maybe eventually I wouldnt mind if they looked less like cigarettes, but in the beginning its gotta be something that works good enough to make me not WANT a regular cigarette. and the post below, I don thave to worry about smoking sections since none exist anymore, not even in bars where i live. Its anti tobacco, anti cigarettes.
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Well there is a whole thread about people that aren't satisified by the ecig and reasons they think are the cause. I personally don't think the ecig alone would work for me either but combined with snus I an a happy camper and don't miss cigs. The thread is call so are we getting it or not ...nicoteen?
Should there be improvements to ENI you bet. Would long lasting batts that were small and hi voltage be great most definetly. This industry is in its infancy and if it is not banned I'm sure we will see all kinds of improvements but for now it is what it is.
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That makes you different how?
A lot of people have struggled trying to find the right combination of equipment liquid flavor and strength. Take your time. If the 510 doesn't work, try an 801 penstyle with a battery mod. Change your juice strength maybe it's not strong enough or too strong. Maybe it's too sweet or not sweet enough. W(ho)TF knows?
For me the 510 with 555 at 18mg worked. I now have a penstyle (801) with a long life battery and it's great too.
Be patient. We're all different. If you want to give up tobacco, you'll keep trying as money and time allows you to.
BTW: Do you play WOW? I've seen that name on the server I play on....
I successfully "quit" cigarettes, my wife has not. She still smokes about 10 per week.
She smokes behind me while on her computer and I have no desire to light one up.
She thinks e-cigs don't provide enough nic, so we're testing different brands of VPs and types/flavors of liquids.
But, (and this is probably the important difference) I've been ready to quit regulars for a LONG time now and every time I've tried to quit while the wife kept smoking, failed... until I tried a pv.
Until now, it was like trying to give up ....... while living in a crack house
For me, the pv's are doing the trick in a vastly superior way than the patch, gum, or anything else has.
Will I be vaping forever now? dunno, but I can guarantee, if my wife continues to smoke, I'll continue to vape.
She smokes behind me while on her computer and I have no desire to light one up.
She thinks e-cigs don't provide enough nic, so we're testing different brands of VPs and types/flavors of liquids.
But, (and this is probably the important difference) I've been ready to quit regulars for a LONG time now and every time I've tried to quit while the wife kept smoking, failed... until I tried a pv.
Until now, it was like trying to give up ....... while living in a crack house
For me, the pv's are doing the trick in a vastly superior way than the patch, gum, or anything else has.
Will I be vaping forever now? dunno, but I can guarantee, if my wife continues to smoke, I'll continue to vape.
just a thought, but perhaps if you are using a device that closely resembles an analog, and you are using liquid/carts that taste similar to analogs, maybe the reason you are dissatisfied is because you are being reminded of analogs and how your e-cig is 'close, but no cigar'
for me I started with a penstyle, and 901 lasermod and some non-tobacco flavors. the more alien it was compared to cigs the more intrigued I was and was eager to just forget about analogs altogether. I don't own and won't buy a white tube/red led ecig that looks like an analog.
I've been analog free for 105 days, now. When I first got my e-cig, yes ... It was with the hope of quitting smoking. But I didn't push or rush it. Here's how I did it ...
For the first 2 weeks, I used both. Every time I lit a cigarette, I followed it with a brief vaping session. I did this for about a week. During this time, I was learning how to vape, how to fill carts, just figuring it out in general.
By the second week, I was smoking & vaping simultaneously. I'd take a hit from the analog & then immediately would hit the PV. What this did was allow me to better associate vaping with the fulfillment of a cigarette.
By the end of 2 weeks, I had the hang of my e-cig & had found a flavor I liked to vape. But more importantly, I had that needed association. And I somehow instinctively knew I was ready stop smoking.
I spent the next couple of weeks with an open pack of cigarettes in my possession at all times. When the urge to smoke hit, I pulled out the PV and CHOSE not to smoke. And yes, there were a couple of time I tried an analog, but found it incredibly nasty. I eventually gave away what I had left in my pack of cigs.
And that was 15 weeks ago. (I smoked 2-3 packs per day for over 30 years). Admittedly, there was a particularly stressful day at work and I thought I had to have a cigarette. So I stopped and bought a pack. Lit one & immediately threw it out the window. That was about 8 weeks ago. That pack is still in the glove box of my car with 18 cigarettes in it.
I never thought I'd be able to quit. But now, I don't think I could ever go back. So yes, it is possible.
For the first 2 weeks, I used both. Every time I lit a cigarette, I followed it with a brief vaping session. I did this for about a week. During this time, I was learning how to vape, how to fill carts, just figuring it out in general.
By the second week, I was smoking & vaping simultaneously. I'd take a hit from the analog & then immediately would hit the PV. What this did was allow me to better associate vaping with the fulfillment of a cigarette.
