Well said Tango. I always appreciate your feedback! Except for the johnson creek part
E-liquid review for receptive taste buds
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Well said Tango. I always appreciate your feedback! Except for the johnson creek part
Great point! I agree completely. This is pretty much the only reason why I keep going back to certain vendors. FSUSA for instance has very high grade 99.99% nicotine and it leaves a very minimal taste signature while at the same time being very potent. I doubt its the flavorings that is causing this whacky bad tastes. I believe its poor PG, VG or maybe nic. My girlfriend vapes 0 nic though and sometimes we will get the same flavor with 0 nic and mine at 18 nic. A lot of times they still have that soapy, perfumy, feet, chemical taste to them.
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Hey Bullet,
I'm right with you on this and I don't think many people feel the same way. It's like trying to explain a complicate musical tone to someone who is tone deaf. That cant, wont, and never will get it. I've run into this a lot in the music recording industry. Some people REALLY cannot hear what is in tune and what is not, and that's not a preference thing, its a fact. There is a mathematical formula for sonic pitch and some people are simple incapable of indentifying it, no matter how hard they try. I think the same thing happens with taste. I've probably tried well over 100 juices. Probably around 200 and i've thought MAYBE 20 were good and I will only recommend about 10. I would be more than willing to send you some free juice if you interested. I prefer deserty and fruity flavors but PM your address and I will send you some stuff. I will have to wait until I get some empty bottles though
I'm right with you on this and I don't think many people feel the same way. It's like trying to explain a complicate musical tone to someone who is tone deaf. That cant, wont, and never will get it. I've run into this a lot in the music recording industry. Some people REALLY cannot hear what is in tune and what is not, and that's not a preference thing, its a fact. There is a mathematical formula for sonic pitch and some people are simple incapable of indentifying it, no matter how hard they try. I think the same thing happens with taste. I've probably tried well over 100 juices. Probably around 200 and i've thought MAYBE 20 were good and I will only recommend about 10. I would be more than willing to send you some free juice if you interested. I prefer deserty and fruity flavors but PM your address and I will send you some stuff. I will have to wait until I get some empty bottles though
Dear Smokingbullet:
It has already been noted, but I'll point it out again - taste is very, very, very subjective. It is quite possible that you are what is sometimes referred to as a "supertaster." Yes, that's for real, and not a joke. Supertasters are often used in industry to detect small distinctions in flavors, such as coffees, teas, wines, and so on. Their ability to distinguish very small variations in flavors is well researched. Perhaps part of your issues with some flavors of eliquid is related to that kind of ability.
Also, keep in mind that in addition to the flavorings themselves, and the pg and vg, many eliquids use one or another type of sweetener. Sweeteners, especially artificial sweeteners, can taste very differently to various people. I know some who find particular artificial sweeteners to taste just like sugar. While I have yet to find any artificial sweetener that does not have a bitter, sour or cloying aftertaste.
Reviews of eliquids just have to be taken "with a grain of salt." There is no way that any two people will react to/appreciate the same eliquids. I have found that unless impossible, the only way to keep down the expense of trying something new is to buy the smallest available quantity, and then try it in a clean or even new atomizer/cartomizer.
It has already been noted, but I'll point it out again - taste is very, very, very subjective. It is quite possible that you are what is sometimes referred to as a "supertaster." Yes, that's for real, and not a joke. Supertasters are often used in industry to detect small distinctions in flavors, such as coffees, teas, wines, and so on. Their ability to distinguish very small variations in flavors is well researched. Perhaps part of your issues with some flavors of eliquid is related to that kind of ability.
Also, keep in mind that in addition to the flavorings themselves, and the pg and vg, many eliquids use one or another type of sweetener. Sweeteners, especially artificial sweeteners, can taste very differently to various people. I know some who find particular artificial sweeteners to taste just like sugar. While I have yet to find any artificial sweetener that does not have a bitter, sour or cloying aftertaste.
Reviews of eliquids just have to be taken "with a grain of salt." There is no way that any two people will react to/appreciate the same eliquids. I have found that unless impossible, the only way to keep down the expense of trying something new is to buy the smallest available quantity, and then try it in a clean or even new atomizer/cartomizer.
