Great - thanks for the information. Just for information, my non-labeled EMDCCs from SmokTek are still performing just like the originals from MadVapes. I think they are identical and may be the exact same product.
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Great - thanks for the information. Just for information, my non-labeled EMDCCs from SmokTek are still performing just like the originals from MadVapes. I think they are identical and may be the exact same product.
I'm back to using the EMDCC after trying a few other things. For my long commute nothing is better. I use 1.7ohm single coils at home. I just got 3 new EMDCC's from madvapes and the first one I filled is excellent. it performs slightly better than the first order i bought which still had the center post issues. These are set noticeably higher and fire on all my batts. I also bought one of the new LR smoktech ego batts mad vapes is selling. I'm very pleased. It wont fire the old EMDCC's, but works perfectly on the new ones. The emdcc's connect a little awkwardly to my kgo batts. Its a bit wobbly, and i find this makes the draw a bit too airy. The connection is perfect with the new cartos on this smoktech batt and airflow is just right for me. The kgo is def a bit hotter, but the smok batt hits much better than a joye ego.
Either the mofset isn't as sensitive to sudden surges or it has no mofset and is unregulated. They make mention that it is appropriate for low resistance cartos and attys. Hoogie has described what kills mofsets a couple of times in the madvapes forum... and, in fact, he's one of two people I've read talking about it on ECF that actually understands it. So, it's one of those two things.
I've ordered these from Madvapes on 2 occassions, and I'm about to order more. I've been using them as my all-day vape, with an atomizer and drip tip set up that I use to either taste test new flavors or to drip some higher nic juice than my normal. (I still get cravings for a cig sometimes, not often, and when I do, I drip juice with a higher nic content, and the problem goes away.)
I also made the mistake once of filling an EMDCC with juice I hadn't tried yet. Naturally, I hated that juice. So now, if I don't like it dripping in an atomizer, it doesn't earn a spot in the EMDCC.
While getting ready to order, I noticed they have a slightly new version. It's the clear tube kind they had before, but with the flat tip. Previously, the clear ones only came with the nipple tip, and flat tip seems more popular, so it makes sense. I tried a clear one once and just put a flat tip in it. I didn't like the clear one as much as the others. I think the filler was a bit tighter. I only used the one, which isn't much of a test.
I also noticed they are carrying a 5ml tank I hadn't seen before, with a 1.6 ohm Smok Tech dual coil cartomizer and drip tip, for 11.99.
Dual Coil 510 Tank Cartomizer
Has anyone tried those? I should probably look for a thread - but I won't, 'cause I'll trust that someone else will point me to it if there is one.
I also made the mistake once of filling an EMDCC with juice I hadn't tried yet. Naturally, I hated that juice. So now, if I don't like it dripping in an atomizer, it doesn't earn a spot in the EMDCC.
While getting ready to order, I noticed they have a slightly new version. It's the clear tube kind they had before, but with the flat tip. Previously, the clear ones only came with the nipple tip, and flat tip seems more popular, so it makes sense. I tried a clear one once and just put a flat tip in it. I didn't like the clear one as much as the others. I think the filler was a bit tighter. I only used the one, which isn't much of a test.
I also noticed they are carrying a 5ml tank I hadn't seen before, with a 1.6 ohm Smok Tech dual coil cartomizer and drip tip, for 11.99.
Dual Coil 510 Tank Cartomizer
Has anyone tried those? I should probably look for a thread - but I won't, 'cause I'll trust that someone else will point me to it if there is one.
Reading all this urban legend type talk about eGo batteries, I decided to autopsy 2 Joye 1000 mAh eGo-T batteries that failed on long term use of LR atomizers. It's not the MOSFET that failed. It's two surface mount low wattage resistors labeled R4 and R5. On the photos (disregard the mechanical damage from extracting the board) you can see they have burned up.
There is room on the board for bigger resistors, so they could design it beefier, but then other parts would likely fail instead. It's impractical trying to upgrade the parts yourself as the the extraction is quite traumatic for the assembly. The 13700 battery they use isn't meant to handle a lot more than 1.5 amps, or 2.2 ohms, anyway.
These integrated eGo batteries are pretty tough. They act reasonably OK for intermittent use with LR gear, but not for continuous vaping with burners under 2 Ohms. In order to be usable for chain vaping with 1.5-1.7 ohm cartos, the circuit would have to be changed, and (realistically, to prevent premature loss of capacity), a bigger battery, or a high drain type, used as well. The best way to delay burn-out is to limit the on-time, and let them cool down. In other words don't chain vape with LR cartos/attys on eGo type batteries, or you'll be ordering batteries with every carto shipment. That's an acceptable "cost of doin' vapin' " for some, and not for others.
With all these other eGo-like batteries available now, it's hard to say what's what, but I'd hazard a guess that any regulated 3.4 volt battery uses a similar circuit to be compatible with eGo chargers etc.
