Effects of Vaping vs. Effects of dip and cigarettes

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chauncy

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Hello, have been using ecigs for over a year now, but has been 6 months or so since my last real cig or dip. I used to smoke around 10-15 reg cigs per day and sometimes dip 3-4 times a week.

Here is my question:

When I used to get up in the morning and smoke my first reg cig, I would get the head rush and the chills - which was totally normal and totally reliable. I used to get this same feeling (but slightly different) if I chose to dip that morning instead of smoke. Clammy hands, head swimming, etc., pretty much the same feeling everyone reports from cigs.

Now that I ONLY vap (ABSOLUTELY NO CHEATING WITH REG CIGS OR DIP) for the last few months, I have begin to notice that the physical side effects of ecigs seem a little bit worse or unusual than traditional tobacco.

For instance, when I vape in the morning, I really don't feel much of anything in the way of a head rush like a normal cig. I am using 2.4 level juice (fairly high), sometimes dilluted with 1.2 (so probably 1.8 on average). I vape throughout the day in my office; no one cares. I never get clammy hands or that lightheaded feeling that I used to get from cigarettes. However, after a typical day of vaping, by night time I feel pretty spaced out...sometimes I get jumpy, nervous, and my heart beat feels wierd. I feel like a heaviness in my lungs, but rarely cough. It is wierd. I am using liquid from Good Prophets which I think is mainly VG.

Sometimes the twitchy moods become a little bit more odd...like if I am playing my guitar I am full of giddy nervous energy and it seems hard to play right or think 100% straight. Sometimes I get stupid song ideas stuck in my head and I can play with giddy sloppy intensity for quite a long time. But in general it is not a GOOD feeling, just a mildly unpleasant feeling. Sometimes it resolves in giddy unfocused thoughts and silly word associations. It is like a drug high only stupid feeling.

Some have suggested that maybe I am using too high a nic. concentration. How could I tell? Has anyone else felt this way?

Why doesn't vaping with the stronger nic levels make you feel like you smoked a cig? Isn't that the feeling that we are all after (sort of) anyway? The "first cig of the day" feeling? I have never gotten that from Ecigs, just spaced out and gittery. Thanks.
 

milo hobo

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Okay, so vaping is differnt from smoking. Vaping allows nicotine to cross the mucous membranes slowly, whereas smoking allows a more rapid gas exchange. Furthermore, dipping and smoking allow whole tobacco alkalines (WTA's) to enter your system, when vaping only provides nicotine. The slower entry of nicotine into your system decreases that jolt of nicotine you would find with smoking. The WTA also intensify this jolt, while also increasing the addictiveness of nicotine.

Here is my premise, you do not get that jolt of nicotine with the WTA or speedy gas exchange with your PV. So, you inadvertently chain vape your way into a mild nicotine OD. My premise does not include an explanation for your heaviness in your chest, so that might be the flavoring of your juice, but I don't know. It could also be the need to drink more water, which might reduce the effects of a nicotine OD too, but read below.

I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. I hope you figure it out, but don't hesitate to see a doctor.
 

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I get the rapid heartbeat sometimes and when I finally go to lay down and try to fall a sleep, I also stay up later and dont feel as tired as when I use to smoke when I go to bed at night, sometimes feel a little jittery. I just assume these are the side effects of chain vaping Nic all day, but these side effects I will take over the ones the stinky Ciggz use to give me and the possible long term effects from the stinkies are known to cause XYZ plus I'm not getting the 5000 carcinogens I use to be getting. I also can make it without the WTA's and I like that. So to me the traade offs are worth it.
 
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