Does this seem right to you?

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Jazzman

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I do, as I stated, many don't know the difference, hence the belief only closed systems will be allowed...

The federal government is big and slow. They will wait until the government funded 5 or more year studies are completed to do much of anything significant...

Can you focus for a minute Steve? We are talking about the proposed FDA regs, not an entirely different subject. Leading this thread astray does not add value to the topic.
 

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Can you focus for a minute Steve? We are talking about the proposed FDA regs, not an entirely different subject. Leading this thread astray does not add value to the topic.


Yes, I have read them. I think many have not and don't understand the difference between them and the BT proposals, hence why so many think vaping as we know it is over...

Good for vendors, I guess...
 

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Yes, I have read them. I think many have not and don't understand the difference between them and the BT proposals, hence why so many think vaping as we know it is over...

Good for vendors, I guess...
Or maybe it's because we don't use BT products and plan on moving to Prague to escape the regulations.

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Can you focus for a minute Steve? We are talking about the proposed FDA regs, not an entirely different subject. Leading this thread astray does not add value to the topic.

Read what steve says Closely.

He never comes out and says that "Deeming" will not happen. Or that the FDA Rules Can't Potentially Devastate the e-Cigarette Market. Only that it Won't happen for Awhile.

It is Typical Head in the Sand Thinking.

It Won't happen Today. So Everything is Fine.
 

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Read what steve says Closely.

He never comes out and says that "Deeming" will not happen. Or that the FDA Rules Can't Potentially Devastate the e-Cigarette Market. Only that it Won't happen for Awhile.

It is Typical Head in the Sand Thinking.

It Won't happen Today. So Everything is Fine.
No

Typical convince someone else to stick their head in the sand thinking.

He's admitted he doesn't care what happens to us because he's moving to Prague.

He thinks (maybe right) he has time to escape before he's affected.

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Typical convince someone else to stick their head in the sand thinking.

He's admitted he doesn't care what happens to us because he's moving to Prague.

Tapatyped

What time is his Flight? I'll Chip In for the Taxi.

Hell... I'll pay the for the Whole Thing.
 

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Angry letters and postings on forums won't prevent regulation. Many also believe it is about money, so unless one has more money than the 'other side' nothing will prevent regulations. I know it is hard to believe, but the FDA has many other projects and vaping isn't as big as many seem to believe... They will be directed to do enough to appease the left for now...
 

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and it's not just at the federal level that we have to keep fighting I have been sending emails constantly to all of the Ohio reps because they are pushing hard to tax the living heck out of ecig/liquid. Sure... thank god the insane taxation the governor tried to push through got shot down but there are many more stepping right up trying to get a tax bill put through.
 

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Angry letters and postings on forums won't prevent regulation. Many also believe it is about money, so unless one has more money than the 'other side' nothing will prevent regulations. I know it is hard to believe, but the FDA has many other projects and vaping isn't as big as many seem to believe...
Then don't get angry.

Problem solved.

I'm not angry. Just embarrassed for you.

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Angry letters and postings on forums won't prevent regulation. ...

OK... So what is the Difference then if I or Others choose to Do It?

Seems like No Skin Off your Nose.

I'm Not even sure why you Always seem to come to Advocacy Threads? All you bring to the Table is same Old Line.

"Nothing is Going to Happen."

Why Don't you just Put that in your Signature and save the ECF a Lot of Bandwidth?
 

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I've seen it suggested that local regulations never get passed, and when they do they're never really that bad, so it's not really something to worry about. I've also seen the same person post, after horrible local regulations are passed, that it's their own fault because not enough people did anything about it. There's a reason why I mostly choose not to interact with some people. It tends to take away from the topic at hand.
 
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