Ego, Go-Go, Riva, Leo, iGo,Vgo, Kgo and Echo Comparisons
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If someone gets an echo and doesn't like a whistle tip the 801 drip tips will work. They are a little tight but they fit good.
I guess the downside of this auto battery is that you can't dry burn the coil??
Txtumbleweed...my daughter goes to college in Walla Walla at Whitman. Great town
Txtumbleweed...my daughter goes to college in Walla Walla at Whitman. Great town
I don't dry burn cartos but that would be the downside to an auto allright. These cartos are working excellent though and are supposed to last for 100 refills. That would be about 2 1/2 months for me. My first battery lasted about 13 hours out of the box so I'm not sure if it had a full charge. The pre-filled carto lasted 12 hours and I got almost a full 3 ml on the refill. I think these cartos are lasting a little longer than the Go-Gos because I don't need primer puffs with these. You can vape them just like you would puff on a cigarette.
Whitman is a great college and your daughter made a wise choice. I like Walla Walla too, I've been here just five years but it is a very nice quiet community.
I want to replace the juice in one of my pre-filled cartos. Would it be a mistake to do so, and possibly shorten the life of the carto? If not, what is the best way to remove the pre-fill juice? Maybe running hot tap water thru it? Boiling it?
No cutoff that is one of the things that makes them nice. You can take the tiniest puff and as huge as you want.
There was supposedly a cleaning method on cropdusters site but I didn't see it. I would just run hot tap water and spin it out if I was going to clean it but myself I would vape as much as I could and then simply refill with a different juice. That is what I did on mine. I vaped the tobacco all the way down and then refilled with the menthol I like and it worked fine. It took almost exactly 3 ml on the refill so I vaped almost all of the tobacco. When you refill make sure it is off the battery and bottom wiped off good and let it set for a bit and make sure any overflow drains out. The key is you don't want any juice down in the battery.
I believe someone in this thread mentioned this in passing, but I'd like confirmation. Is the Echo true 3.7V? That is, like the Riva SE and KGO (at least the one I got from Hoosier E-Cig Supply) and unlike the 3.2V eGo (and most fat batts).
Also, I'd be interested in comments about the taste from the Echo cartos, e.g., relative to eGo-T attys/tanks (which don't impress me) on the one hand ... and Smok Tech dual coil, Bloog MaxX Fusion, Leo, or Boge 2.0 cartos (all of which do impress me).
Bloog MaxX Fusion auto batts also are excellent (e.g., no primer puff or sound activation). The problem I (and others) have these days with automatic batteries is that (by necessity) they are unsealed. I've killed several Bloog and Leo (original unsealed version) batteries with juice dripping through the battery end hole of the cartos.
I love that! "An english bloke"! Scott Bonner (igetcha) is one of the two most prolific and famous video reviewers in vaping (along with GrimmGreen). [FYI: I would never tease a newbie about something like this. But, johnny, you ain't no newbie.
Who ya been watchin' during the past year? MoobyGhost reruns?]
Also, I'd be interested in comments about the taste from the Echo cartos, e.g., relative to eGo-T attys/tanks (which don't impress me) on the one hand ... and Smok Tech dual coil, Bloog MaxX Fusion, Leo, or Boge 2.0 cartos (all of which do impress me).
I think most will really like it after they get over their preconceived notions like me. All the old timers that used original autos were glad to get manual ones because they were easily turned on by loud noises, they had problems with juice leaking on them and ruining the battery and they would cutoff when you took a long drag, otherwise most people like not having to mess with a button switch also the buttons have been a source of some of the problems. If they all work like this one I don't see why everyone wouldn't prefer an auto. These just work much better than any auto I've ever used. Besides being more convenient it eliminates a source of trouble. It also depends on how consistent they are and you and cropduster have probably used one more than most of the U.S. users and you both say they are very consistent. I probably wouldn't have chose the auto if I would have had a choice because of previous experiences with them but after using this one for just a couple of hours I'm sure glad I got one.
Bloog MaxX Fusion auto batts also are excellent (e.g., no primer puff or sound activation). The problem I (and others) have these days with automatic batteries is that (by necessity) they are unsealed. I've killed several Bloog and Leo (original unsealed version) batteries with juice dripping through the battery end hole of the cartos.
I love that! "An english bloke"! Scott Bonner (igetcha) is one of the two most prolific and famous video reviewers in vaping (along with GrimmGreen). [FYI: I would never tease a newbie about something like this. But, johnny, you ain't no newbie.
