E-Cigarette Forum Discussion Thread

[Katmandu]

Just sent you a copy

ETA: I quite agree I'm not sure why she picked me but I am totally honored

You are a great lady Shannon - why shouldn't she contact you?

-lol- is a smart old lady.

Thanks for sending her pm to me.

 

[phonedude]

You are a great lady Shannon - why shouldn't she contact you?

-lol- is a smart old lady.

Thanks for sending her pm to me.

Thanks for reminding me to read it. I was half awake this morning so I hadn't gotten around to reading it yet. Great read as usual. Gotta love that -lol-

She makes me want to

 

[DC2]

I am really struggling with what I am going to do now.

I am not sure I can, in good conscience, post within those guidelines.
I think it's possible, but what an incredibly fine line it would be to walk.

And I really don't want to have to be asking Fred all the time how he feels I should respond under various circumstances.
So I THINK I have decided to try my best, and let the chips fall where they may.

What are you guys gonna do?

 

[LibertariaNate]

It's funny because I remember your feelings in the beginning.

I guess they eventually got a little too far under your skin, huh?
Seems to me that some of those folks could easily get under the skin of a bowling ball.

Completely on a tangent here, but "under the skin of a bowling ball" reminded me of an experience...

In college I took a bowling class. I love to bowl and it satisfied the PE requirement...

In honor of my new "league" I purchased a new ball ("Track Animal" ~$200). During warm ups I was using it, trying to get a feel for its "action". During one of the tosses it took an inordinate amount of time for it to be returned. I didn't really think much of it at the time, I just pulled out one of my backups and continued to play. By the end of the first game it still hadn't been returned to me, which had me worried, so I spoke with the front desk. Midway through the second game, the ball was returned. Imagine my horror as I picked up my ball only to discover the entire surface had been scored with 1/4" deep gashes.

So apparently it is possible to "get under the skin of a bowling ball."

 

[phonedude]

Question. I just received my cartomizers from Pure Smoker. They included a bottle of hookah doodle juice that says 1.6%. Would that be 16mg liquid? I just love the consistency of vendors. I am learning I guess.

 

[MustangSallie]

I am really struggling with what I am going to do now.

I am not sure I can, in good conscience, post within those guidelines.
I think it's possible, but what an incredibly fine line it would be to walk.

And I really don't want to have to be asking Fred all the time how he feels I should respond under various circumstances.
So I THINK I have decided to try my best, and let the chips fall where they may.

What are you guys gonna do?

I think I'm with you DC2. It doesn't sit right with me to post within those guidelines either, at least not to someone with questions re: quitting nic. I might play it by ear for a while, see how it goes. Or, I may not. I kind of have a feeling that it's going to be pretty quiet in our corner of the forum anyway. We may find we don't have to worry about feeling conflicted. If nobody visits and asks questions there's nothing to feel conflicted about. As for venturing out into the main board for any discussions outside of e-cigs. The way they do things over there isn't for me, I could NEVER post OR tolerate the kind of support messages that are encouraged over there.

EDIT: And I hate to say it, but FOE'ing people probably won't work, because even some of the friendlier people over there are still drinking the "nicodemon" cool-aide.

 

[LibertariaNate]

Question. I just received my cartomizers from Pure Smoker. They included a bottle of hookah doodle juice that says 1.6%. Would that be 16mg liquid? I just love the consistency of vendors. I am learning I guess.

That would be correct.

 

[DC2]

I just received my cartomizers from Pure Smoker. They included a bottle of hookah doodle juice that says 1.6%. Would that be 16mg liquid?

Yes, it would.

I can never use any of the samples I get, because they are always in a different nicotine strength than what I use.
Sometimes it's lower, and sometimes it's higher... don't know what's up with that.

 

[DC2]

Well, I just made my first New Era post over there, I guess this is my attempt at walking the line...

I agree- the comparison of nicotine with illegal drugs is sort of imbalanced- people say it's harder to quit than ....... May be true, but that's mostly because ...... is harder to get, and also ****s up your life much more severely on a day to day basis.

I have never heard of driving under the influence of nicotine either.

