E-Cigs to be banned in Uruguay.

[rothenbj]

Exactly!! The phrase she uses "the amounts of nic are low, but it's still there" was taken directly from the FDA's comment on their finding of small amounts of nicotine in carts labeled 0nic. She uses this phrase against ecigs in general, they're supposed to have nicotine! They don't even have a valid argument, that's a bull**** phrase!!

She then mentions DEG, but DEG is not a component on ALL ecigs, this is not a reason to ban them, it's a reason to regulate the safety of the products being sold. You don't ban all toys because lead was found in some..............

But that is precisely what our government did early this year!

Http://angiemedia.com/?p=535

Not only did they ban the sale of untested toys, books before 1985, and clothing, if you are found to sell any product that does't meet the lead std., you are suseptable to a $10,000 fine per incident. I volunteer at a non-profit thrift store. They no longer sell toys and a lot of perfectly good clothing and books get desroyed due to the new law. Less toys for those poor kids this xmas.

 

[OutWest]

But that is precisely what our government did early this year!

Http://angiemedia.com/?p=535

Not only did they ban the sale of untested toys, books before 1985, and clothing, if you are found to sell any product that does't meet the lead std., you are suseptable to a $10,000 fine per incident. I volunteer at a non-profit thrift store. They no longer sell toys and a lot of perfectly good clothing and books get desroyed due to the new law. Less toys for those poor kids this xmas.

Another part of that stupid lead-testing law is that it is letting the CPSC make the rules, and one of the rules theyve made, but that hasnt hit the news, is that the testing for the new, lower lead limits applies to not only items for children, but several household items a child MIGHT use, primarily furniture. It's buried on their site, but it's there.

from FAQs For Section 101: Children’s Products Containing Lead; lead paint rule - Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA)

What furniture articles are exempt under CPSC regulations? Do the lead paint limits apply to furniture whether or not the furniture is intended for children?

16 C.F.R. § 1303.1 provides that the lead paint limits apply to toys and other articles intended for use by children, as well as furniture articles for consumer use that bear lead-containing paint. Furniture articles include, but are not limited to beds, bookcases, chairs, chests, tables, dressers, desks, pianos, console televisions, and sofas. However, they do not include appliances such as ranges, refrigerators, dishwashers, clothes washers and dryers, air conditioners, humidifiers and dehumidifiers; fixtures such as bathroom fixtures, built-in cabinets, chandeliers, windows, and doors; or household items such as window shades, venetian blinds, or wall hangings and draperies.​

At one point it was worded in such as way as to include nearly all household items (I.e.: paintings and their frames, draperies, doors, carpet, photo frames, etc), with only exception being kitchen appliances.

And, not to further derail the thread, but at one point they were even including children's fine jewelry in this mess. You cant use solder that contains lead to solder silver (not sure about gold, but would presume it's the same). Reason is, if you use solder that has lead, it pits the silver. Solder made for fine metals doesnt contain lead. They later changed it to 'as long as it contains no solder, it doesnt have to be tested'. The handbook they have for resellers on the CPSC.gov website says that fine jewelry is okay if made entirely of gold (10K or higher) or sterling silver (925 or higher), but doesnt clarify as to whether or not being soldered is okay (since, technically, the solder means the item is not 100% sterling silver). We used to sell Native American crafted sterling silver baby rattles, sterling silver baby spoons, and sterling silver baby rings, but discontinued selling them because of all of this stupidity.


Back to original topic - sorry to hear about Uruguay. Best of luck with the fight.
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[Vaporista]

I hope he proceeds with his lawsuit, unfortunately these are very expensive and therefore my hopes are not high...

 

[Deschain]

Isn't there a quote about that? Something along the lines of "The worst sort of despotism is when they're looking out for your best interests"?

Xybe, I'm sure Uruguay is a beautiful place, but maybe it might be time to move.

Or "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions"

Either way, there are far too many governments trying to turn their countries into nanny states for my liking...ban this, restrict that, spread fear about such-and-such.


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[Vaporista]

Or "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions"

Either way, there are far too many governments trying to turn their countries into nanny states for my liking...ban this, restrict that, spread fear about such-and-such.


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Coming from the biggest nanny state of them all... the UK

 

[Deschain]

Oh yes, that's why it p****s me off...we used to have a global empire and were generally a kick-... kind of country...look at the state of us now.


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[xybe]

Today I met user spradling in person and my hope has been rekindled, he is very enthusiastic about the lawsuit and I am sure that he will pour his heart into it.

 

[jj2]

Or "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions"

Either way, there are far too many governments trying to turn their countries into nanny states for my liking...ban this, restrict that, spread fear about such-and-such.


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Totally agree

 

[rothenbj]

Another part of that stupid lead-testing law is that it is letting the CPSC make the rules, and one of the rules theyve made, but that hasnt hit the news, is that the testing for the new, lower lead limits applies to not only items for children, but several household items a child MIGHT use, primarily furniture. It's buried on their site, but it's there.

from FAQs For Section 101: Children’s Products Containing Lead; lead paint rule - Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA)

At one point it was worded in such as way as to include nearly all household items (I.e.: paintings and their frames, draperies, doors, carpet, photo frames, etc), with only exception being kitchen appliances.

And, not to further derail the thread, but at one point they were even including children's fine jewelry in this mess. You cant use solder that contains lead to solder silver (not sure about gold, but would presume it's the same). Reason is, if you use solder that has lead, it pits the silver. Solder made for fine metals doesnt contain lead. They later changed it to 'as long as it contains no solder, it doesnt have to be tested'. The handbook they have for resellers on the CPSC.gov website says that fine jewelry is okay if made entirely of gold (10K or higher) or sterling silver (925 or higher), but doesnt clarify as to whether or not being soldered is okay (since, technically, the solder means the item is not 100% sterling silver). We used to sell Native American crafted sterling silver baby rattles, sterling silver baby spoons, and sterling silver baby rings, but discontinued selling them because of all of this stupidity.


Back to original topic - sorry to hear about Uruguay. Best of luck with the fight.
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Surprised the missed bullets. They can be pretty deadly.