with nicotine patches and chew on a mouth full of Nicorette while vaping that 100mg juice while your at it?

 

[alicewonderland]

I dont think you grasp the idea of potency. Those can be lethal concentrations of nicotine. Most of us work with 0-18mg/ml , 24-36mg for those who just switched and are quitting smoking and probably using clearomizers which dont deliver nicotine as well as the newer systems. 72-100mg will give you a trip to the ER if you actually vape it or even spill a few drops on your skin. swallowing a teaspoon of that will probably kill you on the spot.

 

[VHRB2014]

It is more economical if you buy it in concentrated form and cut it down. I buy 100mg and cut it down to make 2.5, 2.8, and 3%.

 

[DennisBoyd123]

My e-calculator calls for .90Ml of a 100mg. Per Ml. for a 3percent level then that's what I add! Why would I use less concentrate? I understand that it can kill you and not something you want on your skin.

 

[alicewonderland]

My e-calculator calls for .90Ml of a 100mg. Per Ml. for a 3percent level then that's what I add! Why would I use less concentrate? I understand that it can kill you and not something you want on your skin.

well, I dont know about 70-100mg. But I buy 3-6mg nicotine base because I dont want to bother cutting it myself or having mishaps and possibly hazardous spillage/mishaps. I dont see the real difference between 70-100mg because youd have to cut it either way and they are both dangerous levels of nicotine.

.90ML of 100mg, per ML? is that .90ML then .10ML of VG? because that doesnt dilute it much

 

[DennisBoyd123]

It is more economical if you buy it in concentrated form and cut it down. I buy 100mg and cut it down to make 2.5, 2.8, and 3%.

Yes. Why would someone use less concentrated Nic. Just asking its not any safer! It'll still kill you if not handle safely!

 

[DennisBoyd123]

Im sure its illegal to sell higher than 72mg nic,(7.2%).. well it is in the UK... not to mention dangerous in the wrong hands..

Not here

 

[alicewonderland]

Yes. Why would someone use less concentrated Nic. Just asking its not any safer! It'll still kill you if not handle safely!

using less concentrated Nic is safer. Accidentally spill some 100mg on your skin or drop some on the floor, you get sidecramps and headaches or worse a trip to the ER, a pet goes and steps or licks up the drop of 100mg on the floor, dead pet. 3-6mg is nowhere near as toxic, spill some on your skin or accidentally swallow some (from a broken coil clearomizer or something) and it wont affect you as much as if you accidentally sucked in some 24-36mg nic.

There is just a higher risk when you work with higher potency. with my 3-6mg I dont have to measure anything or worry about spilling or getting any on my skin. I just pour some of it in a bottle and add some flavoring.

 

[DennisBoyd123]

well, I dont know about 70-100mg. But I buy 3-6mg nicotine base because I dont want to bother cutting it myself or having mishaps and possibly hazardous spillage/mishaps. I dont see the real difference between 70-100mg because youd have to cut it either way and they are both dangerous levels of nicotine.

.90ML of 100mg, per ML? is that .90ML then .10ML of VG? because that doesnt dilute it much

well, I dont know about 70-100mg. But I buy 3-6mg nicotine base because I dont want to bother cutting it myself or having mishaps and possibly hazardous spillage/mishaps. I dont see the real difference between 70-100mg because youd have to cut it either way and they are both dangerous levels of nicotine.

.90ML of 100mg, per ML? is that .90ML then .10ML of VG? because that doesnt dilute it much

.90Ml of 100mg, per Ml. VG based 30ml bottle! I have not made any juice at this time just getting info! I run calculation on e-calculator just to see if the formula works.

 

[VHRB2014]

Maybe its all the high amperage welding Iv done in my life, but if I get a little bit of 100mg on my hands whilst making juice its no big deal. Its really no more dangerous than eating at (name your restaurant of choice).

