Do you perpetuate the water vapor lie?

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Giraut

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I was chatting with my company's doctor this afternoon. She recently released an company-wide statement reminding employees that vaping is not allowed indoors. "I'm awfully sorry to have to enforce that policy" she said, "I know e-cigarettes only release harmless water vapor, but it's the law".

And I thought to myself: "you *know* eh? I think not, else you wouldn't say it's water vapor". The sad thing is, she's a doctor, someone who's supposed to stay informed about current health issues. And I'm also thinking, it's the same kind of douche in government who think they know, who come up with idiotic laws against vaping - and those aren't even doctors...

Yet the water vapor myth is convenient: it sounds better than "nicotine-laced propylene glycol and glycerol vapor" when trying to convince someone that second-hand vape is harmess. The good doctor seemed genuinely sorry to have to impose a ban on vaping. I'm not sure she would've felt that way, had she known juice contains chemicals with Bhopal-sounding names. So I let her comment slide.

Frankly, I use the water vapor lie myself when I ask permission to vape indoors. It's a lot easier than launching into a lecture on the safety of PG, VG and nicotine at the concentrations they're found inside the room around a vaper. And if I ever run into someone who knows better, I can always play ignorant: who's gonna blame me for thinking juice turns into steam inside the atomizer? After all, I'm not a chemist...

Do you use that white lie too? Do you feel bad about it? Me, I feel I knowingly keep people misinformed on vaping, and misinformation isn't helping the cause. I'd rather people - and our powers-that-be - knew what vaping really is, and decided whether or not it's okay based on correct premises. But in daily social situations, it's just not very practical to educate people.
 

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I would never call it water vaper. What goes in is what comes out. Our mucous membranes and lungs take out of it what they do but they do not change it to water vaper.

I do say that there is no second hand smoke. Well no first hand smoke for that matter. It is cleaner than those scented candles that that I find so gagging.
 
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Nope. If someone doesn't want to hear an explanation of what it is, I move on. I try my best to explain what is in my e-liquids (the ingredients, plus other uses for PG and VG and what the flavorings are), how they're vaporized, and what the actual vapor is, based on the research I've done. Most people have been more than happy to listen, or they've pretended to listen and not been jerks about it. The ones who didn't listen didn't really care about what it was, they were just repeating something they heard elsewhere and didn't care enough to learn what it really was.
 

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Im surprised by everyone answers. I wont lie, I do use the water vapor line sometimes when Its just random people that I dont want to explain it to, or dont want them to concern therselfs with why im not going outside to vape (waiter at a resturant, bartender at bar, clerk at store, ect) Although I get why people might have issues with the line, I figured it would be more common among vapers. I guess I just lack the moral fiber of most :)
 

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The factory I work at wouldn't even listen/give a chance to explain it, just simply avoided answering me on if it was allowed indoors and then announced at company wide meeting yesterday that "electric cigarettes would b treated the same as regular cigs and tobacco products, and are only allowed outside on breaks and lunch" :/


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No, I give them the facts and if they don't want vaping allowed then I respect that and wait until I leave.

Lying about it is just going to make things worse in the end.

My boss actually sells them himself and doesn't mind me smoking inside, as far as work goes. I run a few convienance stores, it's pretty convienant.
 

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The best term would be LIQUID VAPOR. Saying water vapor really is saying the same thing as LIQUID VAPOR. It's not technically lying, its just conveying it's a watery vapor, not smoke, and there is water in the vapor.
When you say smoke, you don't have to say it is a carcinogenic laden soot, even though it is.:evil:
 
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