E-liquid review for receptive taste buds

[SmokingBullet]

I can't be the only one out there with a receptive palate? Are you one of those who can taste the difference between Coke and Pepsi? Is your palate sophisticated enough to decipher the difference Bud and Bud light? Can you taste the difference between regular table salt and sea salt?

I can't believe there aren’t any of you out there, why are you keeping quiet about it? Why aren’t you saying anything about it!

Time to speak up folks! Frankly I’m PO’d about the money I’ve spent on e-juice which has great reviews, only to get it and find it tastes like a handkerchief soaked in old perfume or a lab test gone wrong.

I’ve given these juices the opportunity to prove themselves; I’ve dripped, dropped, aged, used them in carts and tried them in carto’s only to be disappointed finding the flavor still tastes chemical to me.

All I expect is if you say the flavor is such and such, then it should be the flavor you’ve described. I don’t want to order a caramel cream flavor and get sweet warm milk with a chemical aftertaste.

I’ve watched hundreds of flavor review video’s which brag about the flavor being right on. I’m suckered into buying the flavor thinking I’m going to get what they say…the same chemical crap flavor comes through over and over again.

Just spent over 50 bucks on sample flavors from one supplier; each one has the same flavor…can’t taste any difference in the flavors; top note is the same chemical/perfume flavor for each one.

Out of the numerous suppliers I’ve tried I can honestly say only 2 come close to the flavors they proclaim. Both suppliers use organic/natural flavors. Even though they use organic and natural flavors some, but not many of their juices, still have the hint of perfume, chemical flavor; not as much as others, but that pronounced flavor is still there.

Please educate me; what is it that most suppliers are using that has that awful chemical, perfume flavor? Is it because they are buying their flavors from the same supplier? Are they all starting off using the same mixture or percentage of mixture? I know I’m not the only one out there tasting it; time to speak up people!

Please don’t respond saying I should mix my own flavors…I don’t want to, I have better things to do. I simply want to order a flavor and get what I’m asking for. Am I wrong here? I can’t be the only one out there who’s feeling the same way? Am I? ​

 

[nicnac]

Maybe you should mix your own flavors.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
You are correct in many ways. I have an army of juice bottles sitting on my desk collecting dust.
Please let us know about the two suppliers and the juices that you liked.
Right now I'm desperately looking for some decent juice and buying juice on reviews has not been a success.

 

[MsOceanCity]

A long time ago, I vaguely remember reading something about tastebud receptors in a health magazine. Don't remember exactly but the general idea was that people's tastebuds can change with age. Broccoli was given as an example, as most children can't stand it, while many adults love it. This can work the other way around too and I'm wondering if that's the reason some people love a particular juice and others can't stand it. Had a very disappointing experience tonight with a new juice from one of my favorite vendors (will omit Vendors name out of respect). The flavor is Chocolate Malt and is a new creation for this vendor. I love chocolate and malt and was dying to try it, when it came, but made myself wait 10 days, so it could steep. Well, I was sickened(literally)by the flavor. Tasted like strong perfume with Rose Hips. Not even a hint of chocolate or malt This is very atypical for this vendor, as all the juices I've tried, thus far, have been great and true to their name. If this was happening to everyone who has tried it, I think I would've come across a post somewhere(the few I've seen have been positive), so it must be that I lack the receptors necessary to enjoy this juice. What a shame!

 

[lasttango]

Without bashing anyone, what hasn't worked for you? That would be helpful etc...

Off the bat, my favorites jump out... Alien Visions, Backwoods brew and vaperite's organic Line... some of nHaler's juices... (Octane line), Halo, Vaporflow...

I don't often vape things that are supposed to taste like gourmet desserts... but I have heard very positive things about Vaporbomb, tasty vapor and Mrs. T's...

 

[Vapenstein]

My reviews probably are more concerned with the flavor profile of juice than most, but even so, what I taste and what you taste is going to be different. Taste is an incredibly analog and subjective sense, and we all have drastic differences in our perception of it. The best you can do is read/watch many reviews, and hope that you will agree with the status quo. My reviews are always right though

 

[Jimi Mack]

Another fact that would be important is how long ago if you have, have you quit using analogs. Over time your taste buds will change after you stop using analogs.

