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Amen to that!
Great. Now I'm practicing. *sigh* ;-) -Magnus
OK, maybe I was trying to be polite and ended up being obtuse.
Thank you Magnus!
It's natural, not "bad" or "wrong" to have those feelings, but if we let them eclipse the good feelings, it's ourselves that end up getting hurt.
I take a lot of pills that make me very loopy, and so a lot of what I say doesn't make much sense.
Now I don't know if maybe you are taking some pills that make you a little loopy, too, and please don't be offended or take this the wrong way, but sometimes you come across as a little bit confused.
You express yourself very well, but at the same time, there's a disconnect sometimes in the views you express, they're not always in agreeement with each other.
On more than one occasion, I've seen people here express concern and even very plainly point out that some of the things you say over there, and some things you say over here, have some differences.
There's nothing wrong with being conflicted or being of two minds about something, but if we don't spell that out for people, they're the ones who end up confused.
I think that's why people sometimes ask you to "pick a side."
It may not be your intention, but things like that do sound you're letting those feelings of resentment and bitterness, etc, add onto the wrong that was done to you.
That wasn't something you could control. And it's been pointed out on multiple occasions that you are perfectly justified in feeling anger about that, and hurt, and resentment and all that stuff.
We all have a lot of feelings that are natural and justified, but they aren't all the best choice for which ones we let drive our overall emotions and how we feel about ourselves, others, and life.
We're not required to grant total power for perpetuity to things and people that hurt us. We can feel those feelings, own them - and then let them go, and let ourselves enjoy all the other, good feelings. That's something that we CAN control, and if we can't, we can get help with that.
There is no need for any of us to live our lives consumed by the worst feelings in the jar! You deserve better than that - we all do!
A lot of people get very interested in the science, and those are some of the people who are most likely to post here a lot, so I think it's easy to get a skewed view.
Most people who upgrade to e-cigarettes really do just screw one thing onto another, puff, and enjoy it.
Most of us never develop an interest in any of that tinkering, or getting the latest and greatest new piddleding, and we are certainly not interested in going out into the garage and inventing new devices, which, as you will have learned in your reading, is what the "exploding batteries" are about - not regular people using plain old e-cigarettes that are mass-produced in factories like underpants.
Thank you Magnus!
It's natural, not "bad" or "wrong" to have those feelings, but if we let them eclipse the good feelings, it's ourselves that end up getting hurt.
I take a lot of pills that make me very loopy, and so a lot of what I say doesn't make much sense.
Now I don't know if maybe you are taking some pills that make you a little loopy, too, and please don't be offended or take this the wrong way, but sometimes you come across as a little bit confused.
You express yourself very well, but at the same time, there's a disconnect sometimes in the views you express, they're not always in agreeement with each other.
On more than one occasion, I've seen people here express concern and even very plainly point out that some of the things you say over there, and some things you say over here, have some differences.
There's nothing wrong with being conflicted or being of two minds about something, but if we don't spell that out for people, they're the ones who end up confused.
I think that's why people sometimes ask you to "pick a side."
It may not be your intention, but things like that do sound you're letting those feelings of resentment and bitterness, etc, add onto the wrong that was done to you.
That wasn't something you could control. And it's been pointed out on multiple occasions that you are perfectly justified in feeling anger about that, and hurt, and resentment and all that stuff.
We all have a lot of feelings that are natural and justified, but they aren't all the best choice for which ones we let drive our overall emotions and how we feel about ourselves, others, and life.
We're not required to grant total power for perpetuity to things and people that hurt us. We can feel those feelings, own them - and then let them go, and let ourselves enjoy all the other, good feelings. That's something that we CAN control, and if we can't, we can get help with that.
There is no need for any of us to live our lives consumed by the worst feelings in the jar! You deserve better than that - we all do!
A lot of people get very interested in the science, and those are some of the people who are most likely to post here a lot, so I think it's easy to get a skewed view.
Most people who upgrade to e-cigarettes really do just screw one thing onto another, puff, and enjoy it.
Most of us never develop an interest in any of that tinkering, or getting the latest and greatest new piddleding, and we are certainly not interested in going out into the garage and inventing new devices, which, as you will have learned in your reading, is what the "exploding batteries" are about - not regular people using plain old e-cigarettes that are mass-produced in factories like underpants.
I suppose I should read over a dram and try to get to sleep soon.... -Magnus
Not obtuse and most definitely polite.
It's official. I'm not "most people". I'm not sure if I'm saddened, angered, or just meh by this revelation. At least I haven't sploded a battery... yet.
Batteries, lithium type, can explode. It's not specific to e-cigs, they do it in everything. Cell phones, laptops, wireless devices, bluetooth devices, mice, RC cars/helicopters/radios/planes, etc. More often than not, the situation occurs due to improper charging or improper discharging. Plainly put, over discharge (overuse) any electronic that uses a lithium battery, it can damage the cell (or cells). Putting a healthy battery on a charger, especially a cheap charger, that overheats that cell or overcharges, damage can happen. Putting a damaged cell on a charger (even a good charger), problems can happen. Since most people fail to read directions, you can't fault the product, only the person using the product without proper instruction. That goes for e-cigs, laptops, mice, cell phones, calculators, RC cars/helicopters/radios/planes, etc... you get the idea.
not skeerd...had to do it a couple times as a kid...didn't think anything of it...and I'm the only child so I don't have the sisters excuse...meh its just a female item...I'm not female so OBVIOUSLY...not for me...
