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[THE]

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A 650 maH battery does NOT have a maximum drain rate of .65 A. Who told you that ?

It will easily put out several amps.

The 650 maH refers to the life of the battery. For example, drawing 650 ma continuously it will last 1 hour. Drawing twice that, or 1.3 A, CONTINUOSLY and it will last 1/2 hour.
Draw 2.6 A continuosly and it will last 15 minutes. Etc.

Each vape is only a few seconds, so it takes a lot of vapes to add up to 15 minutes.

My 650 maH eGo lasts about 12 hours on a 1.5 ohm atty with my vaping habits. And
drawing over 2 amps on each puff.

This guy, Drozd http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...5-one-atomizer-killed-my-ego-batteries-3.html

 

[THE]

You'd need to know the 'C' rating to calculate the maximum draw but considering an LR atty pulls twice as much current as regular 510s and I've been running LRs with EGO's for over four months tells me they're fine together. Physical problems with the EGO's hard plastic switch have been my biggest problem.

Interesting
I HAVE seen alot of people say that they've used Egos without a problem

 

[THE]

Well hell now I'm going to have to try one of the ego/riva things

Are the ego and riva pretty much the same?

 

[Drozd]

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A 650 maH battery does NOT have a maximum drain rate of .65 A. Who told you that ?

It will easily put out several amps.

The 650 maH refers to the life of the battery. For example, drawing 650 ma continuously it will last 1 hour. Drawing twice that, or 1.3 A, CONTINUOSLY and it will last 1/2 hour.
Draw 2.6 A continuosly and it will last 15 minutes. Etc.

Each vape is only a few seconds, so it takes a lot of vapes to add up to 15 minutes.

My 650 maH eGo lasts about 12 hours on a 1.5 ohm atty with my vaping habits. And
drawing over 2 amps on each puff.

I said it and I stick by it...max drain rate on a battery is the mAh times the C rating divided by 1000... we can assume the C rating on a stock generic lithium battery is 1C... so the max drain rate of the battery would be .65A

yeah the amp draw is of a 1.5Ω atty on a 3.2V battery is going to be 2.13A...being voltage divided by resistance...



so you get the battery being overstressed cutting it's overall life...
and there's only so much you can overstress it...certainly not enough to fully power a LR atty...so you get voltage sag from the battery until the max drain and the amp draw equal out

no way are you getting the full power of the atty each puff...I call poppycock

for this same reason it's why the same 1.5Ω atty running on a 16340 battery and that same atty running on a high drain 16340 battery will draw differently... the amp draw of that atty at 3.7V is 2.47A...the 16340 battery has a max drain of 1.5A (AW) or 1.32A (UF)...versus the 16340 high drain that has a max drain of 4.4A ......the high drain has a high enough max drain to support the LR atty at that voltage where the regular ones don't without experiencing voltage sag..

You'd need to know the 'C' rating to calculate the maximum draw but considering an LR atty pulls twice as much current as regular 510s and I've been running LRs with EGO's for over four months tells me they're fine together. Physical problems with the EGO's hard plastic switch have been my biggest problem.

unfortunately, both the math and the experience of other users contradict you...
the regular 510 atty overstresses the battery....the LR atties quite a bit more...it's cutting the service life of them by quite a bit...

in addition the experiments done by scottbee indicate that if the resistance of an atty drops below 1.4Ω it'll blow the mossfet in the eGo battery... so starting with a 1.5Ω LR atty where atties have a tolerance of +/- .3Ω to begin with...that's not a whole lot that atty can drop in the case of a short or whatever before blowing the battery..

it isn't to say people don't run them together...it's just calculated risk

 

[THE]

I don't want to offend anyone, but I believe that Drozd knows what he's talking about.. I can usually tell when people are ing and he doesn't sound like he is

 

[Drozd]

oh and for me...I like the cone I want the cone( I work heavy construction and beside the other things the cone does it also protects the atty to battery connection)....but I hate the damn one piece cone atties ... then there's the colors available with the eGo & mega eGos...so that makes the hello a complete non starter for me...
so my first choice is a mod...first an 18650...then one that'll run 14500 (high drains)... and then something like an eGo which I consider smallish and virtually disposeable when I'm out and something could happen to my ecig

 

[famous]

I have nothing against the hello, it was just too big. I got the eGo because it fits in my altoids case, runs LR attys perfectly, and I can vape on it all day at work on one battery, and most of the evening. I have an auto dripper for when i'm driving, a usb passthrough for my home computer, and a plug in mod and 18650 mod for my easy chair. It's all about filling a need, and the ego does a nice job.

The cone actually affects the draw quite a bit. It's a more airy draw without it, and the vapor is much cooler. The cone really cuts down on gurgly noises and the sound of air, and the drag is much like pulling on a cigarette.

what's an auto dripper? it sounds interesting.

 

[guitarman023]

what's an auto dripper? it sounds interesting.

Mine is basically a plastic tube that runs from a bottle to the bottom of my atomizer and I squeeze the bottle to add juice. it's great for driving because when I run low on juice, I just squeeze it to add more. The modders forum has a lot of info on them.

Here's a link to one that can be built for less than 10 bucks.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/95728-tutorial-juicebox-around-8-a.html

 

[_TJ_]

Wow, I completely forgot about drain rates on batteries and amp draws on atomizers, good work on reminding me.
Time to go check my 14500s. Then go buy some AW high drains.

 

[DaveP]

The cone on the Ego was initially designed to draw air past the atomizer, heating the air before it hits the coil. That improves the efficiency of the atomizer and produces slightly more vapor and taste. I know that my juices have a fuller taste in the Ego than in the 510.

I read a lot of posts on the Hello 016 when it first came out and people were having problems with battery life. That turned out to be a charger problem and the vendors swapped out the chargers when the good ones came in. That's one of the reasons that I bought the Ego. I was leery of the battery issues and that problem had not been fixed at the time.

Once I got the Ego I started getting all day vapes from one battery and I looked no further. That, coupled with the proven 510 atty has assured me that I made a good choice. I do wish that the switch on the 510 and the Ego was a little more pocket proof. I have had to reach for both quickly when I started feeling my pocket heat up! I find myself sitting and feeling for the switch to make sure that it isn't under pressure while it's in my pocket.