DTL vaping?

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JCinFLA

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JCinFLA, I did try with the 0,8 coil and all holes open on Zenith tank with 15 W and this one I tested with 0 nic juice. I did like it, but I feel the Zenith not so open in terms of airflow, but I enjoy it. Will test this with my NIC juices also.

When you opened all the AF holes and used the 0.8ohm coil...did you also use a drip tip with a larger center hole (bore) when you did it? If you used either of the regular Zenith drip tips, it's still most likely limiting the amount of vapor you can get with each DL puff you're taking. The 2 regular Zenith drip tips are for MTL vaping.

Now I see what everyone says, I thought I did DTL when smoking analogs, but it was surely mostly MTL...

It's hard to know, because who ever asked themselves if they were smoking MTL or DTL...when they were a smoker? I know I didn't, because I'd never even heard of MTL or DTL until I started vaping. :)

I'm glad you're finding out what works best for you. We all try different things to find it. That's part of the journey with vaping.
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Hi, JCinFla

My bad, I didnt :) I will separate the larger drip tip and test it out.

When I talk about smokers and DTL x MTL, its because most friends, even ones that still smoke, when I ask them, they seem to THINK they drag direct to lungs... I did, my wife did too... But now we notice its not true.

Yeah, true about our journey. I was 5 years without 1 analog, as I had written. I had a small slip, but Im back on track now :) Maybe I had to reinvent my vaping methods hehe :)

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Hi, JCinFla

My bad, I didnt :) I will separate the larger drip tip and test it out.

When I talk about smokers and DTL x MTL, its because most friends, even ones that still smoke, when I ask them, they seem to THINK they drag direct to lungs... I did, my wife did too... But now we notice its not true.

Yeah, true about our journey. I was 5 years without 1 analog, as I had written. I had a small slip, but Im back on track now :) Maybe I had to reinvent my vaping methods hehe :)

Thanks!!

I might be wrong, but there are people I know that smoke without inhaling the smoke into their lungs. Maybe your friends thought the question was if they are inhaling it or not? Maybe that's what they meant? That they inhale it? At least that's how I smoked the first week when I tried to be cool in school 20+ years ago. Puff and blow, and then I learned to puff, inhale and exhale. I even have a friend who swallows the smoke into his stomach and tries to burp it out. Yeah, he burps with smoke but that's not my thing. :unsure: Anyways, at least you know now and know what you meant. Cheers man!
 
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My bad, I didnt :) I will separate the larger drip tip and test it out.

If by this..."I will separate the larger drip tip and test it out".... you mean the larger of the 2 drip tips that came with the Zenith...you don't want to use either of those. Both of them are for MTL. You need 1 with a much larger hole (bore) for DTL, than either of those have. :thumbs:
 

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Actually...since the PG/VG "particles" containing the nicotine are larger than the combusted smoke "particles" containing the nicotine...much less nicotine is absorbed by the lungs when vaping (vs. smoking)…
Thx, I didn’t know all that :)
It took some practice to stop inhaling, but it’s totally worth it. As I stated before, you need to either use TC or a low wattage setting, since you can’t draw on it a lot to cool the vapor down.
 

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JCinFla. Thanks :) yeah, thats what I meant. can you send a picture of such one? Anyway, I dont have any other ones, I think I threw tips I had away, they werent very good.

What is strange also is, using Ello Vate 0,15 ohm + iStick, im easily coughing after the hit. I have to lower down to 15 W (trying all holes open or partially open) to not cough. Maybe try with juice that has more VG. Any other tip? Maybe Id have better experience with 0,3...

or maybe its temperature related? I havent messed around with TC at all, but I guess not related, right?

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JCinFla. Thanks :) yeah, thats what I meant. can you send a picture of such one? Anyway, I dont have any other ones, I think I threw tips I had away, they werent very good.

I don't have any tanks that are for DTL vaping, nor the drip tips for them. Many people who DTL vape also often use an RDA or another RBA, too. Most of them I've seen...have the much larger 810 drip tip, instead of the smaller 510 drip tip. The 810 is even much larger even at the very bottom, because the openings for them are much larger too, on RDAs and other RBAs for DTL.

But, if you even have a drip tip like the 1 shown on the left in my pic below...you might be able to get a better DTL hit (though still not a true DTL hit) with your Zenith. That one is from my TopTank Mini tank. The one on the right is the larger of the 2 that comes with the Zenith tanks. Both of them are 510 drip tips though.

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The red line above them shows the actual width of the hole, all the way down to where the 510 bottom starts and the o-rings are. See how much narrower the hole width is on the Zenith drip tip? The hole at the very bottom is the same size on each one though. it's also that same smaller size in the Zenith tank lid (if you look down into where the drip tip goes). So, even with a drip tip like the one on the left, you'll still be somewhat limited in the amount of vapor you can get through it in each DTL hit.

What is strange also is, using Ello Vate 0,15 ohm + iStick, im easily coughing after the hit. I have to lower down to 15 W (trying all holes open or partially open) to not cough. Maybe try with juice that has more VG. Any other tip? Maybe Id have better experience with 0,3...

With your Ello Vate, IMO it couldn't hurt to try the other things you mentioned: 1) eliquid that's higher in VG, to help cut down on the harsh hit and therefore your coughing, 2) trying a higher ohm coil, and/or 3) trying different temperatures. Many of us have to try several things to find the perfect vape for us. You never know what'll work for you, until you try different things to fine tune it.
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ETA: Here's a link so you can go take a look at a comparison of 510 drip tips (used on MTL tanks, RTAs, etc.) and the larger 810 drip tips (used on most DTL tanks, RDAs, and other RBAs). You can see why an 810 DTL drip tip isn't going to fit in the drip tip hole on a MTL tank.

$5.65 Resin 510 Drip Tip + 810 Drip Tip Set (4 Pieces) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 
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