I agree with you. I've bought alot of flavors based on the reviews I've read here on ECF, and close to 85% of them are pure crap. Not just pre-mixed stuff, but DIY flavors too.
I've written reviews, and voiced my displeasure but I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same old replies.....let it steep....clean your atty....taste is subjective....wait a month or more.......that's the fun of it.... etc....etc....etc........... It's just the same old lines regurgitated over and over again.
Personally, I think there are too many hacks making juices. Seems like all a vendor has to do for a positive review is set the price point low enough, flood a buyers inbox with a ton of order updates, ship reasonably fast, and write a personal note on the invoice. I'd sacrifice some of that fluff for some flavors that taste like a universally accepted standard of what the name implies. An espresso generally tastes like an espresso regardless where you get it, if it tastes like a dishrag you pitch a fit and don't buy from that place again. What you don't do is make excuses and buy something else from them. Eventually, they will get the idea and stop making dish rag espresso.
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Well than I must be a "supertaster" too because I agree with the OP 100% and it's funny because everytime I've posted something like he did, I've gotten flamed, just like he is...
WORD!!! God it feels good to hear someone else say it! I get so annoyed when I see people giving vendors great reviews on crap juice because the vendor sent them a nice PM and they got the juice for free. I think most juice reviewers are doing the vaping community a huge disservice by promoting inferior vendors because they are nice or outgoing. Simple put, we are all the same. We all want the best vaping products available.
I think the vaping community as a whole is so in love with vaping (I AM TOO!) that people are afraid to speak the truth about a vendors poor business because they don't want to cause trouble and be "that guy". EVERY time i say something negative about a vendor, I get ripped to shreds. It's almost like people think the vendors are constantly reading posts and will send them free juice or something... If there is no standard of quality control for e-cig vendors, how do we ensure they are doing the best they can? I know that doing a bunch of bogus reviews and defending vendors like they're your first born child is not the right thing to do because it promotes noobs to purchase from vendors who are not up to the standards of the few real quality vendors we do have.
This idea reminds me of the whole "why do smokers hate us vapors so much?" debate. Besides the "you haven't quit smoke but you say you have" crap, there is the unconscious threat to their precious smoking addiction and there is fear. I feel that whenever I express dissatisfaction with a juice vendor, people react as though I am attacking their vaping addiction. I'm actually trying to build the accountability and quality of the vendors so vaping is more enjoyable for all of us. It's the only form of quality control we have and unfortunately sometimes it has to be negative. It's like if a car was going through a quality control process to ensure safety, they don't overlook the faulty airbags and say "great handeling!!!". I'm consistently amazing at how ignorant and animalistic we can be sometimes...
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SO TRUE!
I don't even care to read reviews anymore. I am tired of hearing its a trade secret and/or they don't want to disclose what the ingredients are. I am surprized considering the fact its my money buying the e-juice. I have wasted some money on complete disappointments in e-juice.
I am to the point of starting DIY soon. I have this visualization that some folks are mixing without regards to sanitary measures. If you really think about this-it is scary. I have been looking at this forum since July. At first I thought people knew what they were talking about...Now I know they are promoting their favorite vendor. I refuse to do that. Vendors are just that-vendors. I could care less about the family, dogs, and their personal life. I don't want them to be my friend=just honest.
In my opinion, there are two . . . well, three kinds of juice out there. Dekang, and its resellers/copiers, Gourmet, and Health Cabin. I don't know why, but Health Cabin's juice does not fit into either category to me.
I knew, from lurking around for a year before starting to vape, that there are many different suppliers with many different tastes. Knowing this, I set out to build a collection of as many samples from as many different suppliers as I could. I spent $50 spread among a few different suppliers to begin with. I entered contests, and everything I could to sample as much as I could for as little as possible. The ones who satisfy my taste-buds will earn my dollars, but not everybody will choose the same flavors and suppliers as me.
First category: Plastic, perfume, something or other. I actually have grown to like the subtle flavors in this category. This may be due to the fact that my sinus issues are starting to go away. This can take up to nine months, so I'm fully expecting my taste to keep changing. The reason I like them the most? The juices all work with each other. I can put one flavor in, then switch to another without a lot of fuss. I have a feeling that the flavor percentage in this category is on the lower end. Maybe ten percent flavor. IDK, just guessing.
