E-cigs banned at my work

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ckquatt

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Sorry to hear that! Like some stated above, my bosses don't care at the moment and often ask questions and think its cool. But we have this "guy" at work (our dispatch supervisor) you know... the one that got picked on in school. When he saw my boss's ecig he told my wife (dispatcher) "well... looks like there's something else I'm going to get banned here!"

She just laughed at him and said "good luck".

Turns out he says he's allergic to nicotine... I asked him the other day while I say him eating some sliced tomatoes on his burger, and French fries if he needed my to call an ambulance. He was all like "..what!! No, I'm fine!" :D

My wife just turned around and busted out laughing, cause we had the conversation the night before about foods that contain nicotine.

Hes just one of those guys that thinks he runs the place. I've converted 3 dispatchers to vapers, and my chief thinks its GREAT! That guy, on the other hand, HATES me!


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I work in a hospital, and they equate ecigs to a "tobacco" product. That's the actual wording in the policy, "No tobacco products including e-cigarettes". Basically no cigs or ecigs on property inside or out...but they'll slap a patch on a scumbag OD who's whining that he can't have a cigarette cuz he just died and they brought him back. The government's problem with ecigs is it cuts into their money, the ignorant public's problem with ecigs is it looks like smoking...neither have the actual beneficial intentions of the product in mind. I don't know anybody who's quit using the patch or gum, but I've witnessed myself not crave for a cigarette after 15 years of smoking due to ecigs
 

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I wonder if there is a "Natural" doctor out there that would give it his approval as a Nicotine delivery method..like patches or gum?

My doctor recommends ecigarettes to patients. He pulled a sample pack of njoy's out of his pocket and showed it to me after i told him I switched to ecigarettes.
 

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Well that policy goes into effect this Great American Smoke Out Day this November, including Ecigs. My contention is hospitals have had similar policies for a few years, but if you walk to the other side of the street you are able to smoke, vape. We are not allowed to leave company property during the shift....no way to vape leagally. Now there is the stealth mode.:p

The hospitals in my area allow vaping right in the rooms.
 

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It is what it is I guess, but it pisses me off. Anyone else have their vaping rights taken away?
It'll be everywhere soon enough. Being kind of new to vaping I'm quite surprised Federal bans across the land didn't kick in the day I started. :D Most proprietor's are cowards and would just as soon ban vaping on the premisses rather than deal with the conflicts and senseless complaints by the self appointed fog police whose motto is, "If it looks like smoke it's real bad. So I'm tellin'!".

And Scythe my friend, sadly vaping is not a "right" when you're in somebody else's house. If folks would keep this in mind and be a little more discreet about it we could probably stave this thing off for a little while. But it's coming. Just a matter of time. (Not pointing at you BTW).
 

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I worked at a hospital where smoking indoors was banned and people had to go outside to smoke. Fair enough, I guess. Then, smoking was banned within 50 feet of entrances and was to be enforced by security. Security responded that they had better things to do than be the smoking police (this was at a hospital with maximum/medium/minimum security patients, so there was plenty of security and plenty of things for them to do besides stand around the doors with a tape measure). I retired from there at that point. Since then, you cannot smoke or even have tobacco products on the property. People have to go across the street to smoke (or dip, I suppose). I can't believe the amount of lost man hours their stupid PC rules are costing that place.

I sympathize with the OP, but sadly in today's workplace that is becoming the norm.



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Before I get so P.O.ed that blood shoots out my nose and pass out I have to say screw them, screw the ignorance, screw the tobacco companies, screw the news. If it's legal to drink poison (alcohol), and it's fine to smoke pot (in some states) then dammit I shouldn't have to answer to someone for breathing in the same stuff that comes out of a fog machine!
 

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There is no "right" to vape in your workplace. I understand where you are coming from though. Yes it sucks to be sure...but vaping can be disruptive at work. Clouds hang, smells linger, etc. That being said...I'd just be a bit more stealthy about it. :)

I agree with you man... I mean I was never one of those people who "blatantly" vaped in the office, just because I could. Again though, when she saw it the first time, I literally just took a drag and never blew anything out. I held it until I was ready to answer her questions and by that time, it had already dissipated. Look, it's their company and they can make any rule they want, but I just find it odd that a company would ban something without knowing anything about it.

