eGo, vGo, Tornado, Inferno..... Uh Oh :P

[DaveP]

The sweet spot for me is an Ego 650mah battery and a Joye Mega cylinder type B atty. I still get long life from the battery and the larger atty produces increased taste and vapor. The cart holds enough juice (2.5ml) to get through an afternoon of rather heavy vaping. I always carry a bottle of juice, but seldom have to use it unless I'm gone all day.

LR attys produce great taste also, but not that different from the Mega cylinder. I try not to use the LR atty that much anyway after reading about the mosfet failures in Ego batteries due to the heavy current draw of the LR atty.

 

[Goldenkobold]

Deback is anti-volcano they could put out a supermini with ego battery life and he would probably still be knocking it.
But that's ok we all have our preference, but to accuse those of us who live in the continental US of being employees of a hawaii based outfit it more than a little humorous. I often wonder if he works for litecig so I guess its understandable

I think the volcano inferno is one of the more versatile kits out there as you get one 1000 mah and one 650 usb batt mod. You should seriously never run out of power as even if you somehow manage to drain both units you can charge while you vape the 650 mah.

They use any 510 atty as they are standard threads so anything you own that is 510 will transfer over, the magma atty itself (the one sold by volcano) is slightly larger than a normal 510 on the end where you insert the carts (I am talking very very slightly) so that other carts sometimes sit less than perfect in them (they have a bit of wobble) that being said I only use it for dripping or with cartomizers so it does not effect me at all. All I would add to a volcano inferno order would be a drip tip as I think that should be included in the kit as dripping on a fat batt is the way to go.

The inferno also has the o-ring atomizer cone as opposed to threads which means no leakage and easier removal.

I think the T-rex looks pretty cool as well, I may order one of those soon as a back up. We have a local store that sells eGo's so I have had hands on experience with them and honestly I was not impressed.

 

[deback]

Since Goldenkobold thinks I'm pushing eGos (yes, I have, but I'm in the majority for a good reason, because of the better quality of the eGo batteries) and thinks I might work for litecigusa.net (I don't, they're just one of the best suppliers, and I'm a self-employed tax preparer/accountant), here's why I would stay away from Volcano products. Just posted this on another thread and this is a good place to post it again.

I bought a Volcano kit, because I needed another battery to use while waiting for the only other battery I had to charge (every 2 hours, I had to wait 1½ hours for it to charge -- that was the battery that came with the first starter kit I bought from Smokeless Delite--avoid this company!) The owner charged me $85 (with tax) for that Volcano kit and he only included: 1 battery, 1 PCC, 1 atomizer, 1 box of 5 carts, 1 wall adapter, and 1 USB charger cable. When I got home, I went to volcanoecigs.com and found that he charged me $80 for the kit that Volcano sells online for $50 (and I didn't receive the gift box). I believe he probably sold me a battery that had been used in the store for display purposes, but don't know for sure. That battery lasted for 45 minutes originally and took 30 to 45 minutes to recharge. About a week later, the battery lasted for about 30 minutes, then a couple days later 20 minutes, and a couple days later 10 minutes, so I quit using it.

The next day, I went back to the store, told him about the price difference, so he gave me another battery and 4 more boxes of 5 carts. He said that that battery was the only one he had left and had been used as a store display. So then I had the kit that Volcano sells online for $70 (without the gift box and the USB "stick" charger). I was still out $10, but I didn't mention this to him. The 2nd battery he gave me never worked right. It will blink 20 times at times but keeps working and never had enough power to get throat hits. I quit using the entire kit soon after getting the 2nd battery, so I only used it for a week or 10 days (then I received two eGo 1000mAh batteries from Cignot.com).

The PCC doesn't have a green light to let you know when it's done charging. It uses 4 bars, which usually shows 4 bars and takes a while to go down to 2 or 3 bars after it's plugged in, so I never knew when it was fully charged, and it was inconvenient to screw in a battery (hard to get fingers in there to turn the battery). I don't remember if there was any indication when a battery was fully charged using the PCC, because I really don't care anymore.

I went back a day later and bought his only bottle of juice (10 ml of Menthol for $13), because I needed some juice to really get started, hated menthol, but I ended up having some expensive juice to get started (still have 1/2 bottle left that I'll never use). I still didn't mention the price difference to him, and I haven't been back to that store. I don't want to deal with him anymore (he was a nice guy, just doesn't realize he's selling crap, or maybe he does realize it, I don't know).

