Ebay now removing E cigs.

[BiscuitSlayer]

The govt is not controlling the current "vaporizers" that are used for "herb." They only care about ours because they contain the word "cigarette" otherwise they would not consider them a tobacco product.

Sorry for the double post, but some people don't like it when you edit your own posts. LOL

Government doesn't control the vaproizers used for herb because they are sold (in the US) for use with tobacco or vaporizing some other substance that is legal in the US. The same goes for water pipes (bongs) or pipes used to smoke herb.

If you go into a "head shop" to buy a water pipe, herb pipe, etc. then you can buy raw tobacco right there to smoke with your new device. If you mention "herb" to the employees, they will act stupid or they might act like they don't know what you are talking about or state that your language could be considered illegal. They claim that they can only sell the pipes for use with tobacco.

 

[Lithium1330]

They will fall into FDA we like it or not, eventually FDA will control tobacco products, the only reports we have are from Dr. Murray on the Ruyan products and it says very clear this are NOT a tobacco product:

2.2 Tobacco-specific nitrosamines
Rationale. Trace levels are found in all nicotine products extracted from tobacco; higher
levels suggest the presence of tobacco. Very low levels suggest the e-cigarette cartridge
liquid is tobacco free.
Method. Labstat method TWT-333. Determination of tobacco specific nitrosamines
(TSNAs) in whole tobacco, modified for the e-cartridges supplied, using LC-MS/MS.
Laboratory. Labstat International ULC, Kingston, Ontario, Canada.
Results. TSNAs, found only in tobacco, were not found in the Ruyan® e-cigarette
cartridge liquid except at trace quantity, at a very low level uncharacteristic of tobacco.

Comment. 1) Tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) were found, equal to 8 ng, in the 1
g of liquid of the 16 mg cartridge. This amount is extremely small, equal for example, to
the amount reported to be present in a nicotine medicinal patch. (8 ng in 1g = eight parts
per trillion).
2) These very small amounts traces are likely to be due to the fact that even medicinal
grade nicotine is extracted from tobacco.
3) The level in the 16 mg nicotine cartridge, for example, is 31 times the level in the 0 mg
cartridge.
On a daily dose basis, TSNAs in the 16 mg nicotine e-cartridge are 1200 times less than
in the tobacco of 20 manufactured cigarettes, and 3000 times less than the daily dose in a
can of Swedish moist snuff.
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Conclusion. The Ruyan® e-cigarette cartridge does not contain carcinogenic levels of
TSNAs, in that no product containing these trace levels has been shown to cause cancer.

There is another way out, clasiflicate the product as homeopatich product and get a FDA approval like this product did:

Smoke Free Choice

Registered with the FDA as a Homeopathic Complex Formula, NDC: 42638 3121 2

NICLite® is not a tobacco product as stated in 2005 by the Tobacco Tax Bureau (TTB) a division of the Department of Treasury of the United States of America.

Or repacle the nicotine with lobeline from Lobelia inflata - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[CssReb]

Hey ProStreet

Repost your items. Just don't use the word Nicotine. See if that helps.
If this is the first time they've taken your item out of circulation, don't be to concerned. If they remove it again they'll probably give you a warning and suspend your selling rights for 24 hours.

Example:
(flavor)
High(18mg/ml), Medium(14mg/ml), Low(11mg/ml), No(0mg/ml)

Don't mention Nicotine

 

[BiscuitSlayer]

They will fall into FDA we like it or not, eventually FDA will control tobacco products, the only reports we have are from Dr. Murray on the Ruyan products and it says very clear this are NOT a tobacco product:

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There is another way out, clasiflicate the product as homeopatich product and get a FDA approval like this product did:

Smoke Free Choice

Registered with the FDA as a Homeopathic Complex Formula, NDC: 42638 3121 2

Maybe. If it falls under the FDA, we are atleast screwed for X amount of time where x = some long period of time where we can't get any supplies in a legal manner.