Second and this is a helpful hint... if you let your juice sit 2 to 4 weeks depending on who made it, you may find that after they steeped, they actually will taste better and more like the flavor is is suppose to. A lot of home brewed juices do need time to steep to get rid of the chemical taste. Something I had learned after spending a lot on juices I did not like as well.

Another thing to remember is... there are cheap made juices out there that will never improve. All of this is trial and error till you find something you are happy with. Good Luck.

 

[Bobbye]

Yes, I can tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, etc. But I agree with all of the above. When I first started my search I was reading reviews and purchasing way too much from those that got great reviews. I'd get it, try, let it sit, try again and still be totally disappointed.

I learned that our taste buds change so much after we quit analogs. I've have gone back and tried the bottles I hated in July and August and now I have found some that are my favorites. Sometimes it also helps to take the cap off and let a bottle sit overnight or 24 hours open. And I do have some Chinese crap that I finally just threw away -- it never got rid of the horrid perfume/chemical taste and smell.

I also found that after a few months I paid more attention to the "join date" for those writing reviews. I generally take those that have been doing this a lot longer than me more serious vs. those that just began this journey. For some it seems like their first flavors are "wonderful" to them no matter what they really taste like.

Also, you might to try those juices that are just VG because some find they don't like the taste of PG or are allegric to it.
Here's a list I found where you can buy them.
Avejuice
Cignot
Ecopure
Juicyliquid
Vaperite
Velvet Vapors
Clouds of vapor

 

[FreeFlow]

Could it be that you can't get one of the craptastic flavors out of your atty? Not trying to "blame" you.. Just by your post count and join date it makes me think your a newer vapor. And if that's the case perhaps you haven't considered your hardware.

But yea taste is subjective.. blah blah blah.

 

[SmokingBullet]

I don't believe a post count has anything to do with with my opinion. I can read that's what counts, I don't have to voice my opinion by posting on everything I read. You're judging and making your postulation too quickly.
There's a great proverb; "A long gray beard doesn't mean you're smart".

 

[FreeFlow]

I don't believe a post count has anything to do with with my opinion. I can read that's what counts, I don't have to voice my opinion by posting on everything I read. You're judging and making your postulation too quickly.
There's a great proverb; "A long gray beard doesn't mean you're smart".

wow ok..

moving on.. good luck.

 

[lasttango]

I don't believe a post count has anything to do with with my opinion.

You're right to an extent... but... I do think experience might... and of course... my opinion and in my experience etc...

In other words, as you try more and more vendors, your own perspective grows, changes etc... it's the snooty little secret all of us long gray bearded 9 month veterans know ;-)

If you've only been vaping as long as your post count, I'd say you are way ahead of the curve and will surely be a jedi in no time.

I am more skeptical of positive reviews from newbies because many newbies, including myself tend to over-rate or oversell a vendor... because they go from something relatively ordinary to something creative and are more easily blown away...
AS they try more "artisan" vendors... their perspective adjusts etc...


In any case, I guess I'd try to identify some vendors that have their own unique topnotes etc...

BWB, AV, Vaperite, Vapor Station, Halo/Vapor Flow, TW, MS. T's, VB, Johnson Creek, FSUSA for flavourart... these vendors all seem to have different underlying tastes...
Not a huge fan of Johnson Creek because I like mellow flavor... but they could be what you are looking for.
I found their flavors to be very intense and didn't really get a chemical taste from them... they are quality juices - but definitely an acquired taste in the eyes of many.

 

[FreeFlow]

I could care less about your join date/post count.. I was trying to figure out if you know enough to consider it might be your hardware.

For all I know you have one atomizer and can't get the taste of one particular juice out of it..

k.. moving on.. again

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Please educate me; what is it that most suppliers are using that has that awful chemical, perfume flavor? Is it because they are buying their flavors from the same supplier? Are they all starting off using the same mixture or percentage of mixture? I know I’m not the only one out there tasting it; time to speak up people!

