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yes help`s to quit smoking. in the first mount was hard, but in time i reduce the nicotine level. Now i have nine mounts with electronic cigarette, and use 9 mg/ml e-liquid.
It can help, I gave up vaping for a while because I tried to drop MGs too soon and went back to smoking in the car and Thunder Frosted extra stark when I wasn't smoking. Started back a week or so ago and now I have to use 48mg and 36mg to get that same satisfaction. I have found that quitting smoking decrease the available funds in my bank account though because "bump it, I got 30 bottles of juice but I've been watching Youtube reviews on this one and I want it."
I think 23 years was how long they smoked for and stoped after first vape.
That is probably true for a significant fraction of electronic cigarette users.
But it doesn't explain the significant fraction of those who quit without trying, expecting to, or even wanting to.
I smoked for 15 years and quit the day my first PV arrived. My parents smoked for 50 years, and they tried my PV. That day I placed an order for them overnight shipping! So to quit smoking after 50 years! Yes they help.
It takes a bit of time! I cheated a few times when starting out, but the payoff outweighs the big C! Stick with it frieind!
My PV is working great so far. Trick (for me) was getting the Nicotine mg/ml dialed in to my need and finding a flavor I really like. I started with the 18mg cartos that came with my kit, but they didn't completely cut the analog cravings. After loading some 24mg juice the cravings were gone completely. 34 hours now since my first vape and no tobacco since.
Finding a couple really tasty flavors out of the 20 or so samples that I ordered from around the net helped a lot. AVEjuice.com's Root beer tastes just like a Barq's. And myPVshop.com's Coffee is like a Caramel Frappucino. Mmm.
And even after just 34 hours they taste better than they did initially. Taste buds already improving.
Finding a couple really tasty flavors out of the 20 or so samples that I ordered from around the net helped a lot. AVEjuice.com's Root beer tastes just like a Barq's. And myPVshop.com's Coffee is like a Caramel Frappucino. Mmm.
And even after just 34 hours they taste better than they did initially. Taste buds already improving.
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I started Vaping on a Monday and was Smoking + Chewing, after a morning of using my ECIG I never went back to either.
I was committed to quitting tobacco, but I still wanted to smoke. E-cigs worked perfectly for me. I just bought better hardware to celebrate a year without tobacco.
I tend to disagree with this but understand where you're coming from. I think many people could use it as replacement if they found the right juice and right feel.
I never looked back since my first vape. Shame my ecig broke down after 3 weeks. Smoked for 3 days while waiting for a replacement. YUK!!
I think for the most part it depends on factors you weren't expecting to have to evaluate -- i.e. what was it about smoking cigarettes that mattered most to you that the E-cig was or was not able to provide? For me, the critical factor was throat hit. If it didn't feel like a cigarette in that regard, I'm quite sure it wouldn't have worked well for me. But throat hit is not the critical or the only factor for some. Some place higher value on vapor production or flavour, some miss the smell or taste of burning tobacco, some unconsciously miss the MAOIs or WTAs.
There's also the question of what the person trying E-cigs for the first time expected of the devices in the first place. If they mentally psyched themselves up for an experience that first device didn't or couldn't provide, the disappointment can cause them to still smoke or go entirely back to cigarettes. For me, I really didn't know what to expect. I'd hoped that they'd work well but the fact that it's the sort of thing that becomes a very personal experience in how it hits you kept me from forming any preconceptions about what it would be like when it got here.
Then too there's comfort and familiarity. For some cigarettes are a security blanket, and the thought of being without them makes some people very anxious, even while they are vaping in between cigarettes. Smokes are comfortable and familiar and E-cigs can't quite stand in for that, even if it's an automatic 510 or 808 of similar size and colouration to most closely simulate cigarettes.
As always, everyone is different on all of these fronts, so how well it works on that first try is going to be different for everyone. For me, I was part of that "significant fraction" because E-cigs ticked all of the most important boxes for me, and the rest weren't a hardship for me to adjust to.
All very good points Mindfield. I was one of those who came in with no preconcieved notions at all.
In the beginning, I thought that I wanted something that looked and tasted like a analog. After finding the ECF and reading a little, I found that a device looking like a analog really wasn't of any concern. After reading a little more, I found that I probably wouldn't get anything that actually tasted like an analog either. Settled with this, it seemed that my craving for nicotine would be of the most concern so I went with somethat that was recommended for my style of smoking analogs and made sure that I grabbed some juice in strenghts and tastes that I thought I'd like.
Long story short, my PV arrived yesterday and I took my first vape at around 4pm. It's now coming up on 12pm the next day and I've yet to touch another analog (even though I do have a 1/2 pack that I stuffed into the drawer just in case. Will it last??? Who knows but I do know that at this point in time my PV has kept me satisfied.
The two main test were waking up this morning and having a vape instead of a smoke. Next, after breakfast I had anothe vape and I'm completely satisfied.