Personally, I say if that day comes add a tad bit of tobacco leaf to each container containing liquid nicotine and call it a tobacco product. If the FDA controls tobacco some day, I think we are screwed no matter what.

 

[Lithium1330]

Well the X amount of time depends in how things get done, this guys are very sure they gonna get a FDA approval this year and they have done clinical studies just since last year, maybe they are just too confident or maybe they are doing things RIGHT:

Smoke-Break®

[FONT=Helvetica, Geneva, Arial, SunSans-Regular, sans-serif]Smoke-Break is a new smoke-cessation device currently undergoing FDA-allowed clinical studies. Smoke-Break resembles an unlit cigarette in size and shape. The clear tube contains a fruit-flavored gel, along with 1.5 mg of nicotine, about as much as in a light cigarette. Users consume the liquid by lifting the tube to their mouths and sipping through a mouthpiece, much like they would draw on a cigarette.

Smoke-Break has not yet been approved for retail sale. Please check back periodically for updates.[/FONT]

And I don't see BIG pharma or BIG tobacco kicking them or any antis group...

 

[BiscuitSlayer]

Well the X amount of time depends in how things get done, this guys are very sure they gonna get a FDA approval this year and they have done clinical studies just since last year, maybe they are just too confident or maybe they are doing things RIGHT:

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And I don't see BIG pharma or BIG tobacco kicking them or any antis group...

That is something completely different. SmokeBreak is being marketed and sold as a cessation method, not a smoking alternative. BIG pharma isn't going to say anything because they are the ones that are going to be pushing them. Big tobacco isn't going to say anything because they can't go to war with a company that sells cessation devices/methods.

It seems to me like you are comparing apples to oranges.

 

[Lithium1330]

I'm comparing doing things right (like them) or hidde in the bushes (like us), that is it.

 

[BiscuitSlayer]

I'm comparing doing things right (like them) or hidde in the bushes (like us), that is it.

Lithium -

You lost me man. I am not trying to be ugly or combative. Just trying to understand your reasoning.

 

[Taelon]

Just received an email that says my listing has been removed.


"you recently listed the following Fixed Price listing:

270331572358 - Electronic Cigarette DSE901 ULTIMATE Starter Kit
Unfortunately, we had to remove your listing because the following information violates our policy:
Because of various regulatory issues, cigarettes, cigars, and smokeless tobacco products are not allowed on eBay.

Thanks for your understanding.
Sincerely,
eBay Trust and Safety team

No tobacco product, misunderstanding by one of those agents (maybe member of hardcore-antismoker-guerilla), nobody is perfect. Still about 500 offers listet searching for "e-cigarette" in titles

 

[Monie]

Do a search for "nico*". You get nicoderm, nicorette, nico...whatever. How are they monitoring what age those purchasers are? If target can sell Njoy w/o verifing age, why can't you have an ebay listing? Ebay gets on my last nerve with their pulling listings. A few years ago I purchased a pr of waverunners from ebay. 2 yrs later I upgraded and re-listed the ones I purchased off ebay & my listing was pulled for violation.....same darn thing I bought from the site, they said I couldn't list. Good Luck!

 

[nitewriter]

Someone here agrees with me:

Mini E-Cigarette

 

[TropicalBob]

This is just so .. wrong. E-cigs are not a tobacco product to be banned. They are indeed personal vaporizers, but the world knows them as e-cigs. Still, I have bought many, many tobacco pipes from eBay sellers. And the intent of that is every bit as clear as the intent with an e-cig. And pipes ARE tobacco products. How come one but not the other?

Banning e-cigs makes no sense.

 

[katink]

Anyone bothered to send them information about what an e-cigarette is yet? And btw I wouldn't be surprised if an australian not-knowing-anything minister is at the root of this... she or he got onto ebay's back to try and stop e-cigarettes being put up for sale on the australian e-bay. No doubt the australian ebay went to talk with their 'head-honcho-ebay' what to do about what this minister was trying to get done.
It might be a good idea to try to head them off and give ebay better information then that clearly anti and not-knowing minister was airing?