Nicotine, Propylene Glycol, Glycerol, optionally water and ethanol are the common factors. The flavourings are highly variable. To me, nicotine bases can vary in flavour, depending on how pure they are. I'd maybe look at that. Also try a 100% VG liquid as mentioned already mentioned, in case its the PG taste you are detecting.

I'm not an expert, but what I have read from people who are knowledgeable, is that the nicotine bases can be pure (e.g. pharmacopoeia grade nicotine, of the same purity used in NRT products) or they can be less pure, like what is likely to be in the Chinese nicotine bases. It's all extracted from tobacco AFAIK, it's just a question of how its been extracted, and the level of refinement.

I perhaps don't have the most sensitive palate, but I can detect a difference between unflavoured "Chinese" nicotine base and the example of pharmacopoeia grade nicotine base I've used (TW/Decadent Vapours Platinum Ice). There is a flavour present in the Chinese types, a fairly subtle peppery flavour mostly. Some unflavoured base I had from HealthCabin had a more noticeable flavour and smell, it still vapes OK to me, but I could well imagine those with a sensitive palate could object. The Platinum Ice had less of a taste to it (if any).

 

[Tiari]

Here's a couple things...... I think the OP thought that the number of post thing meant he didn't know jack about what he was talking about with flavors. Some newbies (like me) don't give rave reviews and can tell what sucks LOL. .. and there's a lot out there that suck. Often too, its the "newbies" (again like me lol) that are cheap about it and try the real discount places for juice. Some are good, some are bad, however, new or not, if it tastes like Channel #5, it tastes like Channel #5.

It could be your atty my friend, but, the reality is I know what your talking about. I hate to be the bearer of opposing opinion here, but I think there are other additives than the PG, VG, Nicotine and flavor going on here. I know exactly what the OP is talking about......... We're not talking a slight chemical taste, this is like licking a perfume insert from a magazine. Its god awful!

I too would love to know what precisely is the "perfume" element... and actually have come up with my own theory on the matter. I seriously believe that when some companies mix the juices, they have been in contact with or are wearing an overabundance of cologne. The taste/smell of some juice really is unmistakable as perfume. Anyone who has been in an elevator or used the chair of someone who is a gallon a day cologne user, you know what I"m talking about.

 

[MsOceanCity]

Some are good, some are bad, however, new or not, if it tastes like Channel #5, it tastes like Channel #5. I know exactly what the OP is talking about......... We're not talking a slight chemical taste, this is like licking a perfume insert from a magazine. Its god awful!
.

I have experienced this several times, with different juices and from different vendors. Some were probably Dekang, while others were USA and mixed fresh to order. I thought, "how can anybody in their right mind like this stuff?!" I think there might be something physiological going on here, as I'm not talking about a flavor that is "good" but just "not your cup of tea". Rather, it seems some people are able to taste something that others simply can't. How else could something that tastes like strong perfume to one person, taste like ambrosia to another? Wish I had some medical knowledge or facts to back this up but I don't In any case, I don't think there is any way for a person to figure this out based on what other people say about a particular juice flavor. To the OP, just keep buyin' and tryin'

 

[poundpuppiesrock]

I can't be the only one out there with a receptive palate? Are you one of those who can taste the difference between Coke and Pepsi? Is your palate sophisticated enough to decipher the difference Bud and Bud light? Can you taste the difference between regular table salt and sea salt?

Yes...I too am one of those people who has the sophisticated palate as well. There are very few flavors that I can say I really like, although I am still fairly new to all of this. I can say that the one I don't get tired of is unflavored...LOL. My hubby just ordered me a sampler with VG Candy Cane, which was really clean and crisp. Really liked it. I don't know if I am allowed to mention a supplier/company, so if you would like the name, send me a PM.​

 

[Godzilla]

I certainly smell what you are stepping in. It is amazing to me how many people can rave about a particular juice, only to receive it, and have it taste like a glade plug-in. And I am thinking that these people must have singed off their tastebuds, or have their tongues pierced too many times. And these vendors get quite defensive in their emails, or just ignore some, and I never once asked for a discount. I have purchased easily 80 different flavors, and tried over 20 different flavors through PIF, and I still only have a dozen or so that I enjoy. Others dont seem to have much flavor, and one particular vendor always tastes like a bar of soap. And all their flavors have the same soapy or flowery flavor. And I dont think they use cheap nicotine either.

