"Dr" Oz today on e-cigs

[Just Me]

Sorry if anyone has already started a discussion about this--I couldn't find it if there is one.

The first segment on his show today was about e-cigs. He interviewed two "experts", both women. One was a doctor, the other, I forgot what title she held, but...

I was livid!!!!!!! I'm very glad I didn't take my blood pressure after watching it; I probably would have shorted out the BP machine.

Then again, I went on to watch what I could catch of the rest of the show. About 45 minutes into the show, during a commercial break, there was a commercial for...wait for it...............

...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Nicoderm CQ patches!!!!!!!!!!!

If Oz or his guests had recommended e-cigs, well, that would have been somewhat of a conflict of interests, now wouldn't it....!

The saddest part is that many people watch this thing (hosted by A DOCTOR) and shrink away from what might save their lives. Very, very sad.

 

[ImThatGuy]

Who actually takes Hollywood doctors seriously?

 

[stevegmu]

Definitely a conspiracy here. Commercials are decided by hosts of television programs, not those who sell advertising time on television shows...

Years ago I was watching the Duggars and an ad for the Plan B pill came on. I was shocked they would sell out like that...

 

[dbrandt01]

People still take that dude seriously? With all of the bad clueless nonsense he keeps saying. It's a wonder he even has a job still. I'd rather keep my TV off than watch him.

 

[Big Me]

I was under the impression that this Oz person was some kind of quack that promoted what used to be termed "snake oil", i.e useless supplements and whatnot.

TBH, the longer he stays away from vaping the better I'll like it. Lol

 

[Fit_Four_Life]

And here we can read all about how Dr. Oz's recommendation to detox by juicing is cut to shreds with real science.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain* - The Blog of Michael R. Eades, M.D.

 

[AXIOM_1]

Sorry if anyone has already started a discussion about this--I couldn't find it if there is one.

The first segment on his show today was about e-cigs. He interviewed two "experts", both women. One was a doctor, the other, I forgot what title she held, but...

I was livid!!!!!!! I'm very glad I didn't take my blood pressure after watching it; I probably would have shorted out the BP machine.

Then again, I went on to watch what I could catch of the rest of the show. About 45 minutes into the show, during a commercial break, there was a commercial for...wait for it...............

...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Nicoderm CQ patches!!!!!!!!!!!

If Oz or his guests had recommended e-cigs, well, that would have been somewhat of a conflict of interests, now wouldn't it....!

The saddest part is that many people watch this thing (hosted by A DOCTOR) and shrink away from what might save their lives. Very, very sad.

Go figure...... Do you remember what they said?

 

[Rocketpunk]

Don't worry. The people who take him seriously should never be taken seriously.

 

[Fit_Four_Life]

Half of Dr. Oz's Advice Unproven or Wrong: Study

 

[stevegmu]

Every year studies come out which refute other studies only to have them reversed the next year...

 

[AXIOM_1]

Every year studies come out which refute other studies only to have them reversed the next year...

The Yo-Yo effect

 

[stevegmu]

The Yo-Yo effect

That's how modern research works. Keeps them busy and the government grant money flowing...

 

[Fit_Four_Life]

Every year studies come out which refute other studies only to have them reversed the next year...

The history of science is essentially the history of most scientists being wrong about most things most of the time. From our current vantage point, we can look back at the scientists of 100 years ago and see numerous examples of where their knowledge was incomplete, misguided, or simply inaccurate. What makes us think the same won’t be true for scientists 100 years in the future? Why are we so certain that the answers we have today won’t be replaced by the answers of tomorrow?

Of course we’ve already seen this play out on a shorter time scale.

Up until recently (and still today in some circles), the majority of scientists agreed that eating saturated fat and dietary cholesterol causes heart disease. But today we have numerous studies showing that intake of saturated fat and cholesterol is not strongly associated with heart disease after all.At one point it was believed that antibiotics were practically miracle drugs, with virtually no downside. But today we know that they can profoundly disrupt the gut microbiome, which has diverse and potentially serious consequences.Just two decades ago, mentioning the phrase “leaky gut” would have labeled you a quack in scientific or medical circles. But today, it’s one of the hottest topics in scientific research, and it has been identified as a causative or contributing factor in numerous chronic diseases.

There’s no doubt that science is progressing. The quality of the research we have today is higher than what we had 100 years ago, and it is thus more reliable and less likely to lead us astray.

Why Are Scientists and the Public So Often At Odds?

 

[AXIOM_1]

meanwhile the government spends millions of dollars having people study the jumping pattern of grasshoppers

 

[bluecat]

Dr Oz is surprisingly well respected surgeon. Well I think surgeon. He is also famous for peddling merchandise he is a partner of which goes way beyond medical ethics.

His very first ecig segment he was positive on them. Someone must have paid him well to change his tune.

He has become a quack.

 

[stevegmu]

meanwhile the government spends millions of dollars having people study the jumping pattern of grasshoppers

I saw one study where researchers were paid to find the most obscure study. The winner was a study to find out why shower curtains concave towards the steam in a shower...

 

[bluecat]

The history of science is essentially the history of most scientists being wrong about most things most of the time. From our current vantage point, we can look back at the scientists of 100 years ago and see numerous examples of where their knowledge was incomplete, misguided, or simply inaccurate. What makes us think the same won’t be true for scientists 100 years in the future? Why are we so certain that the answers we have today won’t be replaced by the answers of tomorrow?

Of course we’ve already seen this play out on a shorter time scale.

Up until recently (and still today in some circles), the majority of scientists agreed that eating saturated fat and dietary cholesterol causes heart disease. But today we have numerous studies showing that intake of saturated fat and cholesterol is not strongly associated with heart disease after all.At one point it was believed that antibiotics were practically miracle drugs, with virtually no downside. But today we know that they can profoundly disrupt the gut microbiome, which has diverse and potentially serious consequences.Just two decades ago, mentioning the phrase “leaky gut” would have labeled you a quack in scientific or medical circles. But today, it’s one of the hottest topics in scientific research, and it has been identified as a causative or contributing factor in numerous chronic diseases.

There’s no doubt that science is progressing. The quality of the research we have today is higher than what we had 100 years ago, and it is thus more reliable and less likely to lead us astray.

Why Are Scientists and the Public So Often At Odds?

Man made global warming is the perfect show of this.

 

[stevegmu]

Dr Oz is surprisingly well respected surgeon. Well I think surgeon. He is also famous for peddling merchandise he is a partner of which goes way beyond medical ethics.

His very first ecig segment he was positive on them. Someone must have paid him well to change his tune.

He has become a quack.

Definitely the work of ANTS and BT...

 

[AXIOM_1]

Dr Oz is surprisingly well respected surgeon. Well I think surgeon. He is also famous for peddling merchandise he is a partner of which goes way beyond medical ethics.

His very first ecig segment he was positive on them. Someone must have paid him well to change his tune.

He has become a quack.

agreed..... correct

 

[Fit_Four_Life]

Man made global warming is the perfect show of this.