Drippers: Remove the bridge?

[Sardonic]

Been doing the dry burn and blowing on atty. seems to work very well. I actually use a drinking straw to blow thru so it directs the air right into the atty. Using PT when I burn it.

I just cleaned one of my bridgeless dripping attys for the first time since starting it's use. About 2 weeks I'd say. I don't think I'm going to do that again, it's seems just a waste of time. Drip, dry, burn-glow, change flavor. Drastic flavor changes take a while to propagate, so I just use different atty's for different flavor groups. Going to try that for a while and see how it goes. I'm not willing to invest any more time in this hobby than is necessary to make it right without overkill.....(I think).

 

[hova]

at this point,for me, I'm done trying to mod,I just drip, and to change flavors I just blow out through the bottom , and change up...


I like the carto idea though...simple but elegant . this may have been overlooked ...

 

[Smix]

Just tried this on one of my working attys (I have a tendency of losing my dead ones).

I'm currently holding some nichrome wire. Epic fail!

Ah well, I'll try it on my new atty once it dies.

Thanks for all the tips everyone

 

[Sardonic]

I just put on a cartridge with stock fill to see what it's like now after a few weeks of the spring mod and dripping.....one word......sucks.
I'm taking apart all of my cartridges, doing the spring mod on those, then I'm buying atty's and drip tips for a decent round of flavors (dedicated to each). Screw fill.

 

[misantroll]

I do this with all my attys now and getting pretty good at it. Now I never flood any of them... very cool to gain experience in the vaping world

 

[kj4lxw]

Well my little dripping experience to add here.

Last couple of days every time I do the dry burn I keep getting constant smoke coming out of the atty (using 510).
I use a drinking straw, blowing through that into the atty as I burn. I thought maybe that had something to do with it, maybe placing moisture into the atty? I had no idea. So tonight I'm at right and I find one of those big Sherlock Holmes type magnifying glasses after reading a thread showing macro shots inside of an atty.

So I illuminate with flshlight and look inside. I notice portion of wick material that was still attached to coil. Get the tweezers and remove it. Most of it was pretty black. Now no smoke when dry burning.
So I would say that removing the wick is helpful. on this atty the wick was attached on both end of the coil very secure and had to be pulled and picked out a little at a time till it was all gone.
On the other atty that I got recently, which were stated as not genuine Joye, when I went to remove the mesh to make it bridgeless, the wick practically fell out unaided. looks like the wick was only threaded through under the bridge and held in place by the mesh itself.
Complete removal of wicking fibres will be what I strive for in the future when converting attys, ymmv.

 

[Fitdiculous]

interesting thread.. haven't tried this yet as I don't have many spare attys yet... do you guys find that this diminishes the life of an atty? or it's really no different if the bridge was on and you either dripped or used a cart?

 

[Sardonic]

I have two bridge-less that I use daily. I have several that are intact and out of them all, I've lost only one. The one I lost was one of the intact ones. This is not exactly empirical evidence, but for now my pattern is that the bridge-less factor doesn't affect overall life of the atty. Till further notice.

interesting thread.. haven't tried this yet as I don't have many spare attys yet... do you guys find that this diminishes the life of an atty? or it's really no different if the bridge was on and you either dripped or used a cart?

 

[Broseybrose]

i removed the bridge from my 510 "dripping atty" and it no longer produces voluminous vapor! weak weak weak, if any vapor at all. im almost positive it is an issue with the juice - either too much or too little is reaching the coil. ive tried 1 drop, 2 drops, 3 drops, 4 drops... ive tried holding my Riva in various positions trying to get gravity to help the situation out - no go.

here's a pic (sorry for flash glare)

i know i didnt mess my atty up. coil still glows orange right away. any tips? anything at all to help me resolve this situation?

Eternal Thanks!

 

[fmx]

How did I not know about this already? Thanks for posting and for the vids. My Provape is making clouds right now.

 

[DC2]

So nobody else is going to answer one of the original questions.


I'm still trying to determine what happens when you run low on juice.
Do you STILL get that nasty burnt taste or not really?

And if not, what DO you taste when it gets dry?

Don't make me pull the bridge of this old atomizer I have sitting here.
I am far too lazy for that.

 

[kj4lxw]

DC2, here is what I am experiencing so far though I'm sure it differs for each person.
I drip 1-2 drops and vape.
Can get anywhere from 10-20 hits, not sure as I always loose count when I try to keep track.
Eventually I get to a point that the taste changes. There is a little of that "burnt" taste. It is noticeable, but not drastic to where I gag.

If I am inpatient I will add ONE drop. I add one because when I add two drops I get the gurgly-itist going in my 510 atty. Dripping 1 drop seems to keep the flow going for me.

If I am lazy I just keep vaping. It seems, to me, that it depends on the juice what happens.
It might become more harsh and burnt tasting, or the taste just starts to diminish along with vapor production.

