E-LIQUIDS, SUGAR & TEETH...(need info)

[callmemario]

I've read somewhere that there is NO sugar in e-liquids because it would NOT work well with the atomizer since it would not last long.

BUT, since there seems to be opposite opinions circulating around...WHAT is the truth about e-liquids, DO THEY contain sugar (as we know it) and if so HOW does it affects the teeth?...more cavities?...gum problems?

What is your experience with this? I really want to hear what you have to say on this.

Thank you.

Mario

 

[steved5600]

I can't imagine they use sugar as it will carbonize and muck up a atty quick. That carbon is also an electrical conductor. Not good. I've been wondering what will work. Like stivia or the like.
OH not to mention that any residue would be nasty on contacts.
i am not a dentist but I was always told if you drink with a straw you get less sugar on your teeth. That may be an urban legend but when you vape doesn't most of it go past the teeth?????????

 

[MISTer E]

As this nearly toothless old coot comprehends it, a constant dry mouth (from any cause) leads higher percentages of tooth/gum damaging organisms dominating the good bad organism balance of ones saliva, more than a normally salivated mouth. Dry mouth is a side effect of vaping PG. (not sure about VG)

Biotene makes a toothpaste & I think a mouthwash for people with dry mouth. It contains no SLS(Sodium Lauryl Sulfate)AKA the stuff in most store bought toothpastes that can cause mouth/canker sores. Cigs are thought to somehow kill the organisms that cause canker sores & often when people stop smoking, all of a sudden get them(some falsely blame or suspect vaping to be the cause). Here is a link to their product page & Amzon sells their products. Dry Mouth Toothpaste For Dry Mouth Symptom Relief | Products | Biotene

 

[mrmiller96]

I could be wrong, but from what I understand the sweetener most commonly used to make sweet eliquids is Saccharin.

 

[axolotly]

As this nearly toothless old coot comprehends it, a constant dry mouth (from any cause) leads higher percentages of tooth/gum damaging organisms dominating the good bad organism balance of ones saliva, more than a normally salivated mouth. Dry mouth is a side effect of vaping PG. (not sure about VG)

Biotene makes a toothpaste & I think a mouthwash for people with dry mouth. It contains no SLS(Sodium Lauryl Sulfate)AKA the stuff in most store bought toothpastes that can cause mouth/canker sores. Cigs are thought to somehow kill the organisms that cause canker sores & often when people stop smoking, all of a sudden get them(some falsely blame or suspect vaping to be the cause). Here is a link to their product page & Amzon sells their products. Dry Mouth Toothpaste For Dry Mouth Symptom Relief | Products | Biotene

I've been using Biotene gum and mouth-spray. Helps tremendously.

 

[xanderxman]

I am 6 weeks in to vaping and just had a dentist appointment today. The hygenist was impressed with my mouth and my dentist felt I had done the right thing by switching to vaping over smoking. No cavities for 18 months and I drink at least 2L of Mountain Dew and vape like a pig every day. Not sure about sugar in eliquid but I am certain that I am better off vaping than smoking.

I also take in about 2 - 4L of water each day on top of the 2L of Mountain Dew.

 

[Vampirecat019]

Yep, they said it. E-liquid often contains sucralose or equivalents, which are like Splenda, a sweetener, but not sugar. It sounds like sucrose, which is sugar. E-juice contains humectants (pg) which absorb moisture, thus giving us the dry mouth/throat, which can exacerbate tooth decay, since enzymes present in saliva which neutralize the acids that cause cavities are decreased. So, the lesson here is to always drink plenty of water, especially when vaping.

PS- There is NO sugar in any respectable e-liquid. It would mold quickly, especially this time of year, and especially when we're all "steeping" our juices!

 

[Dwyzane]

Never thought of vaping and dental issues in the same sentence. Lol, no doubt it is interesting to say the least.

 

[j4mmin42]

Never thought of vaping and dental issues in the same sentence. Lol, no doubt it is interesting to say the least.

Agreed, this is a great topic to discuss... I haven't seen any posts about it here before- not anywhere on the site, much less the new members' forum.

I agree with drinking water: DRINK WATER... it will only benefit you in the long run. It also helps to clear your body of all of the toxins from cigarette smoking quicker!

 

[axolotly]

I agree with drinking water: DRINK WATER... it will only benefit you in the long run. It also helps to clear your body of all of the toxins from cigarette smoking quicker!

Regarding this, I definitely know something is going on with my body from quiting smoking. What are the actual toxins I am expelling, and what is the process typically like? I always kind of accept "detoxing", but I don't know the details.