 

[pillbox38]

Ebay were starting to remove my listings sporadically in October, i bit the bullet and left..I suspect like google its only a matter of time which is a shame.

 

[taz3cat]

There is e-liquid for sale on e-bay if you know who to look for. I just looked and found some. Don/t know what is going on. Porbably Jon stired up e-bay, thanks alot. Plenty of e-cig and carts in fact hundreds of them. Maybe all the cart sellers made e-bay not take anymoe e-liquid sellers. Hurt there high priced carts(dryed out) sells.

 

[Frankie]

I think they are starting to eliminate all the toys we love. I just received this:

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Dear frankie (frank@ste.in),

Thanks for bidding on the listing:

320327312903 - Mini E-cigarette Dse901 (black) + 5 carts free

Unfortunately, we had to remove this listing and cancel all bids. We don't like to remove listings -- it's disappointing for everyone -- but sometimes we need to do it.

There are three main reasons why we remove listings:
-- The listing doesn't follow eBay guidelines.
-- The item isn't allowed on eBay or can only be listed under certain conditions.
-- The listing contains pictures or words that may create copyright or trademark issues.

If the seller is able to fix the problem and relist the item, we hope you'll bid on it again.

Sometimes, instead of relisting an item, a seller will suggest that you buy it directly from him or her, off eBay. If that happens, please don't accept. If anything goes wrong with the purchase, we won't be able to help you.

-- If you have questions --
Due to concerns about member privacy, we can't share any details about why the listing was removed, but we'd be glad to answer any other questions you might have. Here's the best way to contact us:
1. Click "Help" at the top of most eBay pages. You may need to sign in.
2. Click "Contact Us."
You'll be asked to describe what's going on, and we'll suggest the best way to get in touch.

We're really sorry about the inconvenience.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust and Safety team


Please don't reply to this message. It was sent from an address that doesn't accept incoming email.
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That was just a cig, not a juice...

This means no more cheap sexy black 901s for $30 from the Chinese and better income for the resellers who offer them for $60, grrr.

 

[tr1age]

Ebay, paypal, all these companies unfortunately are all out to save their own ... while cashing in on our money with the least amount of accontability toward them.

So when you see them remove something. It is not the "end of the world" warnings as you may think.

When websites start to get cease and desist notices for selling e cigarettes, then worry. But come on they still sell steroids online and that is illegal

I'm not too worried, non the less interesting to hear. However these posts may not have been posted had there not been a "scare" going on.

Just remember our voices hold more water than we think sometimes, and falling victim to a scare gives whoever wants to jump on and ride it to the ground more footing.

 

[CssReb]

Last year I was successfully selling mycokerewards codes for almost 6 months when out of nowhere they sent me this email:

You recently listed the following auction-style listing:

200255686197 - 1000 Coke Bottle caps


The auction-style listing was removed because it violated the eBay Lottery Tickets policy. We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled.

Sales of lottery tickets are heavily regulated, and the laws about lottery tickets vary widely. For these reasons, listings for lottery tickets are not permitted on eBay.

 

[booboo]

If your purchase was from Heaven's Gifts, I wouldn't worry about it. (I got the same email last week after I paid, and the product still arrived as normal, it just wasn't listed in MYEBAY any more). I have purchased from them over 10 times with no problems, and they replace any battery or atomizer that dies. Only negative is time...It takes about 15 days per order, so shipping back and forth and waiting to return things is not instant. But based on price, service and quality, it is worth the wait. Just stock up and reorder often so you don't run out. This is the best deal, cigarette, company I have found on Ebay and the whole internet and I heartily recommend them. If anyone knows a cheaper USA company with 901's, let me know!

 

[paulhampson]

Seems to be just you

e-cigarette, Health Beauty, Electronics items on eBay.com
e-cigarette, Health Beauty, Consumer Electronics, Collectables items at low prices on eBay.co.uk

I think you should contact them and find out why you were singled out. Did you use cigarette or tobacco in your keywords?