Thats just what I have found and it can, of course go differently for you or someone else.
Seems to me that the thinner/ lighter the juice, the less "burning" at the end. Like I said I have found my sweet spot with the single drip to keep the vape going, then when I'm ready to put it down I keep up a few more vapes without re-dripping.
Sometimes I will drip in a drop of plain VG and get a few good cloudy its before putting it down. Don't know if it really helps, but it appears to me to help clear the atty of the flavor and keep it primed for the next use.
Also sometimes when I drip I will give it a little shake or a few taps to help the juice settle and maybe even a quick monetary dry burn to help the juice soak in before hitting it.

 

[kj4lxw]

Broseybrose,
that coil looks pretty dark, have you done the dry burn as described/advised earlier in the thread?
I found on my atty when I first started I wasn't burning it enough, being afraid of frying it out, but one night I got ballsy and tried to, as she described, make them "cry". I dry burned for a good little bit until it started to show some glow to the coil because it was caked so so much.
If you feel safe with it, keep burning and burning while blowing on it until it starts to smoke. Then keep going some more. You will then see the coil start to glow, maybe just faintly, maybe just one side.
Then keep going until it all glows.

I finally shelved the original atty I "de-meshed" today. It gave me alot of good vapes, but it seems that now it won't glow up too well and peters out easily. Tomorrow I will try doing an extensive dry burn on it and see if it helps, but I think this one has run its course. Works great o my 5v pt but not really performing to well on 3v battery.

one thing I try to keep in mind is that all of these components have a finite life and are not meant to last very long.
If it last a few months then thats great but if it only lasts 2-3 weeks it shouldn't be a surprise.

Back in 2000' I developed a flashlight fetish and joined a forum called CPF (google it).
Many great bargain flashlights were to be found in the following years that were supposed to do a great many things, and most produced and sold out of China.
Well I see ALOT of parallels between those Chinese flashlights and what I've found in e-cigs.
Basically QC fluctuates from one end of the scale to the next. Just as with those flashlights you can take any two products that were made side by side and one will out perform its advertised limits and the other will fail miserably.
This seems to be the price we pay for inexpensive products.

The only way to ensure one had a blazing eyeball scorching flashlight that performed consistently was to mod one yourself or buy one that was modded by others. Many turnkey flashlight makers came about creating awesome led lights and they were expensive.
Eventually it all caught on and we see led lights where they are today.

Hopefully this is what will happen with e-cigs.

Point I'm getting at is we can only expect so much from the equipment we are using, and imho, results are going to vary so our expectations should be on par with that.

 

[kj4lxw]

Ok now here we go.
About that atty I was going to shelf, earlier today it was performing dismally.

Just now I did a good dry burn and primed it with a drop of VG. Vaping volumes now on the PT.
Put it on batt, both auto and manual, and as good as it can get for using those.

Inconsistent. Was it low battery earlier? Not sure, was using it n 650mA Tornado at that time. Go figure.
Can be frustrating at times.

 

[AvalonMyst]

Ok, I saw the video, read thru the posts and decided to rip apart the atty I've been using to drip(looks black and gunky atm) I put it on my Chuck. I vape at 3.7v and can I say WOW!!!!!
The vapor is amazing, the taste is fantastic. I get more of what the flavor should be now. I'm so glad I ran into this post.

Now for my question.

Can you still clean the atty like you normally would? ie, vinegar, isopropyl alcohol, crest health pro, water, like most people do?

 

[kj4lxw]

Well I don't clean in that fashion but if you do try it please post about it so we all can learn from you experience.

 

[misantroll]

Cleaning is not a problem. I did the mouthwash cleaning a while back with only bridgeless attys and it worked fine !

 

[dawhoo]

Just took the bridge out an old nasty atty. It was retired because the taste was nasty and had been cleaned many/many times. I've had this one in a drawer for 4 months, so I wasn't worried about messing it up. Did the dry burn test, removed every little particle of wicking (there was still some inside the coils). Repeated the dry-burn-blow method until there was no vapor coming out. This too a much longer time than I expected. I am now using the old atty and it's not bad. It's not brand-new-broken-in good, but it definitely gave some new life to an old atty.

don't think I would do this to a new atty, but I may try it soon.

 

[kj4lxw]

Well I'm glad you could ressurect an old atty and get some more use out of it.

Right now I'm switching between two attys to drip. One stock the other bridge less.
I'm finding with the bridge less I use only 1 drop so it doesn't flood. With the intact atty I use 2 drops.
Working on seeing which juices work better on which atty. The more clear and "watery" juices seem to do well on either. Jury still out and testing on the thicker darker juices.

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Thought I would add this.
Using 510 attys. Sometimes I may have dripped too soon or for whatever reason I get the gurgles coming from the atty when I hit it. I get taste but no or very very little vapor.
In thats case I remove atty and give just 1 or two quick little whistle toots blowwing excess juice into a tissue and replace and on first hit I get a nice big cloud, all starts working as it should after that.

 

[AJS95060]

What is the bridge for? What is it supposed to do?