I've considered calling my credit card company to charge back the purchase price or sending him an email to tell him of my experience with his products, but I've decided to just forget it and move on (except to alert new users about this company). I bought the kit on 09/16, so it's probably too late now to do anything about it, anyway. I've chalked it up to a learning experience.

I still can't believe I spent another $95 at the Volcano web site soon after buying the kit and bought 3 passthroughs, 5 atomizers (will never use), and 3 bottles of juice (used some of that). All three passthroughs became defective (really cheap quality, and it wasn't my fault that they never worked very well). I returned them all a month ago today, and am still waiting to receive two replacements. They sent me one replacement (received a month ago today), and I've received no responses to my three emails to Volcano in the last month. The replacement passthrough I received is better quality than the first three PTs, but the cable is stiff and isn't centered where it connects to the passthrough, so it's a pita to use (have to keep turning the PT to push the button).

Bottom line: Volcano products are cheap quality. I learned to never buy any more of their products. That's why I wouldn't trust the new Inferno due to the lousy quality of their other products and the lousy customer service.

 

[bubbajoe72]

FreakyStylie, if you want to support US manufacturers, unfortunately you're going to have to get a battery mod since all eGos, Vgos, Rivas, etc are pretty much all made in China. And because they are all made in China, you're gonna get praises and horror stories for every one of these types of batteries. And if you do get a battery mod, you may still run into manufacturing issues and the possibility of the battery blowing up in your face. Such are the risks we take to get off analogs

Deback, if you truly have such bad customer service at Volcano, post up on the Volcano forums. Those that can actually do something about your issues are more likely to see your problems on the Volcano forums rather than here.

And no, I'm not a Volcano employee nor do I play one on TV.

 

[TL1000RSquid]

Wow. I'm glad I've gotten some more information. I've asked a few times about them and have gotten nothing but good reviews. I've read quite a few posts saying good things about them. I guess it's all in which posts you read. Maybe I should start spending a little more time in the reviews sections.

That makes me sad. I know they aren't manufacturing them there, but I still like to support the US when I can. I'd buy more local if I could just because local money helps the local economy.

Might want to consider these RoughStack not to much more then a Joye Ego kit, made in the US and you can replace the battery instead of tossing it in the trash when it dies like the egos and clones.

 

[FreakyStylie]

Might want to consider these RoughStack not to much more then a Joye Ego kit, made in the US and you can replace the battery instead of tossing it in the trash when it dies like the egos and clones.

Yeah, I'm shopping for what I want now. I've got a 5v pt on my next order so I can see if I want to go above 3.7v.

As far as supporting the US, I'm looking at intro kits for friends. I would love to have a supplier in Oregon to support. Like I said, I know they aren't manufactured here, but the cash still goes through the vendor, and would like to boost the economy. Every dollar kept here, helps, here. As it stands, I am only spurring attention to the standard 510. People around me still look at my eGo with a cocked eye.

We should have a stockpile area to send dead eGos. Battery technology is improving. Wouldn't it be pretty easy to mod a new batt into used goods? IDK I think if we could keep used cases to donate to new vapers, it could cut the export of our dollars.

 

[TL1000RSquid]

Yeah, I'm shopping for what I want now. I've got a 5v pt on my next order so I can see if I want to go above 3.7v.

As far as supporting the US, I'm looking at intro kits for friends. I would love to have a supplier in Oregon to support. Like I said, I know they aren't manufactured here, but the cash still goes through the vendor, and would like to boost the economy. Every dollar kept here, helps, here. As it stands, I am only spurring attention to the standard 510. People around me still look at my eGo with a cocked eye.

We should have a stockpile area to send dead eGos. Battery technology is improving. Wouldn't it be pretty easy to mod a new batt into used goods? IDK I think if we could keep used cases to donate to new vapers, it could cut the export of our dollars.

If your looking to buy several kits at once to introduce to smoker friends it will be hard to find a US supplier that can come close to the deals you'll get from China($92.50 for 3 VGO kits each includes 2 1300mah batteries, 5 CE2 cartos, charger)
I haven't killed an ego yet to have the chance to cut it open myself, my understanding is they make next to impossible to put a new battery inside though, plus what $7 + $5 shipping for a new battery with coupon code you get a brand new ego from MFS for $11.xx + shipping.
I like my ego's but I have 3 joyes and 2 vgo's now I won't be buying anymore my next purchase will be a mod possibly the maxxi rough stack or the provariable depending how much I decide to spend lol

 

[deback]

Yeah, I'm shopping for what I want now. I've got a 5v pt on my next order so I can see if I want to go above 3.7v.