By the end of 2 weeks, I had the hang of my e-cig & had found a flavor I liked to vape. But more importantly, I had that needed association. And I somehow instinctively knew I was ready stop smoking.
I spent the next couple of weeks with an open pack of cigarettes in my possession at all times. When the urge to smoke hit, I pulled out the PV and CHOSE not to smoke. And yes, there were a couple of time I tried an analog, but found it incredibly nasty. I eventually gave away what I had left in my pack of cigs.
And that was 15 weeks ago. (I smoked 2-3 packs per day for over 30 years). Admittedly, there was a particularly stressful day at work and I thought I had to have a cigarette. So I stopped and bought a pack. Lit one & immediately threw it out the window. That was about 8 weeks ago. That pack is still in the glove box of my car with 18 cigarettes in it.
I never thought I'd be able to quit. But now, I don't think I could ever go back. So yes, it is possible.
K. PM me an address and I'll mail you a couple of batts, a charger, and an atty for a 510. I liked the 510 so much I bought a Chuck. Realistically, I found it took me a month of using a 510 to switch from analogs to vaping.
Gotta make sure you're getting enough nicotine, tho. I'll send a few ml's of 36 with it for you to try.
If ya don't like it, pass it to someone else; they might. Personally, I'm saving money all in all by vapin' rather than smoking. Once I was off analogs for 2 weeks, I hit one, and I was just disgusted with the 'film' it left in my mouth, (I can't imagine now what 38 years of pack-a-day did to my lungs, although I'm one of those odd ducks that can run for 3 hours without stopping) but I'm sure I'd be better off still had I not smoked. Once you make it a few weeks off analogs, my hunch is you wouldn't go back. I never 'dis' smokers, but man, now that I'm off almost 6 months, I can smell 'em coming a mile away- I am embarassed for smelling like that for so long... sheesh.
I gave away a 510 to my dental assistant who was a 3 pack a day smoker. She was so moved by the gift, she quit smoking that day and never went back. Not only that, she likes it, and is saving a crapload of money.
If ya want, I'll mail it to ya- lemme know. Long haul, you'll like it more and it will cost you less-- even if you bought a 510 kit (new, you can get em for about 35 bux I think)- later, you'll probably get a mod because the battery life does get frustrating.
All my old hardware, and I got a bunch of it sitting here, has still cost me less than smoking- and I got 3 other folks, total, completely off cigs besides. That cost me a few bux- but dang-be doodle, maybe I've saved 3 other lives so far from disability or death... I'm pretty convinced its gonna save my .... somewhere down the road from where I would have been if I hadn't found vaping.
Ok; off the soapbox.
Steve
Also, I was just checking another part of the forum if you need a lower cost try it out option; madvapes.com has a 510 starter kit; they include (pasted from site)
Kit Includes:
1 Atomizer
1 Automatic Battery
2 Cartridges (Marlboro, high)
USB Battery Charger
Instruction Card
Attractively packaged
They priced it at 16.95 with 5.95 shipping. I bet there are more great deals out there right now too, if you want stuff to try- that kit would set you back 4 packs of smokes, and if you order a nice high nic eliquid with it, it probably pay for itself in a week, easy.
I'm not tryin to pound the issue, just hoping to find a good suggestion for a way in that won't bust the budget- which analogs surely do. My wife and I were both pack a day; so about 4-5 cartons a month- at 55 a carton, thats 200-250 bux a month!
Kit Includes:
1 Atomizer
1 Automatic Battery
2 Cartridges (Marlboro, high)
USB Battery Charger
Instruction Card
Attractively packaged
They priced it at 16.95 with 5.95 shipping. I bet there are more great deals out there right now too, if you want stuff to try- that kit would set you back 4 packs of smokes, and if you order a nice high nic eliquid with it, it probably pay for itself in a week, easy.
I'm not tryin to pound the issue, just hoping to find a good suggestion for a way in that won't bust the budget- which analogs surely do. My wife and I were both pack a day; so about 4-5 cartons a month- at 55 a carton, thats 200-250 bux a month!
Now that I own a 510, I feel like I can say anybody trying out a 510 with 1 battery is going to be very, very disappointed and most would probably run from e cigs in a hurry (well, they would run 20 feet, then stop to light a cigarette). I have 4 batts and a passthrough, I need 3 of those batts to rotate while still using the passthrough.
Other than batt life, I'm still getting used to it and learning it, but so far I'm really liking my 510. It's at least loads and loads better than my joye 306!
