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I'd like to see a small clearo that I can recommend to newbies. I didn't care for the Nano and I can't recommend CE3s that have to be filled with a syringe. Maybe a small top coil like the Kanger T4 or M3.

For myself, I'd like to see a T3S. It seems to work a lot better than the original T3 and the coils are a lot cheaper. Of course, I don't see myself using S.I. products full time again until they get some kind of battery charge level indicator in their X2s. I hate not having any idea how much charge is left in a battery.

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I'd like to see a small clearo that I can recommend to newbies. I didn't care for the Nano and I can't recommend CE3s that have to be filled with a syringe. Maybe a small top coil like the Kanger T4 or M3.

For myself, I'd like to see a T3S. It seems to work a lot better than the original T3 and the coils are a lot cheaper. Of course, I don't see myself using S.I. products full time again until they get some kind of battery charge level indicator in their X2s. I hate not having any idea how much charge is left in a battery.

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I would love if they started carrying a version of the T4. That is what the V2 Liquimax is. By far my favorite small clearo. I have some that have been in use for several months and are still going strong. Nano was junk. CE3 too much of a PITA to fill and they leak. The esmarts are nice but they don't last very long at all.
 

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I would love if they started carrying a version of the T4. That is what the V2 Liquimax is. By far my favorite small clearo. I have some that have been in use for several months and are still going strong. Nano was junk. CE3 too much of a PITA to fill and they leak. The esmarts are nice but they don't last very long at all.

The eSmarts ARE nice and would be perfect for the 65 and 78s similar in the size of the nano but without the headaches. At least they can be cleaned, refilled many times and look great on them. I've had no leaking issues with them and they travel well too.

Can you post a pic of the T4? I'm not familiar with that one.
 
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They're top-coil slim clearos, JoAnn, kind of like the Nanos, 1ml capacity. I read that they have a tiny bit of filler in them too, like the Nanos. Just read a few reviews, and they seem to be favored over the Vision Nanos for performance - don't know how those compare to SI Nanos though.

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I think GotVapes sells them for 808s, if you're interested.
 
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I think GotVapes sells them for 808s, if you're interested.

You're right they do. I had heard that V2 had an exclusive deal with Kanger for the 808 version. If that was true, I guess it's over now. If I order anything else from GV, I think I'll throw in a T4 just to check it out.

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I'd like to see a small clearo that I can recommend to newbies. I didn't care for the Nano and I can't recommend CE3s that have to be filled with a syringe. Maybe a small top coil like the Kanger T4 or M3.

For myself, I'd like to see a T3S. It seems to work a lot better than the original T3 and the coils are a lot cheaper. Of course, I don't see myself using S.I. products full time again until they get some kind of battery charge level indicator in their X2s. I hate not having any idea how much charge is left in a battery.

J.R.

this is exactly what im looking for, a smal clearo for the 65/78mm volts. i dont need a RBA, i just want it not to leak and be easy to fill...
 

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This has been an interesting thread. There are a lot of good tips to be found. The problem with clearos the way I see it is that they all have quirks, and it all depends on the juice and how it is used.

I have learned that any juice thicker than 70/30 clogs up a T3 (volt version) causing a tight draw and gurgling issues. Taking out one of the flavor wicks fixes this, but causes leaking after a short time. Also, having too thin of a juice causes leaking either way, and wicking issues. I gave up with the standard T3. The T3 minis haven't been this way so far.

My first X2 clearo was great, and still is. Another I recently got has some serious wicking issues, since I get dry hits no matter how long I let the wicks soak. These are much better with thicker juices than the T3, due to longer wicks. There just needs to me more of them, since they still get gunked up way too quickly for my liking. (I am lazy and don't want to spend the time cleaning the durn thing with alcohol). Something akin to the mini vivi nova that would work with the X2 and spinner auto batts would be great. The vivi novas handle thicker juices, or any juice for that matter, with aplomb thanks to the crazy amount of wicks, and to the fact that they are dual coil. Using adaptors is a pain, and they don't work with the autos.

CE3 were great when they worked. After the first refill, they leaked like a sieve. As for the Nanos...poo.

I have tried a carto tank. What a PITA that was. In short, after an hour it flew across the room and I am sure a sailor somewhere was blushing at the string of expletives spewing from my mouth.