Sure, it looks like smoke, it's disruptive to oh, 20% of people that might have seen me blowing, "smoke" and didn't know what vaporizers were. I understand that they don't get it, but maybe we could have an educational email sent out or something, instead of straight up "banning" because someone might be offended by something?

It just seems like political correctness to me. I'm not hurting anyone, and I'm enjoying myself and I stay at my desk more often because I don't have to go down two floors and walk outside just to "smoke".

As far as I can see, the pros outweigh the cons in this situation, and it's frustrating.
 

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I work in a hospital, and they equate ecigs to a "tobacco" product. That's the actual wording in the policy, "No tobacco products including e-cigarettes". Basically no cigs or ecigs on property inside or out...but they'll slap a patch on a scumbag OD who's whining that he can't have a cigarette cuz he just died and they brought him back. The government's problem with ecigs is it cuts into their money, the ignorant public's problem with ecigs is it looks like smoking...neither have the actual beneficial intentions of the product in mind. I don't know anybody who's quit using the patch or gum, but I've witnessed myself not crave for a cigarette after 15 years of smoking due to ecigs

That's just another crazy story. Hospital's I would assume would be smarter. I've read quite a few studies on the internet so far, and not one have found the e-cigs are anywhere near as dangerous as analogs. The last one that someone on gizmodo.com pointed out to me (and he was arguing that they weren't safe) stated that e-cigs produce none of the bad chemicals and 1/10th of the nicotine that an analog produces when exhaled.

SERIOUSLY, what is the difference between the patch / gum / vaporizer besides the delivery method and the, shall we call it, "effect". Sure, patches you can't even notice a difference. The gum, you see someone chewing on, possibly smell it. The vaporizer, you see "smoke" but no where near it. They all do the same thing and should all be classified as the same in my opinion. If you can give one of the other two products to someone in clear conscience, then vaporizers should be in that same classification as well.
 

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Are you allowed to consume liquid through a straw on company property? If so ask when they are going to ban that as well. Stealth vaping is no different...

Exactly what I'm doing tomorrow and the rest of my days there. What they can't see, they can't regulate. I'll probably build a small mod and vape away happily and blow down below my desk. F 'em.
 

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Should have just told her it was a medical device for a breathing issue. :D

I probably would have, but the other 99.9 percent of people that asked me in the office said, "oh cool, really?" and never had a problem. Even the CEO's didn't care. Didn't think that some HR lady would have it banned within 3 hours, otherwise you betchurass I would have!
 

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I have to take a 5 minute walk to the edge of the property where they have this tiny 8'x15' cage I have to stand in with the smokers blowing smoke all over me. I have been sitting in my truck even though there is no 'smoking' allowed in the garage either. It blows.

Just... ......ed. You went and made the change to be (and I know this is still arguable) ...healthier. Now you're forced to go and inhale second-hand smoke which has been clinically proven to be harmful, yet you're blowing out nothing of any cause for concern and 1/10th of the nicotine (which still hasn't been proven to do anything in the concentrations that we're using) of a cig.

W.T.F.
 

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That's ridiculous! Not even on the property?

I believe that I'll be vaping everywhere I can where no one can see me. The best part about e-cigs is that you can't tell 10 seconds after you use them, even in a closed room so good luck catching me next time, HR!

time to start a job search.
 

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It was banned where I worked a few years ago when I introduced my coworkers to vaping. The supervisor, who smokes, ragged everyone about how ridiculous they look, how bad ecigs are and how nicotine is being exhaled in the vapor. Of course she banned them and we were all banished to go outside to the smoking area. No matter how much literature she was shown she wouldn't change her mind. We figured out she is just a ....* and didn't want us doing something she was unwilling to try and her access to gossip had decreased too much since many of the vapers were no longer going outside with her to smoke.

I don't work there anymore...
 

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I believe there are stealth juices around that produce little to no vapor if you hold it in for a second. Can't see them being much different to All PG and no VG though!

Thanks, I make my own and save a crap ton of money that way. If I wanted to, I could probably come up with a certain mix that didn't produce too much vapor, but I'll be happy to just hold it longer before exhaling just like I've done on a plane. Just need to get a mod that's small enough to fit in my hand so no one sees. Right now, I have a Legacy and a Vamo V3 that I switch between and they're both too large to conceal with one had.

I'll be fine, it sucks that they did this, but honestly I think I'll be able to get away with it unless that "one person" doesn't see it. Stealth Vape ...
 
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