Yeah, I have to agree with some of the other people. I don't intend on quitting. I just don't want to use "traditional" cigarettes.
you guys are truly great. Its great to see how much support there is on this forum, and how people are willing to answer questions, give advice and even help out. I thank everyone for their responses, greatly appreciated.
and steve, I will PM you to ask you about your prices, thank you very much for the offer and the information. Great stuff.!
regards
and steve, I will PM you to ask you about your prices, thank you very much for the offer and the information. Great stuff.!
regards
As a darn near chain smoker for 30 years (1.5 packs/RYO a day) I discovered my DSE901 when at it's best could satisfy my desire for a 'smoke'. It was rarely at it's best.
Next purchase was a 'passthru' with every puff a great one. Thought about carrying the world's largest battery pack - my laptop - to insure vaping satisfaction.
Still smoking about 2or 3 analogs a day I decided I had to make a decision. Was I going to give this 'every opportunity to work'.... as in quit smoking completely?
I had the opportunity to try out a Screwdriver, Prodigy, Janty Stick and an 801. I Discovered that the Screwdriver at 3.7v and consistant 'would do it'.... as in give me the amt of vapor without the ridiculous 'looks like a ciggie' battery that often only put out a wisp of vapor when driving or while outdoors. Those bats are ok for some - but didn't give full power and the desire for a .... log persisted.
The rechargeable regular bats in mods perform ..... and keep on performing.
I don't vape to 'look like I'm smoking' or even give the impression I'm smoking....
I want the vape.... just like being able to put flame to a tobacco cig and voila - puff away.
I traded an SD for a Prodigy..... I was about 2.5 months into vaping and when it arrived was overwhelmed with the amt of vape and fact that suddenly even flaves I hadn't enjoyed at 3.7 were now 'good'.
Dropped to 1/2 a cig morning and 1/2 a cig at night.
Clutched the prodigy as if it were a life preserver in heavy seas.
You see I was diagnosed 'pre-COPD' last May... at 51. Wanna die soon? Wanna carry around an oxygen bottle? Wanna cough your lungs every morning while bracing on hands and knees to keep from breaking a rib or throwing your back out?
My last puff on an .... log was the first part of October. I begged a friend for a puff and he watched as I coughed so hard I almost threw up. The taste was filthy - my head spinning and everything from the waist up hurt.
So - why don't others quit smoking with a Smoking everywhere or looks like a ciggie?
I Don't know. But I can say that with the absolute desire to shift to vaping - and the absolute attitude that it was results, consistancy, vapor production and NO MORE tobacco cig poisons - burning - tar - addictive crap in cigs.....NOT what the delivery method looked like as my top priority - I now couldn't smoke a cigarette if I had to.
And my lungs are completely healthy - breathing totally normal - the cold I had 2 weeks ago lasted 3 days - not 6 weeks of bronchitis, ear infection, asthma, sinus infection that every cold in the last 4 years has included.
YES!
Thank the modders for their inventions! I'm also thrilled that should our government decide to regulate e-cigs.....
I have a personal vaporizer that can't be confused with any kind of cigarette.
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The cardiac/respiratory therapist I introduced to my SD was THRILLED -
NO SMOKE - and the problem with ciggies is the SMOKE - not the nicotine
Next purchase was a 'passthru' with every puff a great one. Thought about carrying the world's largest battery pack - my laptop - to insure vaping satisfaction.
Still smoking about 2or 3 analogs a day I decided I had to make a decision. Was I going to give this 'every opportunity to work'.... as in quit smoking completely?
I had the opportunity to try out a Screwdriver, Prodigy, Janty Stick and an 801. I Discovered that the Screwdriver at 3.7v and consistant 'would do it'.... as in give me the amt of vapor without the ridiculous 'looks like a ciggie' battery that often only put out a wisp of vapor when driving or while outdoors. Those bats are ok for some - but didn't give full power and the desire for a .... log persisted.
The rechargeable regular bats in mods perform ..... and keep on performing.
I don't vape to 'look like I'm smoking' or even give the impression I'm smoking....
I want the vape.... just like being able to put flame to a tobacco cig and voila - puff away.
I traded an SD for a Prodigy..... I was about 2.5 months into vaping and when it arrived was overwhelmed with the amt of vape and fact that suddenly even flaves I hadn't enjoyed at 3.7 were now 'good'.
Dropped to 1/2 a cig morning and 1/2 a cig at night.
Clutched the prodigy as if it were a life preserver in heavy seas.
You see I was diagnosed 'pre-COPD' last May... at 51. Wanna die soon? Wanna carry around an oxygen bottle? Wanna cough your lungs every morning while bracing on hands and knees to keep from breaking a rib or throwing your back out?
My last puff on an .... log was the first part of October. I begged a friend for a puff and he watched as I coughed so hard I almost threw up. The taste was filthy - my head spinning and everything from the waist up hurt.
So - why don't others quit smoking with a Smoking everywhere or looks like a ciggie?
I Don't know. But I can say that with the absolute desire to shift to vaping - and the absolute attitude that it was results, consistancy, vapor production and NO MORE tobacco cig poisons - burning - tar - addictive crap in cigs.....NOT what the delivery method looked like as my top priority - I now couldn't smoke a cigarette if I had to.