I have spent way too much time fiddling with clearos to get a good vape on my auto X2 and auto spinner. I do have a manual X2 that I do like, but like I said before, I am lazy; I prefer to not to push a button. And there is that issue with getting a good working clearo (for the long haul, with a decent ROI). Did I mention the ever-increasing need to be able check ohms on 808 stuff? Those ohm checker boxes are always out of stock and the mods are all 510 or EGO/510. (The multimeter is not a viable option for me, since I am not an electrician.)So....

I went the expensive route and picked up an Innokin iTaste VV V3 (small and sexy with the ability to check ohms..yay!) along with a Kanger ProTank mini (awesome, awesome, awesome) and mini vivi nova (also great). I also tried out a Kanger M3 (not bad, but a tad anemic in the vapor department) and a wickless CE4 (a bit of pain to get it going, but pretty good after a little learning curve). The EVOD is a good performer, but I have started to experience some wicking issues. I will fiddle with it at some point. I am still missing my auto X2 and spinner, though. Here's hoping that SI has some good clearos coming down the pipeline.

Whew! I don't know about you all, but I am exhausted! :p ;)
 
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The eSmarts are very similar to the T4 in appearance. Also eSmarts seem to hold slightly more juice... 1.3ml capacity not to mention they come 5 in a pack, slightly cheaper. I'm very pleased with them and they can be washed out too.

Thanks for posting the picture Cindy! ;)

They worked right out of the box but do not seem to last long at all. Even with cleaning.
 

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They're top-coil slim clearos, JoAnn, kind of like the Nanos, 1ml capacity. I read that they have a tiny bit of filler in them too, like the Nanos. Just read a few reviews, and they seem to be favored over the Vision Nanos for performance - don't know how those compare to SI Nanos though.

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I think GotVapes sells them for 808s, if you're interested.


Huge difference. My Liquimax clearos have been going for months. and you can get the T4 here as well

Kanger T4 808D-1 Clearomizer - Litecigusa.net
 

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Awesum, I don't think it's anything like filling the CE3s - looks like you just pop the mouthpiece off and start pouring. They probably suggest a syringe because it's so tiny. I would think a needle-tip bottle would do just fine.

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...and I don't know how cool it is to be posting a direct link to a vendor's competing product here. I was purposely trying to be vague and careful, not blatant about it, just out of respect. Imagine's really cool, but come on.
 
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They worked right out of the box but do not seem to last long at all. Even with cleaning.

So far I haven't had any problems with the eSmarts after cleaning and there doesn't seem to be any changes in performance. I don't use them on the large batteries, only on the 78s. I did try one on an X2 and it didn't perform as good but when I put it back on the smaller battery, it worked great.

I notice from reading the description for the T4 they suggest using a syringe for filling through one of two holes. I'm not a fan of syringe filling so I don't think I'll go with it.

Everyone has their favorites. ;)
 
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Gremlin, how do you fill the T4? I see they suggest using s syringe.

Pop the tip off, tilt and pour. Takes a little time with thicker liquids to pass around the wicks. Sometimes you will get an air bubble at the bottom too. Easily fixed with a straightened paper clip.

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Has anyone tried the t4 mini clearo?

I have 4 on the way, was looking at the esmarts too. Any opinions?

I have tried both, I like the T4s best although they hold only .9 mil. They just hit better for me and are cheap enough to be relatively disposable. For those asking about refilling, they may be the easiest clearo to refill...just tip and pour...no need for any needle point.

The E-smarts are more like a smaller CE4 holding 1.3 mil...in my opinion they don't hit as well as the T4 and are a little harder to fill. Still they are very usable...and the tip screws on...which might make them more pocket friendly...although I have never had a tip come off of either.
 

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I have tried both, I like the T4s best although they hold only .9 mil. They just hit better for me and are cheap enough to be relatively disposable. For those asking about refilling, they may be the easiest clearo to refill...just tip and pour...no need for any needle point.

The E-smarts are more like a smaller CE4 holding 1.3 mil...in my opinion they don't hit as well as the T4 and are a little harder to fill. Still they are very usable...and the tip screws on...which might make them more pocket friendly...although I have never had a tip come off of either.

Now that phrase is enough for me to add a couple of the T4s to my cart to try. :laugh:
 
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