I dont think anyone said it would kill you as soon as you open the bottle.
Err, Ya, I never said it was perfectly safe either. With that in mind, look up fast food deaths, and compare them to nic OD deaths, see which is more dangerous. :?)
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Err, Ya, I never said it was perfectly safe either. With that in mind, look up fast food deaths, and compare them to nic OD deaths, see which is more dangerous. :?)
I dont think anyone said it would kill you as soon as you open the bottle.
Too bad the Feds would have you believe that if they could!
im pretty sure the sample size of people who eat fast food doesnt even compare to the sample size of people who mix with 100mg nicotine... but whatever, go around keep telling people 100mg nic is just as safe(or safer as you put it in your recent post) as eating at a restaurant. I strongly disagree and think you are doing the vaping community a huge disservice.
I have to wonder, what if the sample size was the same? I would still bet eating fast food is more dangerous, but that is noting more then an educated guess. Of course those #`s would be impossible to find, but I would be willing to bet that peeps working with High Con. Nic are safer then joe burger flipper. Just saying, LOL.
It's doing things easier for yourself.
With my 100 mg I can pour it into 2 l bottle I have and just add the rest to get my 5 mg base.
Chances of mishaps are greatly reduced when you use less tools.
I still apply "Shake it, baby"-sticker to my base bottles to remember to give it a shake when used.
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With my 100 mg I can pour it into 2 l bottle I have and just add the rest to get my 5 mg base.
Chances of mishaps are greatly reduced when you use less tools.
I still apply "Shake it, baby"-sticker to my base bottles to remember to give it a shake when used.
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theres a post here somewhere from a guy who accidentally swallowed some nicotine. during the middle of the night he went downstairs to get a drink, and took a drink out of his nicotine which he thought was a beverage, went out to the front of his lawn and passed out. woke up from a coma in the hospital days later. It may take more than people say to 'kill' a human, but its not just a white and black picture of you die or you dont die. You can fall off an X story building and survive, but you'll probably have some serious injuries that make your life not quite ideal for a certain amount of time (or permanently)
Yes, but it's neither "OMG, 100 mg is gonna kill ya".
Facts, not the rumours, that's the ONLY way to differnate us from Big Tobacco.
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no one here said 100mg is gonna kill you? Either way 100mg nic is dangerous. I never told anyone to not buy it or change their opinion on it. Just saying be careful with it because it is a poison. It will kill pets, and can give you things like diahreah headaches and cramps even with small mishaps.
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I wonder how the people who make the 100, 250, 500 nic base from the "pure" stuff survive....
It seems a shame to me that when someone new to the subject asks for a little advise, that they have to endure this quite pointless back and forth bickering and nitpicking.
It really doesn't show anyone in a positive light.
YMO.
It really doesn't show anyone in a positive light.
YMO.
I dont think anyone said it would kill you as soon as you open the bottle.
This was pretty close....
I'm one of those people that handle 100mg nic without gloves, and if I get some on my fingers I get absolutely no reaction at all. I've even spread some on the palm of my hand, just to try to get some sort of reaction (just in the interests of science, mind you, my lawyer told me to tell you not to try this at home)
ETA: For clarity I got no reaction at all
A guy at a vape shop told me "they" get a burning sensation if they get any 100mg nic on their hands (trying to tell me my nic was weak, or his was better, some sort of BS woven in there, mine titrates to 100mg).
I was a 2-3 PAD smoker for 40 years. It may well be that I'm more tolerant than the average bear.
I have dripped 50mg. Yes, 50mg. Fifty. In a low power single coil dripper, I think it was a 14W max Provari. I seriously doubt that dripping 72mg would send me to the ER. Maybe you, my lawyer asked me to tell you don't try this at home. I dripped the 50mg because the idea of vaping small amounts of high concentrate was discussed in a thread here a while back. That because the OP started with 50mg cigalikes so he figured 50mg was a good number and it worked for him, taking a few hits every few hours. And he had not smoked in 20-30 years (should have had no tolerance at all for nic), he was experimenting with self medication to alleviate senior moment issues. And he claimed to be a Professor of Neuroscience that had done some research into nicotine.
In the modern world a lot of people have trouble threading needles. And maybe the terrorists are winning and so many people here are buying into the ANTZ propaganda despite what they might think? I think it's a shame because statements like I quoted unnecessarily turn people off of DIY. Use care, yes. Use gloves? Sure, at least until you know your own tolerance. But you handle common household products that are more toxic everyday without a thought. I never worry about what would happen if I swallowed a teaspoon of bleach, for example. I just don't do that. Nor do I do that with my 100mg nic. Common sense, folks, common sense.
Hmm when you all talk about diluting down to less than 25-30mg, are you using VG based nic? I make 3mg juice, and I do either 70/30 or 80/20 vg/pg mixes with pg based nic (easier to measure), so I find that I have to dilute to at least 30mg in order to use it in my recipes. Which, with 120ml of100mg nic is easy to do.
I put on some gloves, take my 500ml flask, put in 280ml of pure PG, then put in all 120ml of 100mg nic and mix. Voila! 400ml of 30mg nic for about US$20. I put the mix into two cobalt blue 250 ml bottles, store one in the freezer and the other one in my cool, dark mixing dungeon. 200ml of 30mg lasts me at least 2-3 months.
I've only done this once so far, I was using 60mg nic until recently.
I put on some gloves, take my 500ml flask, put in 280ml of pure PG, then put in all 120ml of 100mg nic and mix. Voila! 400ml of 30mg nic for about US$20. I put the mix into two cobalt blue 250 ml bottles, store one in the freezer and the other one in my cool, dark mixing dungeon. 200ml of 30mg lasts me at least 2-3 months.
I've only done this once so far, I was using 60mg nic until recently.
Do you have any real world basis for your statements here or is this just stuff you read on the internet? For almost a year now, I've been mixing 100mg concentrate down to vaping levels, in bottles large and small, and never had any indication of poor mixing. I've even titrated some of the larger bottles, just to test all this Urban Myth stuff. I believe in testing rather than blindly adopting and repeating Urban Legends. My titrations, from different levels in a 250ml bottle, were perfect. I do try to plan ahead and give it overnight to mix naturally after I give it a good shake.
Same with small 10-15ml bottles. I often add a bit of 100mg nic, measured with a 1ml syringe (graduated in 0.01ml increments) and never had any sense of being off.
Personally I bought my 100mg nic in 50/50 base (thinking it would be easier to ensure even mix in the original 100mg concentrate) but if I need to buy it again I'm thinking about buying in 100% VG just because I like max VG blends. However, if I blend 100mg 50/50 into a 3mg final mix then I'm only adding 1.5% PG so it's fairly irrelevant.
What I do now is to maintain a 250ml bottle with a 4.25mg base, adding 4.25ml of 100mg 50/50 to 96ml pure VG. Most of my mixes are 30% flavoring so that reduces the 4.25 to 3mg. If my flavoring is weaker than I might be vaping more like 3.5mg and it probably won't kill me
(I'm not hung over that level of precision verses the convenience of the premixed base). I use that base for smaller final mixes in the 15ml to maybe 50ml range.When I mix up 100ml or more of an ADV then I mix the 100mg nic into VG at time of mix, only because it's a waste of time to pull 70ml from my 250ml bottle and then have to worry about making up new premixed base. A path of least resistance thing.
The difference between you and me is that you are ending up with a 30mg 100% PG base. You have a little more PG than you need, assuming you are trying to make max VG mixes. But by the time you get down to 3mg it probably doesn't matter much. What's 1.5% extra PG among friends? It would matter more if you were in the 12-24mg final mix range.
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