And my lungs are completely healthy - breathing totally normal - the cold I had 2 weeks ago lasted 3 days - not 6 weeks of bronchitis, ear infection, asthma, sinus infection that every cold in the last 4 years has included.
YES!
Thank the modders for their inventions! I'm also thrilled that should our government decide to regulate e-cigs.....
I have a personal vaporizer that can't be confused with any kind of cigarette.
BTW-
The cardiac/respiratory therapist I introduced to my SD was THRILLED -
NO SMOKE - and the problem with ciggies is the SMOKE - not the nicotine
Thank you for sharing your story. It makes sense and a I understand now. I am glad that you are getting positive results and your health is improving with e-cigs. That is great info for all of us to know. Even though we think or believe e-cigs are much safer than cigarettes, there are still a lot of unknowns because the technology is relatively new still. So good outcomes like yours is important for us all. We are really the lab rats of this new technology.
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I've read somewhere that the nicotine addiction itself goes away within weeks. The SMOKING addiction is far more than the nicotine addiction. Nicotine replacement therapy helps in stopping smoking because it's an extra 'hit' to get you through the worst urges.
Success at giving up cigarettes is very low - something under 20% I think. I'm a multiple-quitter myself. If you've ever sought support in a 'quit smokng' online group you'll find some people who have been smokfree for years, a slightly larger group who've quit for 6 months or more and a vast majority who are still 'newbies'. A lot return to smoking. They stop participating rather than post "Well, I started again".
For THIS forum most people join to learn things, and many don't ever post. People who DO post a lot may 'disappear' later. Is that because they've learned enough and moved on to online fora that suit other interests, or does it mean they've given up on ecigs?
In real life, I know less than a dozen people who are active smokers who succeeded in giving up cigarettes and far more who faled. Here on this forum I see a lot of us have smoke-free banners. But I see very few posts from people who talk about reducing their nicotine levels. But I DO see a moderator who now rarely vapes, and then it's 0 nic.
I started e-smoking as a way to save money. It's worked well for me, giving a new habit that's more satisfying. I have a lot of ejuice on hand because I like a lot of flavors. I'm intentionally woriking my way through my inventory so that I can start cutting them with VG and 'blendable' flavors at lower nic levels. So I may get to 0 nic or even to 'I sometimes vape' status.
I to was under the impression that this was more of a quit smoking aid..at first.
Vaping keeps me from smoking analogs when I drink and when my band practices (usually.. I may still bum an analog once in a bluemoon, but that's it!). If i vape for the rest of my life and never smoke another analog so be it. I like the nicotine, I like the flavors and... let's face it.. it looks cool when you're out at a bar and no one else can "smoke" but you can.
Vaping isn't a "healthy" alternative, but it is better than smoking and not nearly as detrimental to your overall health.
PV's "can" be used as quit smoking aid but I'd rather call them a way to get the feeling of smoking without endangering anyone around you with second hand smoke.
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Vaping keeps me from smoking analogs when I drink and when my band practices (usually.. I may still bum an analog once in a bluemoon, but that's it!). If i vape for the rest of my life and never smoke another analog so be it. I like the nicotine, I like the flavors and... let's face it.. it looks cool when you're out at a bar and no one else can "smoke" but you can.
Vaping isn't a "healthy" alternative, but it is better than smoking and not nearly as detrimental to your overall health.
PV's "can" be used as quit smoking aid but I'd rather call them a way to get the feeling of smoking without endangering anyone around you with second hand smoke.
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Patches helped me, but I always missed the throat hit.
Now I get the throat hit.
All I have to do is slowly lower the nic level im vaping.
Happy days!
MT
Now I get the throat hit.
All I have to do is slowly lower the nic level im vaping.
Happy days!
MT
I don't plan on quitting anytime soon. I also never planned on getting an HV device, and thought they were sort of silly, awkward contraptions. But here I am months later looking to purchase my first HV PV. Go figure.
The very first time I heard of "electronic cigarettes" my first thought was "silly gimmick".
I decided to research them a few month's later out of interest as I was talking to somebody about them and realised that I really didn't know what they were or what they were supposed to be...and here I am now after finding this site...a loyal vaper!
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I decided to research them a few month's later out of interest as I was talking to somebody about them and realised that I really didn't know what they were or what they were supposed to be...and here I am now after finding this site...a loyal vaper!
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I DID cease to smoke. I inhale nicotine vapor. .They DID work for me as a "smoking cessation" device. I would love a longer lasting small battery as well (does NOT need to look like a cigg for ME) but I am glad there are so many choices for devices in the vaping world... they ALL have their place! Ain't it wonderful we're alike in so many ways yet so very different?
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