Does The Kick Account For Voltage Drop Underload?

[Kemosabe]

in my searches for another mechanical, i have run across reports of various voltage drops between mechanicals underload. i was looking for one with the best conductivity.

however, i will be kicking it so im not sure if any of that matters... wont the kick account for the drop and still give me the correct wattage?

 

[tc1]

There will always be a slight voltage drop. If the contacts are all clean it will probably be less than 0.5 watts though .... hardly a noticeable difference.

 

[Kemosabe]

thanks tc. much appreciated. im very glad to hear it. by clean, do you mean alcohol-wipe clean, or sandpaper clean?

 

[tc1]

thanks tc. much appreciated. im very glad to hear it. by clean, do you mean alcohol-wipe clean, or sandpaper clean?

Either would work. Heck, you can even use an eraser head off a pencil if you're in a pinch.

 

[imrdy85]

yes the official kick by evolv does calculate power under load, it even monitors the resistance of the coil while firing. i did test it with my own multimeter while firing. the difference is slight but i notice it compared to my vamo and zmax in vw modes.

 

[tc1]

yes the official kick by evolv does calculate power under load, it even monitors the resistance of the coil while firing. i did test it with my own multimeter while firing. the difference is slight but i notice it compared to my vamo and zmax in vw modes.

The Kick uses PWM doesn't it? If so, a multimeter isn't going to give you a proper reading. (Unless you have an expensive meter than can read duty cycle and frequency). From the tests I've seen done with an ECD meter, just about any device ... including a Provari (which is HIGHLY filtered and calibrated for accuracy) will give a slight voltage drop.

 

[Heavyrocker]

I dont know why people use a kick,i use the smokteck telescope and i get massive vapour and taste without the kick,right down too 3.2 volts,i think the wicks and tank set up make the difference,i use the nova tanks with SS mesh.

 

[tc1]

I dont know why people use a kick,i use the smokteck telescope and i get massive vapour and taste without the kick,right down too 3.2 volts,i think the wicks and tank set up make the difference,i use the nova tanks with SS mesh.View attachment 208764

I don't notice the voltage drop all that much either honestly, especially with my genesis atomizers and RBA drippers. Now back in the day ... when "low resistance" atomizers/cartos meant 1.8 ohms and the norm was generally above 2 ohms. Back when atomizers/cartos weren't as efficient at producing vapor, flavor, and nicotine hits ... sure.

Truthfully ... the efficiency of mechanicals, RBAs, and batteries has surpassed the need for regulated voltage/wattage for most rebuildable users. In fact, if you're a high wattage vaper, a mechanical is probably all you use atm. (DNA20 mods coming out now though ...).

Don't get me wrong ... there is still a place for regulated mods but it's almost entirely based on what atomizer device you are using. If you're strictly an RBA vaper, then a Kick honestly just gets in your way ... as well as eat your battery life.

I use both ... but I mainly just use non-regulated these days.

 

[imrdy85]

The Kick uses PWM doesn't it? If so, a multimeter isn't going to give you a proper reading. (Unless you have an expensive meter than can read duty cycle and frequency). From the tests I've seen done with an ECD meter, just about any device ... including a Provari (which is HIGHLY filtered and calibrated for accuracy) will give a slight voltage drop.

It does use PWM. An oscilloscope is ideal for measurements. With a well filtered output you have minimal ripple. The ripple is what throws off the measurements. What i see is the zmax or vamo calculating power and trying to supply that voltage to the resistor but it drops under load. Both the kick and provari do the same, but continue to monitor the resistance change as the coil heats up and continue to boost voltage to your setting. Under load you will get what you set within .1-.2v. I would call that negligible from a handheld power supply.

I dont take anything away from the less expensive PVs. I love them. They do a great job at being consistant. You can set it to 5.0 and get 4.85. It really doesnt matter if its that far off because as long as it consistantly does the same drop, you still adjust to your preference. The numbers dont really mean as much as long as you get consistant vape. I do love a solidly regulated vape, nothing is more of a let down after a catastrophic day than an anemic vape from a nearly dead battery. A 1.0 Ohm coil will do wonders, but 5am does not equal 5pm at my vape pace.