Edition 2 Cartomizers

[oettinger]

You mean with the Wow, or the Premium? Wow and Premium and very different, I don't think I can even combine the two.

I mean just the NORMAL PG juice. The discussion is about whether the V4L juice has something to do with the Cartos not wicking correctly.

The conversation was that V4L juice was the problem, but the "normal" V4L juice is the same that Royal Smokers uses.

It was not intended to mean that the WOW juice was not different. The Premium juice is Dakang juice.

 

[maxx]

So it's official? The CE2 is junk? Even with a bumper?

 

[dohsma]

So it's official? The CE2 is junk? Even with a bumper?

LOL... seriously LOL maxx. I tried these with every juice and voltage I had at my disposable and they were still junk. I have heard that they are revising these AGAIN, but I'm guessing the performance will be similar.

 

[maxx]

I think it was a good move to pass on these...

To me...the best carto was/is first-gen premium (hard tops). I hope V4L plans to keep the hard top premos?

 

[v1John]

[oops sorry; moved it]

 

[SMILIN]

Not questioning but showing how Microcig does business ;-) I told them the same and they think I don't know how to use them.

Mircocig is owned by Royal Smokers.......

I had very hard time dealing with owner, as he stated these were perfect, and told me take it, or leave it, cause I was stopping him from selling to th, as e world. Funny, I signed non disclosure, and he put em on his websites

Then he lies about me as well.

Go figure.

V4L will NEVER do biz that way, when we say we will do something, we do it, period, ahmen

Steve

 

[K24A3]

I think it was a good move to pass on these...

To me...the best carto was/is first-gen premium (hard tops). I hope V4L plans to keep the hard top premos?

Hard Top Premiums, but with the silicon soft top I hope

Those hard tops (caps) are a headache.

 

[Kobudo]

Apparently the first 510 versions can be "tweaked" to work well with even thick liquids. I would really like to see these ZFM-like cartos working well out of the box, and apparently the company is on a second or third revision. The plastic filler needle looks spiffy as well. To have 5ml of vapable liquid (i.e., no wasted liquid just to keep filler from burning) loaded in my pocket to last me through the day... As long as they can be cleaned and re-used like normal cartos, I'd be quite happy.

 

[jsaveker]

As I reported ealier I have been using the EC2 510's for over a week now on an Ego bat and been very pleased.

Yesterday I picked up a 18650 3.7 cell from Cloud9Vaping and jeeeeez this thing is better than 6v on a 901 or 510.... I have broken the top cap and middle caps off and just dripping in to the coil.... it has such amazing throat hit and the vapor is nice and warm...

Whilst people have had mixed results from these things (not myself) I can see even in a worst case it gotta be cheaper than atty's.

Just my $0.02

 

[keveck]

I got 15 of them today.

My first impression - oh, this is good!
My second impression - oh this is ok.
My third impression - what the crap did I just inhale?!

But yes, they work well as attys with drip reservoirs. That's about it. These are more like E2 KR808 attys.

 

[K24A3]

I got some Edition 2 KR808 carto's today, they are absolutely terrible

I don't know if they are the original style or the new ones, they have two holes, a silicon cap, and the plate with the holes comes out easily. If they are indeed the new ones, they have a long way to go..

I tried:

*Filling them up completely, and filling them up half way.
*KR808D-1 Battery and a lower voltage (about 3.3v-3.4v) 901 Battery.
*Soaking the wick with juice before vaping, letting it wick itself before vaping.
*Tried V4L juice, and other thinner juice (PG)


The first 'little' puff is usually ok, but all following puffs taste awful.
They give off a strong chemical burning taste, even after I let it sit for 10 minutes. Plus, my puffs are only half a second long

I don't blame the guys at V4L at all for rejecting these things, the CE1 carto's are 100 times better at this point of time. What a waste of money..

 

[Ragamuffin]

I tried one recently as well. I give it a thumbs down. It has a terrible plastic taste to it.

There is a whole thread in the general discussion section on how to modify these, and people arguing about how great they can be with just some little modifications. And they apply this logic to three different versions of this cartomizer.

