2.4 to 2.5 ohm is way to low, i know some like it but it causes the issues you are expereincing.
E2 Revision 4 Cartomizer Discussion
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Guys I cut a long piece of the PTB material they supply,, 1/4 inch all the way around the square until I end up with one long piece, then I took my tweezers and carefully slid it down along side of the wick to get it all in there and left the last 1/4" to fold over the ceramic cup and filled all the way up unit the piece over the cup was wet so I know for sure it all wicked, works pretty darn good give it a try, I know it defeats the whole purpose of no filler but if your tired of it not wicking and getting vapor this will do the trick for sure
My vapor touch should be here tomorrow and I have no new cartosWaiting on someone here to hook me up if his order comes in proper. After that I'm gonna order a batch of 100 510 at 3+ ohm.
A couple of friends of mine use 510 mega batts and ego, is 3+ gonna be good for them or do the need the lower ohm cartos with them. My only answer to them is to wait till I get mine and try the 3+ ohm and see what they think.
They don't want to wait... Sigh. I think the guy with mega 510 is getting the 2.6-2.8 Is this a bad Idea? Should he also get the 3-3.2 ohm?
I think it's a personal preference thing. Also be aware that the new range of 2.8-3 ohms is now offered.
Imo the 2.8 to 3 range is the best.
I have used their Dekang PEG and their Dekang VG, both of them work perfectly. The wicks do work, it's just that Lptb works distinctly better. I think somebody mentioned that they were not approved, and seeing today some posts about trade secrets, I wonder if that has to do with their not approving Lptb.
...because then it wouldn't be a secret?
I have used their Dekang PEG and their Dekang VG, both of them work perfectly. The wicks do work, it's just that Lptb works distinctly better. I think somebody mentioned that they were not approved, and seeing today some posts about trade secrets, I wonder if that has to do with their not approving Lptb.
i feel like the chinese know that the PTB is better but by them providing the cartos the way WE want them and the way WE blieve they work the best... thier sales will diminish because the cartos will beocm emore durable and last longer...... there whole intention was to make a disposable product.. i blieve we ar etrying to stretch disposing it as long as we can....which is a good thing for us......not so much for them.....
While I totaly agree, imagine if they came PTB'd already and working the way they are suppose too, id pay more and id buy more.
they dont leak, the ohms are at all ranges(2.4 to 3.2, so thats handled), primer is gone, connectors arent dented and they fire on all devices. So lets be honest, whats the only complaint left then.
The wicking, the dry taste or bad taste people are experiencing,which is partially a ohm issue coupled with the wick, now we know when we cut the wick and add ptb with tails those issues go away also the higher ohms helps with the wicking as well... Thats the consensus that im reading.
the filler plug needs a bigger fill hole but that doesnt need some approval by the fda, all that needs is a bigger hole.
SO if they where to add the ptb and the e2 wicks incredibly then everyone would know these are the best things going, the wick is kind of holding it back from being incredible but its usable nonetheless.
they dont leak, the ohms are at all ranges(2.4 to 3.2, so thats handled), primer is gone, connectors arent dented and they fire on all devices. So lets be honest, whats the only complaint left then.
The wicking, the dry taste or bad taste people are experiencing,which is partially a ohm issue coupled with the wick, now we know when we cut the wick and add ptb with tails those issues go away also the higher ohms helps with the wicking as well... Thats the consensus that im reading.
the filler plug needs a bigger fill hole but that doesnt need some approval by the fda, all that needs is a bigger hole.
SO if they where to add the ptb and the e2 wicks incredibly then everyone would know these are the best things going, the wick is kind of holding it back from being incredible but its usable nonetheless.
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Well there's nothing wrong with offering disposable cartos, I just think we also want them to offer durable cartos able to be maintained.
It' like buying tires, anti-freeze, or batteries for your car, if companies intended to make them disposable after 90 days, then it sounds like they don't want to build 3 year batteries and 90,000 mile tires, because then it's good for us but bad for them?
It's not easy to understand it, seeing that there is indeed 5 year anti-freeze offered and 90,000mile tires, though on the other hand, I have heard that high mpg cars were possible eons ago...like the Geo Metro which could get about 50mpg about 20 years ago or something lke that.
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Badkolo just posted above me, and I agree, we need China to build the better and improved cartos that outlast these and people can maintain, and then simply let the price tags do the rest.
I would gladly pay triple to 5 times more than these 90 cent E2s, for cartos that can unscrew at the top, can use ptb or replaceable wick strips, etc. ..Heck, I was already payin up to $7 to $10 for old school bridge atomizers!
It' like buying tires, anti-freeze, or batteries for your car, if companies intended to make them disposable after 90 days, then it sounds like they don't want to build 3 year batteries and 90,000 mile tires, because then it's good for us but bad for them?
It's not easy to understand it, seeing that there is indeed 5 year anti-freeze offered and 90,000mile tires, though on the other hand, I have heard that high mpg cars were possible eons ago...like the Geo Metro which could get about 50mpg about 20 years ago or something lke that.