Second category: Clean, vibrant flavors. Of course, a heap of horse crap is flavorful, not necessarily tasty. These flavors are either exceptionally good, or exceptionally bad. (Bornagaint's review of smoked pork comes to mind, LOL.) I have a feeling that the flavor percentages of these are in the twenty percent range. You get more flavor, and it covers up the taste of the PG, VG, and nicotine better. Of course, the same is true when the olfactory starts to work properly after not smoking for two months. I ordered 120ml of a juice that I fell in love with, but a couple weeks later, it started to smell funny to me . . . cat urine? Yeah, something like that. Now I've got nearly 100ml of a juice that I just can't stand. Will I throw it out or PIF it? No, I've still got at least seven more months before I arrive at a stable sinus status.
What's my point? Meh, I have none. My words are really meaningless because taste is subjective. I like Big Macs, some people gag at the thought of eating one. I hate caviar, others pay throw the nose for this salty, fishy, slimy nastiness. How many people like all types of chocolate? I can't really stand white chocolate (it's not really chocolate though), and I can't really go over 65% cocoa. Give me a spoon and a can of Nestle Quick, and I'll end up in the hospital from a calcium/oxalate kidney stone. I love broccoli, but can hardly stand corn, unless it is just exactly perfect.
What's my advice? Grow a tobacco plant so that you can get a pure sample, take a bit of a leaf, and chew it. That will knock your socks off. Nicotine is vile, nasty stuff. BT treats their tobacco to get rid of the unpleasant taste and bitterness. (Most poisonous plants have a bitter taste to them. Nicotine is a tobacco plant's natural pesticide.) Then, buy some PG and VG, then taste them. Just a small taste, I don't mean drink a bottle, that would harm you. I can handle the VG taste, but the PG . . . let's just say that one is going to be hard to cover in my opinion. But that's just it, my opinion and taste is different than others. I doubt anybody is telling lies about their juice reviews, and I sincerely don't think people would keep spending money to keep the industry growing if they didn't like it.
OK, now that I've used up everybody's monitor ink, one more piece of advice. One that most people ignore. When you get a juice that you don't like, make a review. Don't just write "This stuff sucks! @#%&", but actually give a coherent reason as to why you don't like it. Help the noobs out by giving them an honest review. I'm backlogged for review writing, mainly because I puffed a little and moved on to better flavors. I haven't really counted, but I have ~150 juice flavors, of which, I like ~25. The other 125 flavors . . . maybe people really do like them.
I knew, from lurking around for a year before starting to vape, that there are many different suppliers with many different tastes. Knowing this, I set out to build a collection of as many samples from as many different suppliers as I could. I spent $50 spread among a few different suppliers to begin with. I entered contests, and everything I could to sample as much as I could for as little as possible. The ones who satisfy my taste-buds will earn my dollars, but not everybody will choose the same flavors and suppliers as me.
First category: Plastic, perfume, something or other. I actually have grown to like the subtle flavors in this category. This may be due to the fact that my sinus issues are starting to go away. This can take up to nine months, so I'm fully expecting my taste to keep changing. The reason I like them the most? The juices all work with each other. I can put one flavor in, then switch to another without a lot of fuss. I have a feeling that the flavor percentage in this category is on the lower end. Maybe ten percent flavor. IDK, just guessing.
Second category: Clean, vibrant flavors. Of course, a heap of horse crap is flavorful, not necessarily tasty. These flavors are either exceptionally good, or exceptionally bad. (Bornagaint's review of smoked pork comes to mind, LOL.) I have a feeling that the flavor percentages of these are in the twenty percent range. You get more flavor, and it covers up the taste of the PG, VG, and nicotine better. Of course, the same is true when the olfactory starts to work properly after not smoking for two months. I ordered 120ml of a juice that I fell in love with, but a couple weeks later, it started to smell funny to me . . . cat urine? Yeah, something like that. Now I've got nearly 100ml of a juice that I just can't stand. Will I throw it out or PIF it? No, I've still got at least seven more months before I arrive at a stable sinus status.