 

[trevorsdad]

Being new to vaping and also being a diabetic made me very cautious when I started. I had read rumors of vaping causing an issue with sugar levels. Some said they had drops in sugar levels and some said they had spikes. So when I started vaping, I tested my sugar levels constantly. One test before a "vape sesson", the second test 15 minutes later, and a final test 30 minutes later. I can say that with the 15 different flavors I have so far, that there has been no issue with my sugar levels at all. To put it plainly, my sugar levels did not change a single bit. I have to conclude that with the liquids I have, there is no sugar at all in it.

On a side note, because I have picked a lot of sweet tasting juice, that I have had less cravings to eat sweets.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Ethyl Maltol/ Cotton Candy is used as a sweetener in Ejuice and is a refined sugar that occurs naturally in cereal, bread crust, coffee, and cocoa. Ethyl Maltol was discovered in the 1970s. It was originally isolated from larch tree bark and is produced through fermentation-organic synthesis.The compound has been employed as a flavor enhancer/ sweetener in wine, chocolate, vanilla, fruit flavored drinks, pastries, candy, tobacco, cosmetics, and medicines.
As for dental health nicotine has been proven in studies to promote blood vessel growth and hence the issue of bleeding gums when we first begin vaping. Smoking is detrimental to oral health because it separates the gum tissue from the teeth leading to gum disease. I am allergic to Ethyl Maltol so I no longer use it.
In regards to dental health my dental hygienist and dentist have noticed a huge improvement in my gums and teeth and are extremely pleased I am vaping. Used to have to go for cleanings every 3 months...now go every 6 months and it's a breeze. The one major downside of vaping and oral health is the fact that PG and VG are hygroscopic- they both trap moisture from our bodies and thus the vapor. Dehydration is a common issue for those that don't stay hydrated. I drink at least 1 1/2 liters of water per day. PG also coats the oral, throat and nasal areas- I gargle with fresh squeezed lemon and water once per day and use a sinus rinse and nasal lubricant. Sucralose, Bottled Stevia are other known sweeteners used in Ejuice.

I've read somewhere that there is NO sugar in E-liquids because it would NOT work well with the atomizer since it would not last long.

BUT, since there seems to be opposite opinions circulating around...WHAT is the truth about E-liquids, DO THEY contain sugar (as we know it) and if so HOW does it affects the teeth?...more cavities?...gum problems?

What is your experience with this? I really want to hear what you have to say on this.

Thank you.

Mario

 

[callmemario]

LOVE everyone's comments & inputs!

 

[j4mmin42]

Regarding this, I definitely know something is going on with my body from quiting smoking. What are the actual toxins I am expelling, and what is the process typically like? I always kind of accept "detoxing", but I don't know the details.

Detox is something everybody goes through when quitting. It happens at various rates for different chemicals and compounds- for example, it takes a few days for all of the carbon monoxide to leave your system after quitting. Certain compounds, like heavy metals, take much longer to get expelled, upwards of years/decades.

When it comes to psychoactive substances like nicotine, and its maoi-like "cousins" (alkaloids) found in tobacco, it is a relatively short detox period, and the mental effects can be staggering-as anyone who has quit cold-turkey will tell you, it is very, very difficult for your brain and other bodily systems to readjust to the *absence* of these toxic substances...strange how that works, isn't it?

Each subsystem of your body has differing rates of detoxification, with the liver being one of the longest-effected because it handles the bulk of detoxification processes in adults, and the circulatory and lymphatic systems coming in a close second here due to their relationship in the process. The kidneys also play a role here as well. In fact, even the skin plays a part in the process!

Because we take in some nicotine through our PV's, we'll never really know exactly what quitting cold-turkey feels like (again)- unless we start smoking again and quit without PV's the next time.

 

[axolotly]

Detox is something everybody goes through when quitting. It happens at various rates for different chemicals and compounds- for example, it takes a few days for all of the carbon monoxide to leave your system after quitting. Certain compounds, like heavy metals, take much longer to get expelled, upwards of years/decades.

When it comes to psychoactive substances like nicotine, and its maoi-like "cousins" (alkaloids) found in tobacco, it is a relatively short detox period, and the mental effects can be staggering-as anyone who has quit cold-turkey will tell you, it is very, very difficult for your brain and other bodily systems to readjust to the *absence* of these toxic substances...strange how that works, isn't it?

Each subsystem of your body has differing rates of detoxification, with the liver being one of the longest-effected because it handles the bulk of detoxification processes in adults, and the circulatory and lymphatic systems coming in a close second here due to their relationship in the process. The kidneys also play a role here as well. In fact, even the skin plays a part in the process!

Because we take in some nicotine through our PV's, we'll never really know exactly what quitting cold-turkey feels like (again)- unless we start smoking again and quit without PV's the next time.

Thanks, buddy - this helps.

