Dvarw MTL RTA & MTL FL (clones)

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I'm hoping for common sense improvements and new independent trade deals with China but we will have to see.
In the meantime the new kayfun lite arrived and I knew I'd like it as I liked the old one. I've not really enjoyed kayfuns since the v3 mini which was my go to during a bit of a dry spell for mtl and with so many great atomisers lately the last thing I needed is another to put into rotation but I'm finding I pick it up more than the dvarw. Few o rings to perish, solid but simple enough to know your not risking breaking it when out and about.
A wide airflow choice that you can set and leave, no fussy deck due to bottom fill and a whole lot quicker to rewick without the top cap (especially when your a manabush fan and have to rework every two days).
The sxk clone arrived on Friday too and I've set that up and it's in use. Absolutely zero difference visually except the airflow grub screw being made from steel rather than nylon and in blind testing I'm afraid I found zero flavour differences.
Nice to have the genuine as I feel I've paid the piper but will undoubtedly buy another couple of sxk's.
Who know Our politicians are flapping an practically unfit for office,
3 year to do a deal and cant agree on anything fools the lot of them.

I have been waiting for a Colbri v6 mod from Amerpoint with a spare chip dam Russia has a lot of customs been through 6 or 7 and still not left Russia yet now there is another 3 days since screen shot was taken which tracking now shows a few other russian offices its visited ontop of whats in pic lol,
I picked up a authentic Dvarw-22 MTL RTA this weekend , locally from someone so made me very happy
and just had a malu bf mod land so have my genuine pelso v3 on top,
I had been on a spending spree incase we do leave without a deal its a guess of either sterling drops in value or shipping becomes delayed ,
stocked up on FA concentrate too whilst I could since other come from states, now need to pick up the glass tank and bograt airflow ring.

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So I got my Dvarw clone yesterday. I went for this version:

$13.80 Coppervape Dvarw MTL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 5ml / 316 stainless steel + PC / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Never tried any Coppervape clones before since I mainly bought SXK Kayfun's and mechs in the past. Overall I think the machining is seriously good for the price. Absolutely no machine oil smell but I still gave everything a good rinse and then lubed up the O-rings.

Only slight issue was the chamber ring which took a bit of effort to remove the first time. Post screws are good which was a surprise since most clones I tried way back in the past seemed like they made of cheese. Not usually a fan of hex screws but these ones work well. Good Allen key included that feels sturdy. Drip tip is ghastly but who cares, easy to replace with a better one.

Put in a build using 28 gauge A1 Kanthal, 2mm coil diameter, 1.0ohms resistance and wicked with cotton bacon v2. Basically I just wicked it like my old Kayfun Lite Plus V2, left the tails long and fed them through the chamber ring, then trimmed them and tucked them down. Primed coil and wicks then fitted the chamber cap.

So far I've gone through 15ml of juice in this tank because I find the flavour seriously impressive. First juice I tried was a strawberry and the Dvarw really did excel. Currently on my second tank's worth of West Country Dairy Deluxe Custard and that juice really does compare well to the vape I get in my Evl Reaper V3. There are noticeable differences, the Reaper offers a much creamier vape with this custard and the vapour has that really dense chewy quality. In the Dvarw it's sweeter with much more prominent vanilla notes. I still need to see how tobacco juices work out in it but at present this tank is in my top 5 of flavour RTA's.

The chamber cap issue people have mentioned only occurred on my third refill but it wasn't a problem since it stays in place when you screw the tank back together after filling.

Lastly airflow pre-installed is 1.2mm which worked out absolutely fine for me. I still bought the other AFC options anyway. Not had a single leak either. Seems to cope fine with 70 VG even with the standard small hole chamber ring but I bought the oval ring as well.

Personally I think for the price it's a bargain and I will need to get a few more of these.
 