What's my point? Meh, I have none. My words are really meaningless because taste is subjective. I like Big Macs, some people gag at the thought of eating one. I hate caviar, others pay throw the nose for this salty, fishy, slimy nastiness. How many people like all types of chocolate? I can't really stand white chocolate (it's not really chocolate though), and I can't really go over 65% cocoa. Give me a spoon and a can of Nestle Quick, and I'll end up in the hospital from a calcium/oxalate kidney stone. I love broccoli, but can hardly stand corn, unless it is just exactly perfect.
What's my advice? Grow a tobacco plant so that you can get a pure sample, take a bit of a leaf, and chew it. That will knock your socks off. Nicotine is vile, nasty stuff. BT treats their tobacco to get rid of the unpleasant taste and bitterness. (Most poisonous plants have a bitter taste to them. Nicotine is a tobacco plant's natural pesticide.) Then, buy some PG and VG, then taste them. Just a small taste, I don't mean drink a bottle, that would harm you. I can handle the VG taste, but the PG . . . let's just say that one is going to be hard to cover in my opinion. But that's just it, my opinion and taste is different than others. I doubt anybody is telling lies about their juice reviews, and I sincerely don't think people would keep spending money to keep the industry growing if they didn't like it.
OK, now that I've used up everybody's monitor ink, one more piece of advice. One that most people ignore. When you get a juice that you don't like, make a review. Don't just write "This stuff sucks! @#%&", but actually give a coherent reason as to why you don't like it. Help the noobs out by giving them an honest review. I'm backlogged for review writing, mainly because I puffed a little and moved on to better flavors. I haven't really counted, but I have ~150 juice flavors, of which, I like ~25. The other 125 flavors . . . maybe people really do like them.
im one of the "supertasters" and i cant stand FSUSA or any juice that has more than 20% vg. ethyl maltol is another thing i cant stand. if its in a juice, its all i can taste.
this just goes to prove how subjective taste is.
Interesting. Ethyl maltol is in so many of them I suspect, to give a richer taste. I imagine there are a lot of juices you don't like then?
I'm not sure this will help much but I suppose it can't hurt either. You could keep an eye out for people reviewing juices that seem to have the same or similar opinions of specific flavors as you. You may find a few more juices you like that way.
What I am waiting for is: scratch and sniff...sample cards ?? LOL
Reviews....on juice
Since I'm fairly new at this, I "bit" on some reviews out there.
Now I know....
Taste is subjective to my taste buds
I have about 6 bottles of "wonderful !! awesome !! flavor reviews and
they have to be some of the most disgusting flavors I have.
I received "one of those great reviews juice" recently and it has clove in it. I had to toss the cartomizer
as it was soooooo nasty.
I believe that taste buds differ and that perhaps there are many of those
who do have super sensitive tastes.
I believe that we need to be careful about the "quality" of the vendor and the products they use.
I have only received one juice with a "chemical" smell, and one month later, it still has a chemical smell. I have now tossed it, don't want that inside me, not matter what the cost of that product.
All the others I don't like...is because they truly are just not to my liking.
Juices mixed with 3-4 flavors, are a waste of money. (for me)
No way for my taste buds to figure all that out.
And then I have to think on this one....where in the world did I get the desire for
"so many" flavors....after all I went 25 years with just one...flavor of a analog !!!
My 2cents worth
Reviews....on juice
Since I'm fairly new at this, I "bit" on some reviews out there.
Now I know....
Taste is subjective to my taste buds
I have about 6 bottles of "wonderful !! awesome !! flavor reviews and
they have to be some of the most disgusting flavors I have.
I received "one of those great reviews juice" recently and it has clove in it. I had to toss the cartomizer
as it was soooooo nasty.
I believe that taste buds differ and that perhaps there are many of those
who do have super sensitive tastes.
I believe that we need to be careful about the "quality" of the vendor and the products they use.
I have only received one juice with a "chemical" smell, and one month later, it still has a chemical smell. I have now tossed it, don't want that inside me, not matter what the cost of that product.
All the others I don't like...is because they truly are just not to my liking.
Juices mixed with 3-4 flavors, are a waste of money. (for me)
No way for my taste buds to figure all that out.
And then I have to think on this one....where in the world did I get the desire for
"so many" flavors....after all I went 25 years with just one...flavor of a analog !!!