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Badkolo just posted above me, and I agree, we need China to build the better and improved cartos that outlast these and people can maintain, and then simply let the price tags do the rest.
I would gladly pay triple to 5 times more than these 90 cent E2s, for cartos that can unscrew at the top, can use ptb or replaceable wick strips, etc. ..Heck, I was already payin up to $7 to $10 for old school bridge atomizers!
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How much larger do you think they can make the filler hole without it leaking under all conditions? I have not done any experimenting along that line.
The Regular length E2 that I am testing at this time is wicking better than most XL's, so I believe it comes closer to passing muster.
Exactly why I'm glad I ordered the short 3-3.2 ohm cartos this time. Speaking of which, my order seems to have fallen off the radar screen. The last tracking was 3 days ago in China. Hope it doesn't get mis-directed to Texas (or worse yet - New York).
ill do the happy dance on video if they send me your order by mistake., i mean ill feel bad for you but i wont.lol
What if they send me YOUR order by mistake? Where will I put them all?!?
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just hope that BanjoMan doesn't do your voodoo dance, like you did a long time ago.
I agree hands down with this! For the price you'll get NO COMPLAINTS from me. I vape on my eGo almost two days on my XL E2 (R4) cartos and it's wonderful NOT having to carry about of juice around to 'top' off or 'drip' every few minutes. I had far more 'issues' with Atomizers than these. I'm never going back to Atomizers... they were good while they lasted but I got tired of getting 'bad' ones from the same vendors... no consistency whatsoever. I may have to 'fiddle' with these, but they're worth it. I've used them for weeks now.. I've refilled some of them dozens of times and it's like the 'first' time every time for me... they do what they claim they do and more with a little modding. I just hope they never stop making them.
I'm with many of you... we want a low cost alternative to smoking and 'this' new generation carto is it. (IMHO) It's a chinese conspiracy... really? Is that what I just read? It's a conspiracy to not put lipton tea bags in cartos? Really? I'm not a fan of "that vendor" but seriously. That a bit far fetched... no?
Here's my solution to the wicking problem:
Use a bigger wick. One that is both wider and reaches the bottom of the cart. This would also include widening the slits on the ceramic cup and making sure the coil isn't wrapped tight enough to restrict wicking. This would provide more liquid to a coil that is burning juice too quickly.
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on to microcig if you feel fit. I think it is a logical and simple solution and I don't remember anyone bringing it up.
Use a bigger wick. One that is both wider and reaches the bottom of the cart. This would also include widening the slits on the ceramic cup and making sure the coil isn't wrapped tight enough to restrict wicking. This would provide more liquid to a coil that is burning juice too quickly.
Pass my
on to microcig if you feel fit. I think it is a logical and simple solution and I don't remember anyone bringing it up.
Silica rope doesn't seem to have very good capillary characteristics. I would suggest using the silica sleeve, wrap the coil around the sleeve and run a wick with better capillary characteristics through it. This keeps the non-silica wick from burning, which keeps the silica wet with juice and everyone is happy. In theory anyway.
I agree hands down with this! For the price you'll get NO COMPLAINTS from me. I vape on my eGo almost two days on my XL E2 (R4) cartos and it's wonderful NOT having to carry about of juice around to 'top' off or 'drip' every few minutes. I had far more 'issues' with Atomizers than these. I'm never going back to Atomizers... they were good while they lasted but I got tired of getting 'bad' ones from the same vendors... no consistency whatsoever. I may have to 'fiddle' with these, but they're worth it. I've used them for weeks now.. I've refilled some of them dozens of times and it's like the 'first' time every time for me... they do what they claim they do and more with a little modding. I just hope they never stop making them.
There's the challenge. There's a lot of people that are satisfied with these and you are one of them. As-is, the product hits your value point. It may be you got the luck of the draw and your order included 100% of the really well made ones. Or maybe your specific hardware or juice choices happen to work better than others.
On the other hand, I was sitting here yesterday evening with a multimeter, tools, and e2 autopsy all over my desk and swearing every other word thinking this stuff isn't rocket science and it ought to just work. Maybe also a little ...... about spending $30 shipped since I bought 10 of them; although I did know the background on these being a little sketchy so knew there was some risk. I have a handful of regular eGo mega cartos that are also barely adequate, if messy, but they work. And, as-is, these E2s are just worse. They work, just not that well IMO.
With all that said and a good night's rest, I will say that the fiddlyness and mess of the mega cartos I have been using is about balanced with the much less messy and slightly less performing (the ones I have, that is) E2. Now that I've figured out a few things to make them useable, I'll take the time to PTB the remaining 6 I have, fill them with PG juice, and try them again for out & about duty.
In the mean time I'll be watching to see the "good" R4s become more universally available and maybe try a box of those out. Mainly seeking something that just works right out of the package without modding.
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