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So I got my Dvarw clone yesterday. I went for this version:

$13.80 Coppervape Dvarw MTL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 5ml / 316 stainless steel + PC / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Never tried any Coppervape clones before since I mainly bought SXK Kayfun's and mechs in the past. Overall I think the machining is seriously good for the price. Absolutely no machine oil smell but I still gave everything a good rinse and then lubed up the O-rings.

Only slight issue was the chamber ring which took a bit of effort to remove the first time. Post screws are good which was a surprise since most clones I tried way back in the past seemed like they made of cheese. Not usually a fan of hex screws but these ones work well. Good Allen key included that feels sturdy. Drip tip is ghastly but who cares, easy to replace with a better one.

Put in a build using 28 gauge A1 Kanthal, 2mm coil diameter, 1.0ohms resistance and wicked with cotton bacon v2. Basically I just wicked it like my old Kayfun Lite Plus V2, left the tails long and fed them through the chamber ring, then trimmed them and tucked them down. Primed coil and wicks then fitted the chamber cap.

So far I've gone through 15ml of juice in this tank because I find the flavour seriously impressive. First juice I tried was a strawberry and the Dvarw really did excel. Currently on my second tank's worth of West Country Dairy Deluxe Custard and that juice really does compare well to the vape I get in my Evl Reaper V3. There are noticeable differences, the Reaper offers a much creamier vape with this custard and the vapour has that really dense chewy quality. In the Dvarw it's sweeter with much more prominent vanilla notes. I still need to see how tobacco juices work out in it but at present this tank is in my top 5 of flavour RTA's.

The chamber cap issue people have mentioned only occurred on my third refill but it wasn't a problem since it stays in place when you screw the tank back together after filling.

Lastly airflow pre-installed is 1.2mm which worked out absolutely fine for me. I still bought the other AFC options anyway. Not had a single leak either. Seems to cope fine with 70 VG even with the standard small hole chamber ring but I bought the oval ring as well.

Personally I think for the price it's a bargain and I will need to get a few more of these.
I tried the Dvarw, and really liked it. Was using Doggies at the time, and thought the vape was every bit as good. But too many parts for me, so I gave it away. Now I use this:
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For me, it's the best tobacco mtl vape ever.
 

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So I got my Dvarw clone yesterday. I went for this version:

$13.80 Coppervape Dvarw MTL Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 5ml / 316 stainless steel + PC / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Never tried any Coppervape clones before since I mainly bought SXK Kayfun's and mechs in the past. Overall I think the machining is seriously good for the price. Absolutely no machine oil smell but I still gave everything a good rinse and then lubed up the O-rings.

Only slight issue was the chamber ring which took a bit of effort to remove the first time. Post screws are good which was a surprise since most clones I tried way back in the past seemed like they made of cheese. Not usually a fan of hex screws but these ones work well. Good Allen key included that feels sturdy. Drip tip is ghastly but who cares, easy to replace with a better one.

Put in a build using 28 gauge A1 Kanthal, 2mm coil diameter, 1.0ohms resistance and wicked with cotton bacon v2. Basically I just wicked it like my old Kayfun Lite Plus V2, left the tails long and fed them through the chamber ring, then trimmed them and tucked them down. Primed coil and wicks then fitted the chamber cap.

So far I've gone through 15ml of juice in this tank because I find the flavour seriously impressive. First juice I tried was a strawberry and the Dvarw really did excel. Currently on my second tank's worth of West Country Dairy Deluxe Custard and that juice really does compare well to the vape I get in my Evl Reaper V3. There are noticeable differences, the Reaper offers a much creamier vape with this custard and the vapour has that really dense chewy quality. In the Dvarw it's sweeter with much more prominent vanilla notes. I still need to see how tobacco juices work out in it but at present this tank is in my top 5 of flavour RTA's.

The chamber cap issue people have mentioned only occurred on my third refill but it wasn't a problem since it stays in place when you screw the tank back together after filling.

Lastly airflow pre-installed is 1.2mm which worked out absolutely fine for me. I still bought the other AFC options anyway. Not had a single leak either. Seems to cope fine with 70 VG even with the standard small hole chamber ring but I bought the oval ring as well.