As far as supporting the US, I'm looking at intro kits for friends. I would love to have a supplier in Oregon to support. Like I said, I know they aren't manufactured here, but the cash still goes through the vendor, and would like to boost the economy. Every dollar kept here, helps, here. As it stands, I am only spurring attention to the standard 510. People around me still look at my eGo with a cocked eye.

We should have a stockpile area to send dead eGos. Battery technology is improving. Wouldn't it be pretty easy to mod a new batt into used goods? IDK I think if we could keep used cases to donate to new vapers, it could cut the export of our dollars.

Liberty Flights has a bunch of eGo 650mAh kits in stock today for $51.96 plus shipping of $2.99. That's after using the 20% discount code of ECF.

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Joye eGo

Shan is looking for free dead eGo batteries. She posted a want ad in the following thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hings-batts-atties-connectors-enclosures.html

 

[Goldenkobold]

Deback it sounds like you got hossed from "some dude selling ecigs" I do not know how the show room battery he gave you relates to volcano products in general as no one, including you, has any idea how often that thing was used/abused. I am not advocating volcano super mini's, but the magma is a 510 just like any other and the inferno is a fat batt just like any other, if the price is right and the warranty is good go for it.

If you can find some other cheaper product go for that, just be aware that you are not always getting the same thing from every site. With the inferno you get a 1000mah and a 650mah usb passthrough warrantied for a year, there IS a difference between that and two 650mah's that are only warrantied for two months. If the price is within a few bucks I would say go for the 650 usb and 1000 mah over two 650mah.

Honestly you say liberty flights has a 55 dollar dual 650 kit for sale...well that is the exact same price as the inferno kit which gives you much better battery options and a year warranty at the cost of 5 prefilled carts.

I am not a volcano employee or a volcano only user but you keep talking about "the vast majority" well using this thread as a guide the vast majority of Inferno users are happy with the product.

 

[FreakyStylie]

If your looking to buy several kits at once to introduce to smoker friends it will be hard to find a US supplier that can come close to the deals you'll get from China($92.50 for 3 VGO kits each includes 2 1300mah batteries, 5 CE2 cartos, charger)
I haven't killed an ego yet to have the chance to cut it open myself, my understanding is they make next to impossible to put a new battery inside though, plus what $7 + $5 shipping for a new battery with coupon code you get a brand new ego from MFS for $11.xx + shipping.
I like my ego's but I have 3 joyes and 2 vgo's now I won't be buying anymore my next purchase will be a mod possibly the maxxi rough stack or the provariable depending how much I decide to spend lol

Sometimes a good deal from China can keep even more dollars here too. I'm only familiar with HC, HG, and EM. Where is that deal at?

Liberty Flights has a bunch of eGo 650mAh kits in stock today for $51.96 plus shipping of $2.99. That's after using the 20% discount code of ECF.

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Joye eGo

Shan is looking for free dead eGo batteries. She posted a want ad in the following thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hings-batts-atties-connectors-enclosures.html

Thanks for the tip about Shan! I've yet to venture into the classifieds yet. I hope everybody keeps them out of the landfills one way or another!

 

[TL1000RSquid]

Sometimes a good deal from China can keep even more dollars here too. I'm only familiar with HC, HG, and EM. Where is that deal at?

E-liquid Web Shop CN They have 10 510 starter kits for $100 on the front page now too, So far I've only ordered from them once, split an order with a friend we did the VGO kits, 100 CE2 cartomizers and he got a couple hundred ML of juice too.

 

[FreakyStylie]

E-liquid Web Shop CN They have 10 510 starter kits for $100 on the front page now too, So far I've only ordered from them once, split an order with a friend we did the VGO kits, 100 CE2 cartomizers and he got a couple hundred ML of juice too.

Thanks! I haven't seen them yet.

 

[deback]

Deback it sounds like you got hossed from "some dude selling ecigs" I do not know how the show room battery he gave you relates to volcano products in general as no one, including you, has any idea how often that thing was used/abused. I am not advocating volcano super mini's, but the magma is a 510 just like any other and the inferno is a fat batt just like any other, if the price is right and the warranty is good go for it.