There is room on the board for bigger resistors, so they could design it beefier, but then other parts would likely fail instead. It's impractical trying to upgrade the parts yourself as the the extraction is quite traumatic for the assembly. The 13700 battery they use isn't meant to handle a lot more than 1.5 amps, or 2.2 ohms, anyway.
These integrated eGo batteries are pretty tough. They act reasonably OK for intermittent use with LR gear, but not for continuous vaping with burners under 2 Ohms. In order to be usable for chain vaping with 1.5-1.7 ohm cartos, the circuit would have to be changed, and (realistically, to prevent premature loss of capacity), a bigger battery, or a high drain type, used as well. The best way to delay burn-out is to limit the on-time, and let them cool down. In other words don't chain vape with LR cartos/attys on eGo type batteries, or you'll be ordering batteries with every carto shipment. That's an acceptable "cost of doin' vapin' " for some, and not for others.
With all these other eGo-like batteries available now, it's hard to say what's what, but I'd hazard a guess that any regulated 3.4 volt battery uses a similar circuit to be compatible with eGo chargers etc.
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I killed my first VZ EMDCC. It lasted about ten days. It was not producing vapor, so I decided I'd try to open the center air hole. That worked, then I decided I'd try to clear it some more. Killed it.
Ahh bummer you had it working then went for that little bit extra...lol. That's about my normal 10 days. I think that's pretty good for a three dollar carto
Replying to myself...
I found a thread about these tanks here and thought others might be interested.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/madvapes/234628-dual-coil-510-tank-cartomizer.html
I also noticed they are carrying a 5ml tank I hadn't seen before, with a 1.6 ohm Smok Tech dual coil cartomizer and drip tip, for 11.99.
Dual Coil 510 Tank Cartomizer
Has anyone tried those? I should probably look for a thread - but I won't, 'cause I'll trust that someone else will point me to it if there is one.
I found a thread about these tanks here and thought others might be interested.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/madvapes/234628-dual-coil-510-tank-cartomizer.html
Define your long term use?
I have been switching back and forth between the emdccs and a ego-t (b) lr on a 650mah ego-t.
Emdccs seem to be hit or miss for me. Thicker liquids end up lasting longer than thin. My biggest complaint is any time I try to recenter the hole, 75% of the time the things die. So long as they stay centered i've had a cart last me up to about 2.5 weeks, only died because I tried to recenter it and it didn't like me messing with it.
I use an 18 gauge syringe to refill, and at times it tends to push the filling over offsetting the hole.
Has anyone had any luck finding ways without the use of the old buttplugs to plug the bottom when filling?
Yep, that's what happened. Thought I could make it a bit better, LOL. Should have known better, as I've killed the Smok ones doing that.
I've gotten a few months out of eGo batteries using LR stuff intermittently. I think that's key. And let 'em cool off. As soon as I'd get into chain-vaping using one battery with anything under 2 Ohms, its days were numbered.
If I inject slowly along the sides, inject a little higher up, then another spot lower down, keep turning it, and hold the carto at a 45 degree angle, I don't get anything coming out the bottom air-hole.
Riddle me this then, is there a specific battery designed to handle the load?
Everything i've read so far further confuses me. From anything above 650mah being able to handle it without it's life being shortened to VV being able to... I know it can't be rocket science but man this can be difficult to understand.
I understand(I think) that 3.7v rated devices are actually 3.2-3.4, and 4.2(?)=3.7. But without getting into mods, I only really see 3.7v's @ under 3.4.
My specific device is an eGo-T PT 3.7 regulated at 3.2 and I want to avoid killing it, but also want to find something capable of handling LR chain vapes.
To avoid totally derailing, a kind of odd question;
Is it possible for the dual coils to operate if damage is done to one of the two coils?
Yes, at ~3.2Ω; a disappointing vape after the 1.6Ω dual coil resistance.
Saerjin, I'm using the same eGo batteries I bought almost 2 years ago, although I do use them in rotation. But still, I've only had 2 - 650mahs die in all that time. Maybe it's because I use them in rotation and only vape on one for a short time before changing flavors/batteries. I've used LRs on them since the LRs came out with no problem.
For me, the Go-go battery is performing excellent with all the mega dual coils (using an adapter). It runs between 4.38v to 4.2v from what I've read and seems to have more lasting power than even the eGo VV at 4.2v.
For me, the Go-go battery is performing excellent with all the mega dual coils (using an adapter). It runs between 4.38v to 4.2v from what I've read and seems to have more lasting power than even the eGo VV at 4.2v.
I don't have a Kgo so I can't answer that. The Go-go is a 1300mah battery but needs an adapter.
I have a Smok Teck dual coil eGo carto and I use it on a joye eGo 1000mAh battery... I like it just fine, been using it on and off for a few weeks ... but has anyone else noticed you have to let it warm up for a few seconds? I mean holding down the button for 3 or 4 secords before you start to hear the crackle / produce vapor?
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