 

[milkdudes007]

Sidney, dont stop vaping brother. Its not the PG or nicotine that is causing your sugar levels to spike. It is the sweeteners that are in your juice causing you these sugar spike problems. A lot of vendors out there are putting an ingredient called ethyl maltol in ejuice, which is an artificial sweetener. These sweeteners trick your body into thinking its getting sugar causing your body to produce insulin to even it out. That is why you are getting a sugar high.

RiP Trippers in reply to SidneyXda1 month ago { From utube this is what I found.}

 

[callmemario]

Wooow, now THAT was quite an interesting and scientific reply! Really good information to know. Thanks!

Mario

Ethyl Maltol/ Cotton Candy is used as a sweetener in Ejuice and is a refined sugar that occurs naturally in cereal, bread crust, coffee, and cocoa. Ethyl Maltol was discovered in the 1970s. It was originally isolated from larch tree bark and is produced through fermentation-organic synthesis.The compound has been employed as a flavor enhancer/ sweetener in wine, chocolate, vanilla, fruit flavored drinks, pastries, candy, tobacco, cosmetics, and medicines.
As for dental health nicotine has been proven in studies to promote blood vessel growth and hence the issue of bleeding gums when we first begin vaping. Smoking is detrimental to oral health because it separates the gum tissue from the teeth leading to gum disease. I am allergic to Ethyl Maltol so I no longer use it.
In regards to dental health my dental hygienist and dentist have noticed a huge improvement in my gums and teeth and are extremely pleased I am vaping. Used to have to go for cleanings every 3 months...now go every 6 months and it's a breeze. The one major downside of vaping and oral health is the fact that PG and VG are hygroscopic- they both trap moisture from our bodies and thus the vapor. Dehydration is a common issue for those that don't stay hydrated. I drink at least 1 1/2 liters of water per day. PG also coats the oral, throat and nasal areas- I gargle with fresh squeezed lemon and water once per day and use a sinus rinse and nasal lubricant. Sucralose, Bottled Stevia are other known sweeteners used in Ejuice.

 

[callmemario]

My oh my! all you Chemists/Doctors/Pharmacists/Science buffs out there coming up with such informative stuff! Keep it comin, I love it! we need solid scientific information.

Detox is something everybody goes through when quitting. It happens at various rates for different chemicals and compounds- for example, it takes a few days for all of the carbon monoxide to leave your system after quitting. Certain compounds, like heavy metals, take much longer to get expelled, upwards of years/decades.

When it comes to psychoactive substances like nicotine, and its maoi-like "cousins" (alkaloids) found in tobacco, it is a relatively short detox period, and the mental effects can be staggering-as anyone who has quit cold-turkey will tell you, it is very, very difficult for your brain and other bodily systems to readjust to the *absence* of these toxic substances...strange how that works, isn't it?

Each subsystem of your body has differing rates of detoxification, with the liver being one of the longest-effected because it handles the bulk of detoxification processes in adults, and the circulatory and lymphatic systems coming in a close second here due to their relationship in the process. The kidneys also play a role here as well. In fact, even the skin plays a part in the process!

Because we take in some nicotine through our PV's, we'll never really know exactly what quitting cold-turkey feels like (again)- unless we start smoking again and quit without PV's the next time.

 

[callmemario]

Interesting! So WHERE can we get "SAFE" "NATURAL" good first quality E-juice out there we can actually trust to put in our bodies?...

Sidney, dont stop vaping brother. Its not the PG or nicotine that is causing your sugar levels to spike. It is the sweeteners that are in your juice causing you these sugar spike problems. A lot of vendors out there are putting an ingredient called ethyl maltol in ejuice, which is an artificial sweetener. These sweeteners trick your body into thinking its getting sugar causing your body to produce insulin to even it out. That is why you are getting a sugar high.

RiP Trippers in reply to SidneyXda1 month ago { From utube this is what I found.}

 

[callmemario]

From Wikipedia: "Hygroscopy is the ability of a substance to attract and hold water molecules from the surrounding environment."
Now, if this is the case, vapors are being inhaled therefore we should not feel dehydrated?...WHAT is actually being absorbed by the lungs and mucus membranes?...PG/VG Molecules containing water that will NOT be released in the body?

Meanwhile I will continue drinking lot's of water like everyone else prech on these forums.



The one major downside of vaping and oral health is the fact that PG and VG are hygroscopic- they both trap moisture from our bodies and thus the vapor. Dehydration is a common issue for those that don't stay hydrated. I drink at least 1 1/2 liters of water per day. PG also coats the oral, throat and nasal areas- I gargle with fresh squeezed lemon and water once per day and use a sinus rinse and nasal lubricant. Sucralose, Bottled Stevia are other known sweeteners used in Ejuice.[/QUOTE]