Don't get me wrong- there's no nic in my blood, and I couldn't be happier. Or prouder.

But there should be no argument that it's NOT the worst addiction there is...

The idea that it is harder to quit than ...... came from studies regarding cigarettes, not nicotine.
It is starting to look quite possible that nicotine, by itself, is not nearly as addictive as it has always been made out to be...

Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties.[44] However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential. This is similar in effect to amphetamine.[24]

Electronic cigarettes, for the first time ever, allow for the seperation of the nicotine and ritual of smoking from the act of inhaling burning tobacco.

There are a number of studies that are showing that such products are far more successful than any other method in allowing users to quit smoking. Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that, once off cigarettes, it can then become easier to eventually wean your way off of nicotine.

 

[Katmandu]

Question. I just received my cartomizers from Pure Smoker. They included a bottle of hookah doodle juice that says 1.6%. Would that be 16mg liquid? I just love the consistency of vendors. I am learning I guess.

Yes, Gary that's 16mg.

Just wait till you order from a vendor that has low, medium or high. THAT drives me crazy!

 

[phonedude]

Yes, it would.

I can never use any of the samples I get, because they are always in a different nicotine strength than what I use.
Sometimes it's lower, and sometimes it's higher... don't know what's up with that.

Thanks to you and Nate. I bet I can use it for some nice flavoring. It's the Criollo Blend. I did take a taste of it.

Damn there goes my quit meter.

and Kat also

 

[MustangSallie]

Yes, it would.

I can never use any of the samples I get, because they are always in a different nicotine strength than what I use.
Sometimes it's lower, and sometimes it's higher... don't know what's up with that.

I ordered several 0mg and 6mg bottles on a few orders and received 24mg samples. I get that they don't want to mix up different nic strength sample bottles, probably not enough ROI. In that case maybe don't include it at all, or put a checkbox on the order form? I feel guilty throwing it out. I think PIF is great, but that requires effort on my part to pack it up and ship it out. Did I mention I'm basically lazy?

 

[Randyrtx]

Well, I just made my first New Era post over there, I guess this is my attempt at walking the line...

Electronic cigarettes, for the first time ever, allow for the seperation of the nicotine and ritual of smoking from the act of inhaling burning tobacco.

There are a number of studies that are showing that such products are far more successful than any other method in allowing users to quit smoking. Anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that, once off cigarettes, it can then become easier to eventually wean your way off of nicotine.

Excellent statement!

 

[phonedude]

Very well said DC

 

[Randyrtx]

OT: just got off the phone for a preliminary job interview. It went quite well and I will hopefully be moving to the next stage and a face-to-face interview with the VP of Engineering next week!

I'm extremely stoked because it's in an area that I have wanted to be involved in for a long time, and I seem to be a good fit for the position. (well that, and I really need a job! )

Wish me luck!

 

[DC2]

Here's my second post...

IF you don't vape, and don't smoke, congrats, just don't start anything again. This is where I am. And I'm thrilled. BUT...if I were going to relapse, you can bet the rent that it WILL BE AN ECIG I REACH FOR.

I understand what you're saying, but it's the above sentence that perplexes me. To me, this would NOT be a "relapse", but a concious decision to start up with a substance you KNOW you are addicted to and would cause harm to YOU.

No more than a conscious decision to pick up a cigarette.
And doing THAT is considered a relapse, right?

At least if you pick up an electronic cigarette to "relapse" then you have the option of using zero nicotine.
For some people, it isn't so much the nicotine that they miss or crave, but the comfort of the entire ritual of smoking.

If these posts are allowed to stand, I may just be able to make this work.

 

[DC2]

Wish me luck!

I would wish you luck, but this probably means we will lose you.

But you know, good luck anyway!

 

[phonedude]

Wish me luck!

You can count on that. Consider yourself added to the long list of family and friends I am wishing the same for.

Things have to get better some day.

(If it's any encouragement more of them are having luck lately with employment)

 

[Randyrtx]

I would wish you luck, but this probably means we will lose you.

But you know, good luck anyway!

You won't get rid of me that easy!

 

[MustangSallie]

Wish me luck!

Good luck Randy!