 

[alicewonderland]

Maybe its all the high amperage welding Iv done in my life, but if I get a little bit of 100mg on my hands whilst making juice its no big deal. Its really no more dangerous than eating at (name your restaurant of choice).

i wouldnt go around telling people spilling 100mg nicotine concentrate on their hands is just as safe as eating at a restaurant tbh. There is a reason why they slap on those skull n crossbones on the bottles of nicotine concentrate, and that if we as humans absorb too much nicotine we start showing signs of nicotine poisoning. They get worse the more you absorb, starts with just drowsiness or headaches, to cramps and pain, to coma and can lead to death. Whatever amount that is depends on the persons resistance or bodyweight. When I accidentally sucked in probably 1-2ml of 24mg nicotine through a broken clearomizer I was having sidecramps, coldsweats and headaches the entire night. Nicotine is readily absorbed through the skin as well.

I mean sure you personally can probably spill some on your hands and have it not effect you as much as others, but I wouldnt go around telling people its perfectly safe and the same as eating at a restaurant, because it's not.

 

[DennisBoyd123]

Where is the best (safest) to store Nicotine so that it won't go bad! And can it freeze?

 

[alicewonderland]

yeah you can put it in the freezer. I just put my juice in a mini fridge, because I only buy enough for 1-2months of use, and they dont go bad that quick. Theres other threads of people saying they store their stuff in freezer for 1year+ with no issues, theres some others that say after taking it out from the freezer it tastes funky though, but I dont know as I never freeze mine.

 

[Lessifer]

I think for some people it's just easier to do the calculations without a whole lot of tiny measurements. Take 100ml of 72mg and combine it with 100ml of vg and you get 200ml of 36mg, do that again and you get 18mg, again and you get 9mg.

I got a sample of 48mg instead of 50mg for this reason, I can cut it twice to get an easy 12mg base.

 

[alicewonderland]

whenever you do mix, higher concentration is kinda harder to mix also. compare it to like, trying to distribute a tiny drop of super concentrated nicotine in a giant jug of 0 concentrated, you're going to really have to mix it up to get even distribution throughout the final product.

 

[VHRB2014]

i wouldnt go around telling people spilling 100mg nicotine concentrate on their hands is just as safe as eating at a restaurant tbh. There is a reason why they slap on those skull n crossbones on the bottles of nicotine concentrate, and that if we as humans absorb too much nicotine we start showing signs of nicotine poisoning. They get worse the more you absorb, starts with just drowsiness or headaches, to cramps and pain, to coma and can lead to death. Whatever amount that is depends on the persons resistance or bodyweight. When I accidentally sucked in probably 1-2ml of 24mg nicotine through a broken clearomizer I was having sidecramps, coldsweats and headaches the entire night. Nicotine is readily absorbed through the skin as well.

I mean sure you personally can probably spill some on your hands and have it not effect you as much as others, but I wouldnt go around telling people its perfectly safe and the same as eating at a restaurant, because it's not.

Ya, your right, some folks are a bit sensitive and probably should`nt even be in the same room with it. That being said I am always sharing MY experience only, and that does not mean it will apply equally to everyone. Of course concentrated nicotine is a substance that requires respect, but its not going to kill you as soon as you open the bottle.

 

[Monotremata]

No one vapes 100mg nicotine. It doesnt quite work that way.. Lessifer already hit it, its purpose is to dilute it down with more PG and VG. Its a volume measurement, that single bottle by itself is 100mg/ml of nicotine sure, but add more volume to it, and it goes down quick. I buy 100mg nic in 120ml bottles but I make juice in 60ml batches at a time at 6mg of nic with a 50/50 PG/VG ratio. That means that Im only using 3.6ml of that 100mg nicotine per each 60ml flavor, and the rest of that 60ml is made up of straight PG, VG, and the flavorings which are also PG based. When factored in with the rest of the ingredients that make up my 60ml batch means there is only 6mg/ml of nicotine in it.

And like VHRB2014 just said, if youre sensitive to it, you better take extra precautions.. Im sloppy, Ive gotten it on me before and had absolutely nothing happen to me. Granted I used to use it to put a stop to red ant hills in my front yard before (it works awesome), but from getting "slop" on my fingers and hand during juice making, I havent even got a head rush from it yet. If you spilled a whole bottle on you, Id worry but just be careful like you should be and youll be fine.

 

[alicewonderland]

Of course concentrated nicotine is a substance that requires respect, but its not going to kill you as soon as you open the bottle.

I dont think anyone said it would kill you as soon as you open the bottle.