Does this seem right to you?
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I think most of us who are actively in this thread agree. I try to do my part, if I see a junk article, I comment, possibly email the author if an option. I call/write my representatives. I share good articles and information in my social media circles. AND I try to spread correct information among vapers as well.
There's a clear and concise discourse. Follow from the beginning and it should all be clear.
True...
But when the attack is on the foreign monster, making it look as the alpha monster vs the native monster gives the antis the "see... I knew it was too dangerous" and "think of the children" slants immediately.
No need to work it in to every news bulletin.
Tapatyped
Yes... Yes you Do.
And Even if I do Not Agree with all of your Views, I can Respect you for having them.
And with that, I'm going to call it a night. I have a Big Day tomorrow replacing Vinyl Straps in my Patio Chairs.
LOL
Always appreciate the debate, you always bring up views that I know many vapers hold, and it's good that we can discuss them. Have fun tomorrow
Zoid.... after you finish, don't forget to have them inspected by all the relevant govt agencies.... make sure they're safe for the children....
I appreciate you for saying this.
And this right here is my #1 gripe.....
Instead of being OUT there doing something, too many people remain IN here arguing tooth & nail with each other.
IN here I understand the passion but OUT there trying to spread the word often falls on deaf ears cause folks don't have a clue what I'm talking about.
Of the few vapers I know, only 1 vapes for the sake of quitting smoking; the rest do it cause for them, it's the new hotness.
you would be right except for one thing.
it was the ANTZ who first made a big stink
out of this flavor and cartoon crap.
three years ago no one except us and the ANTZ
even knew e-cigs were an issue.
its ANTZ propaganda that is informing the
general public and more specifically the children
about all the yummy flavors and colorful bottles.
that's how my grand kids found out.
seriously,look at the new video campaign launched
by smokefreeca.org. if you remove the audio
and written warnings and watch the video's
alone one would think they were directly
targeting the children to use e-cigs.
i think they are.
regards
mike
And therein lies the biggest problem.you would be right except for one thing.
it was the ANTZ who first made a big stink
out of this flavor and cartoon crap.
three years ago no one except us and the ANTZ
even knew e-cigs were an issue.
its ANTZ propaganda that is informing the
general public and more specifically the children
about all the yummy flavors and colorful bottles.
that's how my grand kids found out.
seriously,look at the new video campaign launched
by smokefreeca.org. if you remove the audio
and written warnings and watch the video's
alone one would think they were directly
targeting the children to use e-cigs.
i think they are.
regards
mike
I feel we are fighting a losing battle but fight we must.
And therein lies the biggest problem.
How about engaging in the whole war. ACLU, EFF, NRA, ATR, etc.
The only reason these tactics work is because "we" gave them these tools to use...
We gave them these tools when we did NOT fight the lies when they were about tobacco use.
Now, after 30 years of brainwashing, their agenda has become well-accepted fact.
And that agenda is even more false now, for vaping, than it was then.
But I suspect it's too late to fight it now.
It's ingrained. It's public knowledge.
Anyway, I'm back to liking posts from both sides.
And hating myself for doing it.
And yes, here we all are again, at the dying end of a mainstream thread.
I just hope people are still reading, and considering.
And mostly, I hope they are considering that fighting is better than rolling over.
Is this how far we have come?
Or how far we have fallen?
By many of the new posts, I'd be surprised if half of the new vapers on the forum vape to quit smoking...
I've never been of the idea that vaping is only for those who are trying to quit smoking. Yes, that's a great benefit, but I would not deprive someone who is even considering smoking of the option to vape instead.
I wanted to say thank you for posting, I think we figured out a while back that you had already updated your labeling. I'm not sure where the OP got the initial image from...
I assume the majority of smokers weren't forced to start, so... most of us?
I have known a number of people over the years that were "social smokers" only when out in a group, or when drinking. Some of them stayed that way, others took up smoking full time. Every year, even still hundreds of thousands of teens start smoking, what world do you live in?
Smoking just happens; there's no debate as to whether or not one will start. I certainly didn't wake up one day and say, "well, it's a good day to start smoking"...
I guess them not having e-liquid with cookies or cartoon characters prohibits them from starting to vape...
I live in reality, not a construct where one debates whether or not to take up smoking or drinking or anything else. Some things just happen...
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