Who ya been watchin' during the past year? MoobyGhost reruns?]
the ECHO is 4.2 unloaded. if you don't like the stock juice, you don't need to try and rinse it. just put it battery end down a paper towel and fill in about 2 ml of new juice, the original juice will just seep through the battery end, once this is done make sure and blow out excess the first two or three drags and it will change flavor after about six drags the old flavor is just a memory. and there is no cut off time on these auto's as far as I know and I haven't been able to get it to cut off by dragging on it till I was ready to turn blue!! And I hear you about killing auto batteries !! when I fill my echo carts I let them sit for a while. actually I only have to fill them before I go to bed , and they are not empty at that point . It has become a new routine for me (fill them before bed put a battery on charge and that will last me all day) i do tend to carry a different flavor to change it up once in a while, i love backwoods brew (honey flue nut) but i like to change it up once and a while. right now I am really liking perique blackberry from gourmet vapor so it is becoming my go to. You will also find out these carto's are pretty bullitproof so say if you rotate 5 flavors that is how many carts you would need to have. I have one at this point that has had 230 ml of 70/30 pg/vg liquid through it and it performs just like the first time I filled it up.. I have been trying to kill it so to speak . but alas it is just the energizer bunny ,
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As far as taste , i would have to compare it to direct dripping , I have compared it to my two favorite flavor atty's the 801 and the Leo , and I really cant taste the difference.. and like others have said (no primer puff ever is needed ) that still blows me away. it performs the same from first drag in the morning to last drag before bed, ( although I have never ran one dry and don't intend to)i feel this PV will be around a while and the performance of the auto batteries is outstanding, I have never had one go off on it's own ( and I am a bass player in a hard rock band) i put it on my bass rig at practice so I was thinking the vibration would trigger it and it didn't! and it was bouncing around on top of my bass stack. Impressive. I am really looking forward to getting the ECHO-E model ego compatable. It has a manual switch. and I would really like to see them do away with the LED on the end of the standard ECHO makes stealth vaping a little hard..
Any word on when the 510 Echo Carto will be available ? and is cropduster the only place carrying these or are there others too
I believe someone in this thread mentioned this in passing, but I'd like confirmation. Is the Echo true 3.7V? That is, like the Riva SE and KGO (at least the one I got from Hoosier E-Cig Supply) and unlike the 3.2V eGo (and most fat batts).
Also, I'd be interested in comments about the taste from the Echo cartos, e.g., relative to eGo-T attys/tanks (which don't impress me) on the one hand ... and Smok Tech dual coil, Bloog MaxX Fusion, Leo, or Boge 2.0 cartos (all of which do impress me).
Bloog MaxX Fusion auto batts also are excellent (e.g., no primer puff or sound activation). The problem I (and others) have these days with automatic batteries is that (by necessity) they are unsealed. I've killed several Bloog and Leo (original unsealed version) batteries with juice dripping through the battery end hole of the cartos.
I love that! "An english bloke"! Scott Bonner (igetcha) is one of the two most prolific and famous video reviewers in vaping (along with GrimmGreen). [FYI: I would never tease a newbie about something like this. But, johnny, you ain't no newbie.
Like Jonnybass said they are supposed to be 4.2 off the charger but I don't know how to check these auto batteries. I do believe they are 1100 mah batteries instead of 1300. These cartos are very similar to the Go-Go cartos and they just don't leak after they have been filled and set for a few minutes.
I saw on a site they are offering all 3 650 mAh 1100,1300 though, who all is retailing the Echo ?
I think they seem like the size of the 1100mah battery but I think this is due to the auto switch. I will know for certain in a little while I have both 1100 and 1300 on the way . and there will be other suppliers for the cartomizers, I am friends with anthony with cropduster901 , and am launching my new site shortly..
I use a syringe , and put it between the filler and the outside of the cart and do about 1 ml at a time. the other way i have done it is to drip and kinda roll the carto in my fingers at a little bit of an angle.. about ten drops at a time
They are basically very similar to the Go-Carts. I've only refilled one and used a syringe because I wanted to know exactly how much it would take on a refill. I got almost exactly 3 ml before it started to come out the bottom.
Thanks for the input - dripping is no issue as I have lot's of practice on the gogo - but for syringe, do you inject all 3 mills in the same spot or do you split the injection point into 2 or 3 different places?
I usually put 1 ml on each side and wait a few seconds and then slowly inject the last one or partial depending on how dry. Being as these autos are critical to not getting juice in the battery. I will probably not fill the next one quite as full but even if you fill it full until it drops out the bottom just leave it on a paper towell for a while and it will be alright.
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