My 2cents worth
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What have I started LOL! Love it, love it! Finally, I see people speaking up and admitting to not liking certain e-liquids. I knew you were out there. Very few reviews out there saying the juice sucks!
FYI, this is what I go through to test each new flavor I get; and I don't change the process any. I vape on an 808 and a 510. During the day or work on on a 808 PT.
My flavor testing; plain crackers to my side with a fresh bottle of water. Several clean atty's, clean drip tips, empty carts and carto's.
I first fill up a cart, then a carto and let them sit for a few minutes.
I drip test first. Clean or switch to a new atty, then try the juice in a cart. I note the difference if any. Yes, I keep a note book or a flavor diary if you must call it that...but please don't, and no jokes okay? LOL.
I then try the flavor in the carto. So in reality I'm trying it 3 different ways in what I like to vape. I'm not going to switch what I like to use because it 'may' change the flavor. Nope, not going there.
Inbetween each test I do eat a cracker and drink some water to remove any remaining flavor.
I do agree with others that hardward can make a difference. If you're going to test flavors than make sure your hardward is fresh and clean.
Here's another point which I find (for myself). Flavors do change between atty's, dripping, carts, fillers, and carto's. I don't want to agrue the point, but I have tasted a slight difference.
As for the crappy tasting liquids out there, some will not change with steeping. Like cheap bad wine, it won't get any better with time.
I do have to give credit where due. There is a pair of guys who do flavor reviews on YouTube (sorry can't recall their handle). What I do like is both will vape the same liquid; one will love it the other, not so much; and they both have different opinions. But who do I believe LOL?
I know it's a PITA for suppliers to make samples, but I believe more suppliers should offer sample sizes of their juice. Frankly I'm getting tired of paying for juice that won't get any better or wasting my time trying to trade someone for another flavor.
If I was able to try out several sample sizes first I wouldn't feel so bad about wasting so much money on full size ones. Too bad not many suppliers sell sample sizes.
Gotta go, food on the table. Enjoy your Holiday and may everyone have a safe, warm and peaceful holiday.
FYI, this is what I go through to test each new flavor I get; and I don't change the process any. I vape on an 808 and a 510. During the day or work on on a 808 PT.
My flavor testing; plain crackers to my side with a fresh bottle of water. Several clean atty's, clean drip tips, empty carts and carto's.
I first fill up a cart, then a carto and let them sit for a few minutes.
I drip test first. Clean or switch to a new atty, then try the juice in a cart. I note the difference if any. Yes, I keep a note book or a flavor diary if you must call it that...but please don't, and no jokes okay? LOL.
I then try the flavor in the carto. So in reality I'm trying it 3 different ways in what I like to vape. I'm not going to switch what I like to use because it 'may' change the flavor. Nope, not going there.
Inbetween each test I do eat a cracker and drink some water to remove any remaining flavor.
I do agree with others that hardward can make a difference. If you're going to test flavors than make sure your hardward is fresh and clean.
Here's another point which I find (for myself). Flavors do change between atty's, dripping, carts, fillers, and carto's. I don't want to agrue the point, but I have tasted a slight difference.
As for the crappy tasting liquids out there, some will not change with steeping. Like cheap bad wine, it won't get any better with time.
I do have to give credit where due. There is a pair of guys who do flavor reviews on YouTube (sorry can't recall their handle). What I do like is both will vape the same liquid; one will love it the other, not so much; and they both have different opinions. But who do I believe LOL?
I know it's a PITA for suppliers to make samples, but I believe more suppliers should offer sample sizes of their juice. Frankly I'm getting tired of paying for juice that won't get any better or wasting my time trying to trade someone for another flavor.
If I was able to try out several sample sizes first I wouldn't feel so bad about wasting so much money on full size ones. Too bad not many suppliers sell sample sizes.
Gotta go, food on the table. Enjoy your Holiday and may everyone have a safe, warm and peaceful holiday.
