Doctor has me as a non smoker!

[milescadre]

Ironically my employer also seems to not note me as a smoker, despite vaping. However, its mainly due to no nicotine being in the juice, therefore no nicotine levels in my blood work (just had it done, just got medical ^^), so since I dont smoke and have no nicotine, they dont consider me as a smoker and my insurance is cheaper =P

 

[ScottP]

just caught up on the additional posts.
i'm not saying the doctors are not talking amoungst themselves and there patients.
its the total lack of anything in the media regarding this.
i know the media isn't hounding them for these good stories.
then again i don't see many practicing doctors knocking down the doors
of there local media establishments harking the good news.
further i'm not faulting the doctors pro or con its the media
that should be digging in on this..

regards
mike

Don't get me started on the media. Grrr...too late.
The media was originally the watch dog of the political and corporate machines. They were the ones that dug deep to get the stories, and provide truth and insight to the people. Now they are nothing more than propaganda mercenaries, selling their support to the highest bidder.

EDIT: Advertisements were the worst thing to ever happen to the news industry. Originally newspapers made their money off of subscriptions and sales so the PEOPLE were the ones that they catered to. Now everything from newspapers, to magazines, to tv news, to online news is paid for by advertising dollars. So it is now the corporate and political machines that they cater to.

 

[beckdg]

I just got back from the doctors and he has marked me down as a non smoker and recorded the last day i had an analog. I mention to him that i am using the ecig and he didn't have anything to say good or bad about it. He was just really happy that i quit and was fast to record it.

I am assuming that he has nothing bad to say about the ecig but is unable to say anything good because of the FDA making a fuss out of "It is not safe" crap.

My arteries in my neck text came back clear and my blood work is normal along with my blood pressure.

All in all the doctor was very happy and so am I!

that's fantastic news. congrats!

I would assume most Doctors would be noncommittal with a patient. At this point they can't point to a single study which clearly shows the effects of long term use. Intuitively it SHOULD be safer than smoking because so many clearly hazardous chemicals have been removed but how safe in the long term, especially compared with abstinence? The reality is there's no proof either way.

abstinence led back to addiction in my case. for those who can abstain without a precursor, sure it's better. but for the many that just revert, abstinence is merely a gateway back to the usual poison. IE; for some, the healthier alternative is a safer alternative rather than fighting the stressors of cold turkey.

 

[beckdg]

That's great! Mine was happy to hear I quit too. He even took a pic of my set up to show other patients an example of what to get. He's had some issues with patients who tried and failed with cigalikes like Blu, which are everywhere now. He's been recommending ecigs for quite some time already, so now he knows where to point those who failed with cigalikes to.

I'm in need of a heart transplant but they wont put me on the list unless I'm off cigarettes for at least 6 months. I've been vaping for 6 months but my doctor says If I test positive for nicotine its still no good. She did say though that she might be able to argue to the board to make an exception. I would be the first patient to get on the transplant list while still using a 'nicotine replacement' if she is successful.

this is what i call restoring faith in humanity. your doctors are certainly the ones that deserve their titles. in it for the right reasons...

and that's what makes it all worth it in the end.

 

[doctadrea]

I just got back from the doctors and he has marked me down as a non smoker and recorded the last day i had an analog. I mention to him that i am using the ecig and he didn't have anything to say good or bad about it. He was just really happy that i quit and was fast to record it.

I am assuming that he has nothing bad to say about the ecig but is unable to say anything good because of the FDA making a fuss out of "It is not safe" crap.

My arteries in my neck text came back clear and my blood work is normal along with my blood pressure.

All in all the doctor was very happy and so am I!

Me too!!! Just got back from my first visit to a new doctor. After he listened to my lungs, he said "Non-smoker, right?" YUP! "Your lungs sound good." I just about jumped over the moon.

 

[Deeo]

Congrats! Just out of curiosity, how long has it been since you had an analog? Im wondering how much time must pass before a doc marks one down as a non-smoker.

One month and 6 days analog free!

 

[Deeo]

I'm in need of a heart transplant but they wont put me on the list unless I'm off cigarettes for at least 6 months. I've been vaping for 6 months but my doctor says If I test positive for nicotine its still no good. She did say though that she might be able to argue to the board to make an exception. I would be the first patient to get on the transplant list while still using a 'nicotine replacement' if she is successful.

I hope your doctor can pull the strings and you can get your heart operation done.

 

[Dani8kt]

chantax is back on the market with new restrictions including you must have counseling.
read: under the care of a psychiatrist .

....really? *runs to fill prescription.*

 

[bluecat]

You could be right as far as publications and public statements go. However behind closed doors with the patients, we are already hearing personal stories of people whose Dr's encouraged vaping over smoking. I would guess that in the short term very few if any actually suggest vaping to a currently smoking patient, even if for no other reason than they have no knowledge of what product(s) specifically to suggest. I mean, should the Doctor recommended a Provari and a RBA for the best experience or should they recommend starting with a cig-a-like?

That got me to thinking, what would happen if someone like say Blu managed to get Dr's to give out starter kits and disposables as free samples to smoking patients looking to quit? Like you say it would probably be pretty difficult for even Big-T to go up against Big Pharma in that arena.

One has to be careful when thinking of this. If doctors start recommending as a quit smoking device/therapy, then the FDA would come in a regulate it as a medical device which they tried unsuccessfully to do back in 2009.

 

[MorpheusPA]

Mine changed me over with a flourish (hard to do when typing, but he managed) and a high-five. He was also my father's doctor, and my father died at 68 of...well, everything, but the smoking didn't help.

The last time I went in with what I called a mix of anthrax and the Black Death, he said that although my ears were completely clogged, my lungs sounded fantastic.

My cardiologist was a little more reserved and hesitant, but he's pretty old-school and was reasonably open-minded about the electronic. Since conservative care is what I want in a cardiologist, I was willing to accept that.

One local hospital won't allow nicotine replacement for employment, it's abstinence or nothing. I'm not sure about the others.

 

[ScottP]

One has to be careful when thinking of this. If doctors start recommending as a quit smoking device/therapy, then the FDA would come in a regulate it as a medical device which they tried unsuccessfully to do back in 2009.

They wouldn't recommend this as a "quit smoking" therapy. It would be recommended as an "alternate nicotine source". The difference is one way it telling them to quit doing something, the other is telling them to do it in a different way. Like telling a carpenter to use a nail gun instead of a hammer is telling him a better way to accomplish the same thing, it's not telling him to stop driving nails.