Here is a vendor I am quite impressed with: Kick Bass Vapors. They are very well known in the PIF community and many of their flavors are tried and true. They are good people and use the highest quality ingredients. And I dont taste perfume at all. Especially try their Caramel Cappuccino and Tootsie Roll. Their flavor is spot on, and the prices are great. Check the forum for their thread on ordering instructions.

To this day I find it hard to beleive that people love a certain juice that rhymes with rott crotch. Kinda tastes that to me too. And folks, I only blame MY tastebuds. They must be whacked. We should go bowling sometime...

 

[guitardedmark]

I can't be the only one out there with a receptive palate? Are you one of those who can taste the difference between Coke and Pepsi? Is your palate sophisticated enough to decipher the difference Bud and Bud light? Can you taste the difference between regular table salt and sea salt?

I can't believe there aren’t any of you out there, why are you keeping quiet about it? Why aren’t you saying anything about it!

Time to speak up folks! Frankly I’m PO’d about the money I’ve spent on e-juice which has great reviews, only to get it and find it tastes like a handkerchief soaked in old perfume or a lab test gone wrong.

I’ve given these juices the opportunity to prove themselves; I’ve dripped, dropped, aged, used them in carts and tried them in carto’s only to be disappointed finding the flavor still tastes chemical to me.

All I expect is if you say the flavor is such and such, then it should be the flavor you’ve described. I don’t want to order a caramel cream flavor and get sweet warm milk with a chemical aftertaste.

I’ve watched hundreds of flavor review video’s which brag about the flavor being right on. I’m suckered into buying the flavor thinking I’m going to get what they say…the same chemical crap flavor comes through over and over again.

Just spent over 50 bucks on sample flavors from one supplier; each one has the same flavor…can’t taste any difference in the flavors; top note is the same chemical/perfume flavor for each one.

Out of the numerous suppliers I’ve tried I can honestly say only 2 come close to the flavors they proclaim. Both suppliers use organic/natural flavors. Even though they use organic and natural flavors some, but not many of their juices, still have the hint of perfume, chemical flavor; not as much as others, but that pronounced flavor is still there.

Please educate me; what is it that most suppliers are using that has that awful chemical, perfume flavor? Is it because they are buying their flavors from the same supplier? Are they all starting off using the same mixture or percentage of mixture? I know I’m not the only one out there tasting it; time to speak up people!

Please don’t respond saying I should mix my own flavors…I don’t want to, I have better things to do. I simply want to order a flavor and get what I’m asking for. Am I wrong here? I can’t be the only one out there who’s feeling the same way? Am I? ​

AMEN!!! I have felt the exact same way. I swear to god that some people are taste deaf just llike people are tone deaf. I have been ostacized for giving my input on juices that i didn't think were accurate at all. THANK GOD I'm not the only one!!!

 

[guitardedmark]

Another fact that would be important is how long ago if you have, have you quit using analogs. Over time your taste buds will change after you stop using analogs.

Second and this is a helpful hint... if you let your juice sit 2 to 4 weeks depending on who made it, you may find that after they steeped, they actually will taste better and more like the flavor is is suppose to. A lot of home brewed juices do need time to steep to get rid of the chemical taste. Something I had learned after spending a lot on juices I did not like as well.

Another thing to remember is... there are cheap made juices out there that will never improve. All of this is trial and error till you find something you are happy with. Good Luck.

Good point. Another thing that just kills me when i watch reviews is that a reviewer will vape multiple different juices after each other and do a review on each one. If your doing that, your palette is going to get confused. I actually saw a review once on atomic cynacide and the guy did a review of suome buttery right after vaping the cynacide. LOL he actually said that the buttery flavor tasted kind of "hot". I could not believe it!

I use crackers (like wine tasters do) to clear my palette.

 

[guitardedmark]

I don't believe a post count has anything to do with with my opinion. I can read that's what counts, I don't have to voice my opinion by posting on everything I read. You're judging and making your postulation too quickly.
There's a great proverb; "A long gray beard doesn't mean you're smart".

word brotha! Lot of assumptions going on here...