Yeah even some sort of small sample vial with 10 drops or so would be awesome but I'm sure it really isn't cost effective for the smaller guys especially when people out there take advantage of it. But charging even a small fee for a sample like that is better than wasting 10x the amount on a larger bottle of something you end up hating. I have to give Freedom Smokes USA a big thumbs up for sending me two free 3ml samples with my first order with them last week. I ended up loving one of the flavors and when they get it back in stock I will be buying a large bottle of that and maybe a smaller bottle of the other because it was pretty pleasant as well.
Smoking Bullet,
As a DIYer, that perfume flavor and smell is in some flavorings too! In the concentrated flavorings that contain no nicotine or VG! It's very evident in the Tea flavors and White Grape too.
Lori
As a DIYer, that perfume flavor and smell is in some flavorings too! In the concentrated flavorings that contain no nicotine or VG! It's very evident in the Tea flavors and White Grape too.
Lori
Being so picky on flavors, especially the dessert ones, I have to let everyone know about a new supplier; Kick Bass Vapor I couldn't resist trying some of their flavors and much to my surprise I'm impressed!
No steeping required, shake and vape. I didn't taste any perfumey taste or chemical flavors.
I'm generally a menthol vaper with a sweet tooth who loves the dessert flavors. I only had 2 suppliers who I thought are right on with their flavors, now I have to admit I've just added a 3rd one who's Kick #ss, right on with their flavors. Not overpoweringly sweet, great flavor and vape. Kudo's to Kick Bass Vapors! You've got me as a customer from this point on. Can't wait to receive the other flavors I ordered. I know I won't be upset.
And yes, I finally broke down and ordered a fruit flavor; Strawberry Pie although I absolutely hate artificial fruit flavor anything. I'm really hoping Kiss Bass will prove me wrong.
No steeping required, shake and vape. I didn't taste any perfumey taste or chemical flavors.
I'm generally a menthol vaper with a sweet tooth who loves the dessert flavors. I only had 2 suppliers who I thought are right on with their flavors, now I have to admit I've just added a 3rd one who's Kick #ss, right on with their flavors. Not overpoweringly sweet, great flavor and vape. Kudo's to Kick Bass Vapors! You've got me as a customer from this point on. Can't wait to receive the other flavors I ordered. I know I won't be upset.
And yes, I finally broke down and ordered a fruit flavor; Strawberry Pie although I absolutely hate artificial fruit flavor anything. I'm really hoping Kiss Bass will prove me wrong.
That Ethyl Maltol is horrible.
I have extremely sensitive taste buds. Part of it comes from years of attending wine-tastings while the rest is from making Lemonade out of Lemons. We traveled a lot during my childhood thanks to an abusive alcoholic father who liked to beat the crap out of his 2 kids (myself being the oldest so I often stepped in to pick a fight to keep him off my younger brother who just couldn't handle the abuse)... On the downside, mother always reconciled with him until after I'd left home; however, the upside is the fact I was able to eat foods from different areas and even different ethic foods. Prime example is Cajun Cuisine. There is nothing better than scoping out the best places to eat in The Quarter and then finding the best jazz or blues club/pub to enjoy great music and smooth drinks particularly when carding wasn't really big down there. LOL! I also enjoyed foods from Virginia & DC in the Arlington, Alexandria, and esp Old Town Alexandria along with Washington, DC. There are wonderful places to eat and the catering of meals range from cheap but delicious to formal multiple course dining on the expensive side.
I also love espresso and espresso-based coffees like cappas and lattes. I buy beans I know I will like from countries I like and either get them roasted or I roast them myself. I have a Rancillio Miss Silvia with matching Rocky doserless burr grinder. I also have a French Press that allows me to enjoy flavored beans from places like CoffeeAM where the roasting is great and whole beans is the primary purchase options. I'm somewhat of a coffee snob, a wine snob, & food snob. I'm especially rather snobby when it comes to matching foods with specific wines. I prefer wines that enhance or bring out the best flavors of the meal.