Personally I think for the price it's a bargain and I will need to get a few more of these.

I bought the one that comes with all of the tanks and inserts for around $14 and have been happy with it. I prefer the vape from the Dvarw over the Doggy because of the air flow inserts. I mostly use the Kayfun Prime though.

$14.90 Dvarw MTL V2 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 5ml / 316 stainless steel + PC / 22mm dia. at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

...Not usually a fan of hex screws but these ones work well. Good Allen key included that feels sturdy.

Get yourself a proper 1.5mm hex precision screwdriver and you'll love the hex screws. Unlike slotted or phillips, hex drivers never cam out. I even bought hex screws for my Kayfun Prime.

I have the Wiha 26315 and the Wera 118066. Both are good but I prefer the Wera precision handle and "hexplus" tips. It's easier to find the Wiha for cheap though... I paid around $3.
 

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Ive had the one with all tanks and airflow inserts and the Coppervape version,

Now i have an original authentic again this time a
Version 9 which has slightly larger side airflow and oval juice inlets on chamber ring
2.5mm airflow inserts happy R-DTL draw, ( dam was quite a few hoops to get one again since going popular but glad I did)


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I tried the Dvarw, and really liked it. Was using Doggies at the time, and thought the vape was every bit as good. But too many parts for me, so I gave it away. Now I use this:
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For me, it's the best tobacco mtl vape ever.

Doesn't feel like too many parts to me... Kayfun 4 has way too many parts. I already own the True and commented on it in the thread. Seriously good budget tank and it's in my top 10 but not for the tobacco juices I like to vape. Plus capacity is too small even with the bubble glass.

I bought the one that comes with all of the tanks and inserts for around $14 and have been happy with it. I prefer the vape from the Dvarw over the Doggy because of the air flow inserts. I mostly use the Kayfun Prime though.

$14.90 Dvarw MTL V2 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 5ml / 316 stainless steel + PC / 22mm dia. at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping



Get yourself a proper 1.5mm hex precision screwdriver and you'll love the hex screws. Unlike slotted or phillips, hex drivers never cam out. I even bought hex screws for my Kayfun Prime.

I have the Wiha 26315 and the Wera 118066. Both are good but I prefer the Wera precision handle and "hexplus" tips. It's easier to find the Wiha for cheap though... I paid around $3.

I've had a few atomizers with hex screws in my time and providing the Allen key is decent they aren't usually too much bother. 90% of my RDA's and RTA's tend to have Philips or flathead screws. But might still grab a couple of those hex drivers you mentioned since they're about £4 over here.
 

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...unfortunately some orings are already iffy and ive had this for 1 day only. looks like my true with its silicone topfill will outlast the dvarw.

O-rings are a consumable item like coils. You can replace the o-rings and keep using the atomizer. The o-rings included with made in China atomizers are poor. Industrial o-rings sold in the USA are much better and they're cheap so I stocked up on quality o-rings for my favorite atomizers.
 
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ill try to find better o-rings. the one at the base of the removable chimney is pretty loose.

Here are the sizes for the 16mm and 22mm Dvarw atomizers.

Dvarw 22mm
18×1 (3)
16×1 (1)
11×1 (1)
6×1 (1)

Dvarw 16mm
11×1 (4)
8×1 (1)
4×1 (1)
 

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Shorter is "ok" as long as it's not too small. I also agree that the fact there is nothing to adjust is effing appealing!! (With the interchangeable airflow etc. inserts).

Don't get me wrong, I love my old KFL+, but the ol' problem with the airflow screws always just SLIGHTLY deadjusting over time..is annyoying. (And how incredibly annoying juice control with KF V3 and V5 is, let alone the first Berserker.) Sometimes I want the old Nautilus times back which was just "perfect" out of the box :)

Anyway, also extremely excited for the Dvarw!
 
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