In the beginning, I thought that I wanted something that looked and tasted like a analog. After finding the ECF and reading a little, I found that a device looking like a analog really wasn't of any concern. After reading a little more, I found that I probably wouldn't get anything that actually tasted like an analog either. Settled with this, it seemed that my craving for nicotine would be of the most concern so I went with somethat that was recommended for my style of smoking analogs and made sure that I grabbed some juice in strenghts and tastes that I thought I'd like.
Long story short, my PV arrived yesterday and I took my first vape at around 4pm. It's now coming up on 12pm the next day and I've yet to touch another analog (even though I do have a 1/2 pack that I stuffed into the drawer just in case. Will it last??? Who knows but I do know that at this point in time my PV has kept me satisfied.
The two main test were waking up this morning and having a vape instead of a smoke. Next, after breakfast I had anothe vape and I'm completely satisfied.
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So very true...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ou-put-down-those-last-couple-cigarettes.html
You don't know what you don't know until you know you don't know it.
Almost every person that decides to try an electronic cigarette wants one the size of a cigarette.
And they all want one that tastes like their brand of cigarette.
They have no idea that most of the time these are not the most important things.
They have no idea about all of the factors that are really important.
But the worst part is, without the help of this forum, they have no idea there are solutions for every issue.
And so it doesn't surprise me at all when someone who isn't on this forum fails with an electronic cigarette.
There is no doubt electronic cigarettes can help you quit smoking.
There is also no doubt that this forum is just as important, if not more so.
Fantastic! I'm glad to hear you're taking so well to it. My experience is almost the exact twin. I got home from work on the Friday it had arrived, put it together, filled the cart, and had my first vape. I was so impressed -- floored, really -- that I just kept vaping all night. Didn't even want a cigarette, didn't even need one. The next morning, I had a vape instead of a smoke, and once again I was astounded at how satisfying it was, and I just didn't need a cigarette. It was awesome. I felt amazingly free of the shackles of cigarettes, even though it had only been less than 24 hours at that point, yet I just knew it was working and would continue to do so.
Naturally there were still stumbling blocks along the way, but each one in turn was solved, even if it took a while for some. There's a lot to learn, but if you ask lots of questions -- and learn that there are questions you might not have thought to ask -- the experience is quite unlike anything else.
So very true...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ou-put-down-those-last-couple-cigarettes.html
You don't know what you don't know until you know you don't know it.
Almost every person that decides to try an electronic cigarette wants one the size of a cigarette.
And they all want one that tastes like their brand of cigarette.
They have no idea that most of the time these are not the most important things.
They have no idea about all of the factors that are really important.
But the worst part is, without the help of this forum, they have no idea there are solutions for every issue.
And so it doesn't surprise me at all when someone who isn't on this forum fails with an electronic cigarette.
There is no doubt electronic cigarettes can help you quit smoking.
There is also no doubt that this forum is just as important, if not more so.
Precisely. It isn't just the questions you want answers to, it's the questions you never knew you needed to ask. I'd wager that there are many people for whom something is missing, but they don't really know how to articulate what it is, or really that there is something missing that can be fixed. For me, for example, I started out with 18mg liquids, and I thought that was fine. The throat hit was there, the nicotine was there, and it was enough to be satisfying -- but only just. I still felt like something wasn't quite there, but didn't even think it was something I needed to ask about or that there was a solution to that anyone could provide. I just thought, "this is the experience, so I just have to take it on those grounds." It took some time before I decided, after certain issues and problems and as a way to prove I'd figured out the solution, to get some stronger liquid. And as soon as I did, it was like the curtains suddenly being drawn on a bright and sunny day: It was perfect. I wasn't only just satisfied, I was well satisfied.
So, having discovered what it really was that I was missing, I felt like I was totally free to experiment now on tweaking the experience in the smaller, less important ways: Trying different cartos and devices and flavours and such. That was last April and I've made massive strides since then with my tweaking and have managed to tweak my experience perhaps too well, as I've had to cut my nicotine in half and I'm still getting loads of TH and vapor to the point where I actually hit that wall of getting just a bit too much nicotine.
But you are right: E-cigs have come a long way even in the last year or two, and now there is a solution to just about every problem. But without places like this to help highlight and underline those solutions, it can be difficult for a newbie to get that experience they really want out of it. But all we can do is be here and hope they find us, because when they do, they'll get the real 411.
I'm sure that willpower helps. But I think you are underestimating the help people get from vaping. Some people, at least.
There are a lot of people who are vaping now instead of smoking who tried quitting other ways (cold turkey, gum, patches, etc) and never managed to stop that way.
Then they try vaping and quit smoking.
I think it's unlikely that the willpower level of these individuals suddenly skyrocketed. It seems far more likely that vaping helped them.
I cut back from 2 packs a day to 10 a day in the first month. After that I slowly cut out the 10 down to 5. Now I am smoke free, besides a few set backs when my batteries all died and I did not have back up. But once I got up and running again no need to smoke. So yes it does help quit, or at the very least cut back.
Edit: I really should reread my post for spelling errors.
Edit: I really should reread my post for spelling errors.
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