I guess I should say that I'm also picky over mixed drinks. there's a Ruby Tuesday's nearby where my oldest daughter and I would go each year on her birthday for our birthday meal together. I was always irritated b/c I enjoy a Gibson mixed drink; however, RT's can't seem to make a true Gibson, which does not, just for clarity, include vodka. It is a mix of vermouth and gin then garnished with brine-soaked onions; however, every time I order a Gibson (I stopped ordering them b/c I got tired of having to explain to the bartenders how to mix the d-med drink) they always put vodka in it and somehow never had brine onions! Maybe it's just a kick-back from the many countless shifts I worked Monday through Saturday nights while working a day job as well and working during the day on the weekends to keep a roof over our heads that makes me so cranky when my cocktails aren't mixed right. But it's driving me bonkers to have them screw up each and every single time I go into the restaurant, order the same drink, which I am quite certain is not a popular drink but it's mixed almost identical to a Martini yet they don't use vermouth and gin in their martinis either. They use vodka. At least they have the brine-soaked olives... That's about the only good thing I can say about them. Well, that and the fact they can mix a nice Buttery Nipple only it has no bite to it.
I mixed drinks in the bridal dressing room for the age-appropriate maid of honor, bride (my daughter), and age-appropriate bridesmaids as we were getting ready for the wedding. Now my Screwdrivers have bite to them. I kept telling my daughter the drinks they mixed tasted like a fruit punch without alcohol. Now she has a clear understanding as to why I felt they did. LOL! I had to remind her that her mother not only was definitely NOT a saint growing up but took my job as a barmaid as seriously as I took my drinking. My favorites for a while was rum and coke, then 25yo single-malt scotch (tho' too expensive for my wallet but I never turned one down when a customer bought me one), and I was a Tequila drinking with Tabasco & lemon and/or lime (keep the bottle on the table) while cousins and I ordered this huge platter of mud bugs (crawfish) from a restaurant that had the best mud bugs around then we'd go out to the blues clubs/pubs and/or jazz clubs/pubs then occasionally we'd end up in a rockabilly club/pub too.
New Orleans & The Quarter in Louisiana has three things that are unbeatable anywhere and that's a) great booze, b) great food, and c) great music w/ booze on the side. Actually, make that 4 things... D) GREAT PEOPLE!
I have extremely sensitive taste buds. Part of it comes from years of attending wine-tastings while the rest is from making Lemonade out of Lemons. We traveled a lot during my childhood thanks to an abusive alcoholic father who liked to beat the crap out of his 2 kids (myself being the oldest so I often stepped in to pick a fight to keep him off my younger brother who just couldn't handle the abuse)... On the downside, mother always reconciled with him until after I'd left home; however, the upside is the fact I was able to eat foods from different areas and even different ethic foods. Prime example is Cajun Cuisine. There is nothing better than scoping out the best places to eat in The Quarter and then finding the best jazz or blues club/pub to enjoy great music and smooth drinks particularly when carding wasn't really big down there. LOL! I also enjoyed foods from Virginia & DC in the Arlington, Alexandria, and esp Old Town Alexandria along with Washington, DC. There are wonderful places to eat and the catering of meals range from cheap but delicious to formal multiple course dining on the expensive side.
I also love espresso and espresso-based coffees like cappas and lattes. I buy beans I know I will like from countries I like and either get them roasted or I roast them myself. I have a Rancillio Miss Silvia with matching Rocky doserless burr grinder. I also have a French Press that allows me to enjoy flavored beans from places like CoffeeAM where the roasting is great and whole beans is the primary purchase options. I'm somewhat of a coffee snob, a wine snob, & food snob. I'm especially rather snobby when it comes to matching foods with specific wines. I prefer wines that enhance or bring out the best flavors of the meal.
I guess I should say that I'm also picky over mixed drinks. there's a Ruby Tuesday's nearby where my oldest daughter and I would go each year on her birthday for our birthday meal together. I was always irritated b/c I enjoy a Gibson mixed drink; however, RT's can't seem to make a true Gibson, which does not, just for clarity, include vodka. It is a mix of vermouth and gin then garnished with brine-soaked onions; however, every time I order a Gibson (I stopped ordering them b/c I got tired of having to explain to the bartenders how to mix the d-med drink) they always put vodka in it and somehow never had brine onions! Maybe it's just a kick-back from the many countless shifts I worked Monday through Saturday nights while working a day job as well and working during the day on the weekends to keep a roof over our heads that makes me so cranky when my cocktails aren't mixed right. But it's driving me bonkers to have them screw up each and every single time I go into the restaurant, order the same drink, which I am quite certain is not a popular drink but it's mixed almost identical to a Martini yet they don't use vermouth and gin in their martinis either. They use vodka. At least they have the brine-soaked olives... That's about the only good thing I can say about them. Well, that and the fact they can mix a nice Buttery Nipple only it has no bite to it.