If you can find some other cheaper product go for that, just be aware that you are not always getting the same thing from every site. With the inferno you get a 1000mah and a 650mah usb passthrough warrantied for a year, there IS a difference between that and two 650mah's that are only warrantied for two months. If the price is within a few bucks I would say go for the 650 usb and 1000 mah over two 650mah.

Honestly you say liberty flights has a 55 dollar dual 650 kit for sale...well that is the exact same price as the inferno kit which gives you much better battery options and a year warranty at the cost of 5 prefilled carts.

I am not a volcano employee or a volcano only user but you keep talking about "the vast majority" well using this thread as a guide the vast majority of Inferno users are happy with the product.

I've had more problems with the customer service at volcanoecigs.com than I had with the store owner, since I didn't try to return any of the products I bought from the store, but I did return 3 passthroughs to Volcano a month ago, and I haven't received the two replacements yet, and they haven't responded to my three emails. I only told the entire story of why I even got involved with Volcano in the first place -- because I happened to buy a kit from a store in Lansing, he had the Volcano products, and that's why I ended up going to the Volcano site and bought more products (when I was new at all of this) -- it was after that that I discovered most of the Volcano products I had bought were total crap.

Ya see, I don't want a cheaper product. Money is not the issue for me. Quality is the issue for me. ALL of the Volcano products I've bought two months ago turned out to be crap. Why would I want to buy more Volcano products? Seriously, would you? And since they haven't responded to my three emails and haven't sent me the two replacement passthroughs yet, what the heck good is their warranty? If they're not honoring their warranty on the passthroughs I bought, why would they honor a year's warranty? How can I believe that they would honor any warranty when I can no longer trust that company due to their failure to send me the two replacements and respond to my emails? Why should I have to call them on the phone, when I've done my part by sending three emails and returning the three defective passthroughs with a completed RMA form?

I've bought six genuine Joyetech eGo batteries and two Bauway eGo batteries (which I regret). They all work great. The price for each of them was cheaper than I would expect for the higher quality. I don't need a 650mAh eGo battery. I like the 900s and 1000s better. They last for several more hours than the 650mAh eGos before needing to be recharged.

I don't need another passthrough. I already have 7 passthroughs (well, I have 5 currently and am still waiting for two replacements) that don't have the PITA inline batteries (it's really a lot easier, with much less hassle, to use the fast charger and not have to use a USB cable to charge the battery). I'll rarely be using the passthroughs, since I like the eGos so well, can charge the eGos in 3 hours and have enough of them so that I'll always have one to use -- with no USB cables to hassle with.

I've only been mentioning Liberty Flights lately, because a lot of users have been waiting for them to have more Rivas in stock (because they want the eGo type of batteries, but want to pay less). Personally, I would never buy a Riva (or any other generic/knockoff eGo) and will only buy genuine Joyetech eGo batteries. I do believe the Hello Riva batteries are probably better quality than the Volcano Inferno batteries, solely based on the super cheap quality of all the other Volcano products I've bought.

Sure, there will always be users who have bought generic products and are happy with their products. Many of them haven't tried the better-quality products, though. That's fine with me. I don't really care, as long as they're happy. But, since I'm here only to pass the time before tax season starts, I want to help people buy the right products the first time, instead of wasting money on the inferior, low-quality products, like I did. (I also bought a super-cheap starter kit and other parts from another proprietary company called Smokeless Delite, back when I was new to vaping and didn't know any better. This is also a company to avoid at all costs.)

There are only a handful (or less) users here so far who have been pushing the Inferno (most of them just joined recently) and a few others who have posted that they own one and are happy -- as compared to all the rest of the posters who post recommendations for the genuine Joye eGo (based on their experience with eGos) or new buyers who chose to buy genuine eGo batteries and end up loving them.

That's all I have to say. Hope this helps you understand.

 

[brian5470]

Here is another negative of the VGO/Inferno. I was told you can not use the EGO mega atty's and mega cato's if you so wish because the VGO/inferno doesn't have the outside threads for the cone so that takes away some of your options and i like to try new stuff from time to time..lol I would suggest and EGO or Riva from Liberty-Flights I have both and they both are great the Riva actually has a better button to me but I love the feel of the Ego rubbery finish. Liberty-Flights warrants Ego batteries for 6 months and Riva's for 3 months. They don't currently have Riva's in stock but if you wait you can get one for $29.99.