My thought is: if I have to modify a cartomizer, I don't want it. It's supposed to be trouble-free, easy to use, and save me time. That's why I would buy a cartomizer. Not one I have to do something with to make it acceptable. And the company that is selling these doesn't divulge this, they tried to hide the fact that there was anything wrong with them , and still take your money. That's a load of BS. They aren't trying to help us out by modifying it themselves, they are trying to make more money with a few silly changes, all of which still needed modifying.

It sucks and should be tossed, and start over. When they get it right, and a reputable company is satisfied enough to stock it, I'll buy it.

 

[badkolo]

just wanted to let you know that the issues seem to be ironed out and everyone who has them now other then navathian is testing older revisions of the e2.

the chemical tastes you are referring too could be either the coil being wrapped to tight causing it to dry out to fast as you drag , this has been fixed on the newest revision.

the other possibility is the glue that is used to hold the inner cap to the cup is melting as you drag into the juice and causing that taste, that can be tested by emptying any juice out and soaking it in hot water for 5 minutes then rinsing it clean and giving it a dry burn without the inner cap in it.

There where issues with the first few revisions and they have addressed all of these including the glue issue. They also have changed the inner cup form plastic to cermaic and they have loosened the coils around the wick and they have widened the slits where the wick meets the cup.

the ones that work properly blow away any cartomizer on the market today.
but i fully understand that you guys might have a bad experience with some since these first few batches where more of a beta and should have been sold that way and wherent. I would wait a few weeks until we recieve the latest revision with the latest fixes.

In no way do i condone them selling a unfinished product, But these are the next big thing and needed issues ironed out and hopefully with the ecf community sticking this out in a few short weeks everyone will be happy with the results.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

They also have changed the inner cup form plastic to cermaic

under what authority is this known to be fact?

 

[badkolo]

under what authority is this known to be fact?

aileen and martinez SENT out emails that orders have been stopped for shipping, they will be delayed because they will only ship out the new ones with the newest fixes and ceramics.

others have received this as well. jUST GOING BY WHAT WAS EMAILED.

 

[maxx]

I still can't figure out why we needed a new carto which undoubtedly will be more expensive and require a hypodermic to fill. I can already see our enemies latching onto that hypodermic thing and making all kinds of false claims. Gee...lets come up with a carto that requires melting the nic in a bent spoon and really give em' something....eh?

Been vaping for 6 months and bought hundreds of cartos....blank and pre-filled. Not one has failed or burned under normal use.

 

[v1John]

I still can't figure out why we needed a new carto which undoubtedly will be more expensive and require a hypodermic to fill. ....

What makes you say they will be more expensive and will require a needle though? They are neither.

 

[maxx]

What makes you say they will be more expensive and will require a needle though? They are neither.

Instructions on the page show hypos.....here...

RoyalSmokers electronic cigarette factory in Shenzhen

As for price....

Premiums were more expensive than the standards....and these are complete redesign. I think it is fair to say, special deals not included, they will be more. I guess we will find out once they are widespread amongst the vendors.

 

[v1John]

Instructions on the page show hypos.....here...

RoyalSmokers electronic cigarette factory in Shenzhen

As for price....

Premiums were more expensive than the standards....and these are complete redesign. I think it is fair to say, special deals not included, they will be more. I guess we will find out once they are widespread amongst the vendors.

Maxx, the instructions in fact state that they are palstic microtubes (they are not needles and much less hypodermic), and I have already got myself some for less than $6.00 a 5-pack delivered with express mail.

At less than $6.00 a 5-pack delivered, you really don't even need to refill them them, just grab the next one.

 

[Jeff78]

Maxx, the instructions in fact state that they are palstic microtubes (they are not needles and much less hypodermic), and I have already got myself some for less than $6.00 a 5-pack delivered with express mail.

At less than $6.00 a 5-pack delivered, you really don't even need to refill them them, just grab the next one.

How many did you have to buy to get to less then $6.00 a pack?