From time to time I think it is good to let people see behind the scenes when there is a controversy going in the forum, so I decided to post my response to this "anonymous" complaint in the open forum. I quoted anonymous because I know who made the complaint based on the wording and watching the events of the last 24 hours or so.
We censored it because:
1. The person has been banned from here for ages and we do not care to be associated with him or his business. We don't always stop discussion of banned or unregistered suppliers because we want people to talk openly about good and bad suppliers, we just don't want their spam...
2. We don't want Google searches for this person to come up on ECF. This decision was made for a variety of reasons, most of which have to do with the fact that ECF has a right to choose what content is allowed on our forum and who "benefits" from our Google presence.
Even if we did care to be associated with him we will not be party to attacks on someones business or reputation based on unrelated "facts". If we had information that he was for example selling counterfeit merchandise or selling 240mg/ml nicotine as 24mg/ml nicotine we would certainly be shouting it loud and clear for the community to hear (well, actually SEE). Does the fact that Sir Elton John is gay make him a bad musician, or that George Washington owned slaves make him a inconsequential President? Perhaps the fact that Andrew Luster is a convicted ...... should be a reason for women not to buy Max Factor Cosmetics and for everyone to boycott Proctor and Gamble.
We believe that completely unregulated brain dumps ( and the resulting chaos and dilution of content and search results ) adversely affect our goal of being a work safe and family friendly source of information for both the new and the experienced vaper.
We will continue to do what we feel is in ECFs best interest and what we feel best supports the community and the general "cause". Our polices are what they are -- if you don't like them, there are always other alternative venues you may like:
nu-vapor
Vapers Forum
Or perhaps you could start your own forum?
then please continue. We hear these complaints all the time from the vocal minority of the forum users that do not understand that ECF has to pay the bills in order that you can use this free forum. The supplier restrictions are in place to keep the forum from being flooded with spam and completely burying useful content. Oh and please, do your research its not $100 a month, but if you would like to pay ECF 100 a month for a subforum of your own that people can fill with negative posts about you whether they be true or not, I'll set up a special subscription just for you
We censored it because:
1. The person has been banned from here for ages and we do not care to be associated with him or his business. We don't always stop discussion of banned or unregistered suppliers because we want people to talk openly about good and bad suppliers, we just don't want their spam...
2. We don't want Google searches for this person to come up on ECF. This decision was made for a variety of reasons, most of which have to do with the fact that ECF has a right to choose what content is allowed on our forum and who "benefits" from our Google presence.
Even if we did care to be associated with him we will not be party to attacks on someones business or reputation based on unrelated "facts". If we had information that he was for example selling counterfeit merchandise or selling 240mg/ml nicotine as 24mg/ml nicotine we would certainly be shouting it loud and clear for the community to hear (well, actually SEE). Does the fact that Sir Elton John is gay make him a bad musician, or that George Washington owned slaves make him a inconsequential President? Perhaps the fact that Andrew Luster is a convicted ...... should be a reason for women not to buy Max Factor Cosmetics and for everyone to boycott Proctor and Gamble.
We believe that completely unregulated brain dumps ( and the resulting chaos and dilution of content and search results ) adversely affect our goal of being a work safe and family friendly source of information for both the new and the experienced vaper.
We will continue to do what we feel is in ECFs best interest and what we feel best supports the community and the general "cause". Our polices are what they are -- if you don't like them, there are always other alternative venues you may like:
nu-vapor
Vapers Forum
Or perhaps you could start your own forum?
I went to another forum just to see what it was like compared to ecf and it was like they let the crazy vapers have their own website. (No offense intended)