 

[deback]

Thanks for the tip about Shan! I've yet to venture into the classifieds yet.

That was my first time in the classifieds, I think, but I noticed that Shan hasn't been posting in the New Members area in the last few days, so I checked her recent posts under my Friends' page and found her over at the Classifieds. She's busy building batteries, passthroughs, and modding all kinds of stuff.

Amazing! My biggest mod was slipping a part of one of those grips from an old pen onto a couple of passthroughs, so they would stay on my desk better, instead of sliding onto the floor all the time.

 

[deback]

Here is another negative of the VGO/Inferno. I was told you can not use the EGO mega atty's and mega cato's if you so wish because the VGO/inferno doesn't have the outside threads for the cone so that takes away some of your options and i like to try new stuff from time to time..lol I would suggest and EGO or Riva from Liberty-Flights I have both and they both are great the Riva actually has a better button to me but I love the feel of the Ego rubbery finish. Liberty-Flights warrants Ego batteries for 6 months and Riva's for 3 months. They don't currently have Riva's in stock but if you wait you can get one for $29.99.

That's good to know and is common when dealing with proprietary products.

 

[whiskey]

Deback is anti-volcano they could put out a supermini with ego battery life and he would probably still be knocking it.
But that's ok we all have our preference, but to accuse those of us who live in the continental US of being employees of a hawaii based outfit it more than a little humorous. I often wonder if he works for litecig so I guess its understandable

I think the volcano inferno is one of the more versatile kits out there as you get one 1000 mah and one 650 usb batt mod. You should seriously never run out of power as even if you somehow manage to drain both units you can charge while you vape the 650 mah.

They use any 510 atty as they are standard threads so anything you own that is 510 will transfer over, the magma atty itself (the one sold by volcano) is slightly larger than a normal 510 on the end where you insert the carts (I am talking very very slightly) so that other carts sometimes sit less than perfect in them (they have a bit of wobble) that being said I only use it for dripping or with cartomizers so it does not effect me at all. All I would add to a volcano inferno order would be a drip tip as I think that should be included in the kit as dripping on a fat batt is the way to go.

The inferno also has the o-ring atomizer cone as opposed to threads which means no leakage and easier removal.

I think the T-rex looks pretty cool as well, I may order one of those soon as a back up. We have a local store that sells eGo's so I have had hands on experience with them and honestly I was not impressed.

Nice post Golden..I like my Inferno for the same reasons...everyone is different in what they like!!

 

[Benji]

I think the T-rex looks pretty cool as well, I may order one of those soon as a back up. We have a local store that sells eGo's so I have had hands on experience with them and honestly I was not impressed.

I just checked out the T-rex and I do like the look of them. I'm noticing that lots of people have different experiences with many models so this is going to be a difficult decision.

I've tried many methods to quit smoking but my problem was that I still enjoyed it, but I still wanted to be healthier. Ever since I started vaping a month ago I definitely consider this my new lifestyle.

That being said, I'm jumping into this with both feet I've had the 808 & 510 for a month and I'm ready to upgrade to something that has a constantly good vapour/throat hit. I think that my next eGo style upgrade will be just personal preference on design and hope that I get a solid model/vendor.

I'm contemplating getting rid of the 510 & using the eGo style on the go. Then at home upgrading right to a GG or some other mod that gives me a constant feed

 

[ccjones]

I keep thinking I need to try something different - am using eGo. Thanks for this thread - VERY informative, and helps me decide I don't need to spend more money - I am vaping the best. My husband (the keeper of the checking account) thanks you.

 

[Goldenkobold]

Benji you can honestly put together a few a la cart orders for not much more than an entire kit
you can go to liberty flights and order a front charge usb EGO bat (25 bucks)
and then volcano and do the same thing (I think it is like 24 bucks with cone)
and all the equipment works for both (if you already have enough 510 attys its even cheaper if not pick up one from either or both vendors)

if you stick to front charge usb style you may even already have a mini usb cable to charge it and not need to purchase an extra cable...I had 6 laying around two of them wall phone chargers from Motorola phones I use to own. You will not get the "presentation case" a box with foam inserts basically but if you are already familiar with 510's then you will know what else you need to get (drip tips, cartomizers, whatever floats your boat)

As someone mentioned the only difference is the way the cone attaches some use an oring some use a screw on cone, I prefer the o-ring as I take my cone off and on all day to change attys when I change flavors, some prefer the screw on.