I mixed drinks in the bridal dressing room for the age-appropriate maid of honor, bride (my daughter), and age-appropriate bridesmaids as we were getting ready for the wedding. Now my Screwdrivers have bite to them. I kept telling my daughter the drinks they mixed tasted like a fruit punch without alcohol. Now she has a clear understanding as to why I felt they did. LOL! I had to remind her that her mother not only was definitely NOT a saint growing up but took my job as a barmaid as seriously as I took my drinking. My favorites for a while was rum and coke, then 25yo single-malt scotch (tho' too expensive for my wallet but I never turned one down when a customer bought me one), and I was a Tequila drinking with Tabasco & lemon and/or lime (keep the bottle on the table) while cousins and I ordered this huge platter of mud bugs (crawfish) from a restaurant that had the best mud bugs around then we'd go out to the blues clubs/pubs and/or jazz clubs/pubs then occasionally we'd end up in a rockabilly club/pub too.
New Orleans & The Quarter in Louisiana has three things that are unbeatable anywhere and that's a) great booze, b) great food, and c) great music w/ booze on the side. Actually, make that 4 things... D) GREAT PEOPLE!
I completely understand what the OP is saying. I've now purchased 90+ bottles of juice. Of those, I have one I enjoy and perhaps 2-3 more that I can tolerate. My super sensitive nose and tastebuds have *really* gone into overdrive since I quit smoking. Even as a smoker, I could smell things most people didn't notice.
Now, it's to the point of being ridiculous. Perfect example, we were at the mall today. I stepped outside to vape. No one was around but I could smell cigarette smoke. I looked around and could see no one. Curious, I checked around the corner of the building and walked out into the parking lot a bit. I finally saw the smoking guy, sitting in his car more than 50 yards away with the windows up.
I can tell what shampoo strangers use just by standing near them. I can smell all sorts of stuff that when I say, "You smell that?" I get looks like I'm crazy.
If that weren't bad enough, my tastebuds have *really* become sensitve.
I know there are chemicals in some juices because I can taste them. Now, whether the juices are made with chemicals, or if the chemicals from the plastic bottles leach into the juice, or if chemicals were used to clean the equipment that the juice was prepared in, I don't know. I assure you, the chemicals are present, even if in a tiny amount.
I have trouble using cartomizers for the same reason. When the wire heats up, I can taste/ smell it. I know 99 out of 100 people would have no idea what I'm talking about.
It sounds funny, but it really kind of sucks. Numerous types of foods, gum, drinks, perfumes, and the like are now off limits to me.
Ironically, that dang cigarette smoke still smells great, even though I can now identify the different notes of chemicals in them. *rolls eyes*
Ah well. So it goes.
Now, it's to the point of being ridiculous. Perfect example, we were at the mall today. I stepped outside to vape. No one was around but I could smell cigarette smoke. I looked around and could see no one. Curious, I checked around the corner of the building and walked out into the parking lot a bit. I finally saw the smoking guy, sitting in his car more than 50 yards away with the windows up.
I can tell what shampoo strangers use just by standing near them. I can smell all sorts of stuff that when I say, "You smell that?" I get looks like I'm crazy.
If that weren't bad enough, my tastebuds have *really* become sensitve.
I know there are chemicals in some juices because I can taste them. Now, whether the juices are made with chemicals, or if the chemicals from the plastic bottles leach into the juice, or if chemicals were used to clean the equipment that the juice was prepared in, I don't know. I assure you, the chemicals are present, even if in a tiny amount.
I have trouble using cartomizers for the same reason. When the wire heats up, I can taste/ smell it. I know 99 out of 100 people would have no idea what I'm talking about.
It sounds funny, but it really kind of sucks. Numerous types of foods, gum, drinks, perfumes, and the like are now off limits to me.
Ironically, that dang cigarette smoke still smells great, even though I can now identify the different notes of chemicals in them. *rolls eyes*
Ah well. So it goes.
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