Welcome to my life Magnus...or should I be welcomed to yours...damn this time paradox thing its so confusing...
What people see me post here is the result of a good deal of measured response...calculating and study of the "human condition" other wise I would be seen as a hothead and a cold fish at the same time...Hmm hows that work...
I don't even have much in the way of emotional response to external stimuli per se...oh I have emotions don't get me wrong but they are subdued muted....I have learned that most are not like me and have calculated my responses over time to match what is normal...I am a chameleon...I match my surroundings so I might be easier accepted but I am still me......all this extra mental gymnastics is a lot of work...but it works out better this way...less conflict and strife...
over time it has molded me into something different...something I cannot quite explain...so referencing my earlier post about being that which surronds me...in chaos I am......ad infinitum...
and good luck on the battery thing Nate...if you are modding it is likely to happen...I have gone to great pains to avoid it in my modding work but im sorry to say even I am likely to have a venting indecent sooner or later...and even my nimh puck mod has triple redundant safeties...but even they can FAIL...the best bet is to make sure you learn and incorporate features proven by other modders to be necessary for your protection...
whew...finally caught up with you guys...must have been a marathon session here...who won the race I wonder...
Hi Clay I see you're still up...an the winner is...Clay!!!!!!!!
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never had it come up...it has been proven to be hazardous to someones health to make unwanted physical contact with me...to coin a phrase from Rocky...I will break you...
so I have never had to worry about that...A coworker at the transmission shop I worked at found out the hard way once...nothing mean...I just reached behind me and grabbed him by a nostril and twisted...he squeaked and promised not to try that again...
Amazing what you learn from an old Polish/German grandma about obedience and behaving well and the proper ways to encourage it...
so I have never had to worry about that...A coworker at the transmission shop I worked at found out the hard way once...nothing mean...I just reached behind me and grabbed him by a nostril and twisted...he squeaked and promised not to try that again...
Amazing what you learn from an old Polish/German grandma about obedience and behaving well and the proper ways to encourage it...
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Beth, you ever think it is great not to have to putz with an e-cig?
You keep circling what you didn't get instead of what you got.
Hey ya know...however you are Free from the deathstix...Your free...Who cares how ya got there...I don't...its a distinction I don't care to waste time with...petty details...all the world wastes time with the petty details instead of the ones that matter...
in this case the detail that matters is freedom from the KILLER DEATHSTIX!!!
in this case the detail that matters is freedom from the KILLER DEATHSTIX!!!
In my family I have an uncle who quit smoking cold turkey. I have a cousin that quit using the patches. And I am using the e-cig. I hope at our next family gathering we don't all argue over our quit methods.
I'd say there's like zero chance of that. (I have a very loving and close knit family)
Most the time all this just strikes me as so absurd.
I'd say there's like zero chance of that. (I have a very loving and close knit family)
Most the time all this just strikes me as so absurd.
in my family i have an uncle who quit smoking cold turkey. I have a cousin that quit using the patches. And i am using the e-cig. I hope at our next family gathering we don't all argue over our quit methods.
I'd say there's like zero chance of that. (i have a very loving and close knit family)
most the time all this just strikes me as so absurd.
so true!!!
My father has some portions of both sides of this argument. He quit cold turkey. On very isolated circumstances, he makes the statement "Whatever gets you off smoking cigarettes". On the other hand he throws out "It's simply a matter of willpower, I quit cold turkey". He champions his manner of quitting and throws it in your face. The same is evident in this situation. If he stuck to the first statement (whatever gets you off smoking cigarettes), he probably wouldn't piss me off. The fact that he makes the subsequent statements marginalizes my efforts and is counter-productive to the therapeutic process.
Now, to understand these two statements you have to understand my father. My father is a flaming ....... Abusive (physically, emotionally, verbally), condescending, perpetually right and self-perceived omniscient righteous son of a ...... The fact that he's married to an addiction specialist and refuses to accept any input or data she presents on any addiction (alcohol, since he's also an alcoholic; food addiction; nicotine addiction; drug addiction; etc), highlights how little he actually knows.
In short, only a flaming, self-righteous ...... would take away something from someone else by making any therapy to addiction about "Me, me, me, my way". Addiction therapy is about listening, understanding, helping. Not about condemnation and confrontation.
Now, to understand these two statements you have to understand my father. My father is a flaming ....... Abusive (physically, emotionally, verbally), condescending, perpetually right and self-perceived omniscient righteous son of a ...... The fact that he's married to an addiction specialist and refuses to accept any input or data she presents on any addiction (alcohol, since he's also an alcoholic; food addiction; nicotine addiction; drug addiction; etc), highlights how little he actually knows.
In short, only a flaming, self-righteous ...... would take away something from someone else by making any therapy to addiction about "Me, me, me, my way". Addiction therapy is about listening, understanding, helping. Not about condemnation and confrontation.
ClayK, are you and I long lost siblings? Sounds like we have the same father.
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